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  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

    True, but the Google Desktop allows you to add ActiveX controls as well. So if you create some ActiveX that you need hosted, you can count on Google to host it for you.


    There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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    Matt Newman
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    Hold up.... I thought ActiveX was bad? In fact I seem to remember its absence was, at least one time, a selling point for FF... which Google is putting alot of weight behind. Maybe they finally figured out it was never ActiveX that was the problem Matt Newman
    Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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      I know we have a problem with obesity in the US but corporations have not started using that as a weapon... yet. :) Obesity problem in America. 1 out of every 3 Americans weighs as much as the other two. :laugh:

      "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
      Christian Graus in the C# forum

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      Rick York
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      Great one Mike. Another for the fortunes list. ;)

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      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

        True, but the Google Desktop allows you to add ActiveX controls as well. So if you create some ActiveX that you need hosted, you can count on Google to host it for you.


        There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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        Rick York
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        Thanks for the warning.

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        • C code frog 0

          So does each piece of the google dashboard require 5Kb per running instance like Konfabulator/Yahoo/Etc... I suppose it would be cool if they didn't all copy each other. Then once that was cool they really need to make the memory footprint just a tad smaller. With all the crap people are adding to "desktops" we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything... I think ... perhaps I'd like just a desktop search tool that *really* worked. Occupied the 2Kb of memory it really should and used less than 1% of a P-500 processor. But given the script kiddies coming out of dumbed down marketing programs that got the drop outs from the computer science programs I'm probably asking for too much...:sigh:


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          People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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          Stuart Dootson
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          code-frog wrote:

          5Kb

          More like 5MB if Dashboard on my iBook is anything to go by....

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          • M Matt Newman

            I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
            Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006

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            Don Miguel
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            Matt Newman wrote:

            Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets?

            Hei mate! Everyone need gadgets!! :laugh::laugh::laugh: Leaving the jokes away, you opinions expressed exactly my thoughts.

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            • L led mike

              Gadgets to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here i am stuck in the middle with you. Does it have a left handed bolt stretcher? ;P

              "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
              Christian Graus in the C# forum

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              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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              :laugh::laugh::laugh: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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              • M Matt Newman

                I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
                Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006

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                Marc Clifton
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                Matt Newman wrote:

                I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience...

                I like the calendar. Especially the "map" button next to "where". I also have a stock and news gadget running, and use the scratchpad constantly. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                • M Matt Newman

                  I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
                  Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006

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                  You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you? :) Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                  • M Matt Newman

                    Hold up.... I thought ActiveX was bad? In fact I seem to remember its absence was, at least one time, a selling point for FF... which Google is putting alot of weight behind. Maybe they finally figured out it was never ActiveX that was the problem Matt Newman
                    Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    From a website perspective, it could be very bad. But from an application perspective, there's no difference between using ActiveX or writing the code into your application, except that ActiveX is very modular, so instead of creating different hosts for your controls, you could allow Google to display them. This is useful if you wish to use it for personal use. Then again, the widgets that Google, Yahoo and everybody else are using could also be very damaging if you design them to be.


                    There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                    • L led mike

                      Gadgets to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here i am stuck in the middle with you. Does it have a left handed bolt stretcher? ;P

                      "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                      Christian Graus in the C# forum

                      led mike

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                      Paul Watson
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                      :laugh: Brilliant. And I love that song. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Matt Newman wrote:

                        I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience...

                        I like the calendar. Especially the "map" button next to "where". I also have a stock and news gadget running, and use the scratchpad constantly. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                        Paul Watson
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                        Seems like a lot of overhead for a calendar, news and stock ticker and a scratchpad (though I am really glad to see they have made the scratchpad save online so it works from any computer.) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

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                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                          Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

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                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                            Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits.

                            That's interesting. Sooo.... with JavaScript et al, I can see easily writing cross-platform gadgets. But with EXE's and COM, it seems rather platform specific. And security issues. Oh my. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits.

                              That's interesting. Sooo.... with JavaScript et al, I can see easily writing cross-platform gadgets. But with EXE's and COM, it seems rather platform specific. And security issues. Oh my. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                              Paul Watson
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                              Microsoft Gadgets to a large degree work on the desktop or in a web-page with the same code. Something that I really liked. So you can have a Microsoft Gadget in your Vista sidebar and then that same Gadget in your Windows Live start web-page. Not sure this still works with Google Desktop but you can load any ActiveX control into the sidebar. Sometimes it falls over and dies as the control wasn't designed to be used that way but sometimes you get some cool functionality with existing code. I think there are merits to both systems. I'd like to see GD allowing a simpler JS/HTML/CSS model for simple gadgets while retaining the ability to load COM gadgets. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                              Shog9 wrote:

                              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                              • B Brigg Thorp

                                You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you? :) Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                                Paddy Boyd
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                                You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you?

                                Wonder if you could combine that with the Tetris...

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                                • P Paul Watson

                                  Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                  Ed Poore
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                                  Why not write your own gadget to do exactly this. Create more gadgets... :rolleyes:


                                  You know you're a Land Rover owner when the best route from point A to point B is through the mud. Ed

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                                  • E Ed Poore

                                    Why not write your own gadget to do exactly this. Create more gadgets... :rolleyes:


                                    You know you're a Land Rover owner when the best route from point A to point B is through the mud. Ed

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                                    led mike
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                                    Yes! A Gadget that makes Gadgets... the Gadget Gadget. ohhh.... that made me dizzy dizzy.

                                    "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                                    Christian Graus in the C# forum

                                    led mike

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                                    • R Roger Wright

                                      I read headlines daily about Microsoft taking on Google, and I have to laugh; they're not even in the same ballpark. Microsoft is clueless when it comes to search technology. MSN, TechNet, MSDN - all fall far short of acceptable. Even Lycos is better at finding content on a Microsoft site than any of Microsoft's search tools, and Google is way beyond that level. Get a grip, Bill - you don't have to dominate everything to be supremely successful! Search isn't your forte; stick to what you do best, and do it better than anyone else. Windows still could use some work, and your developer tools have a lot of room for improvement. No one does them better, but you still can make improvements. Devote your vast resources to things you're good at, and don't squander them on things that you can't hope to master in time to recoup your investment. Leave searching to those who are good at it, and focus on your strengths. Let Google dominate this tiny field of endeavor, and license their technology for your internal use. We'll all be much happier that way. Sorry to hijack your thread for my pontificating, Marc. In case you didn't notice, though, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.:-D "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                                      mitchell50
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                                      If only Bill was listening. I'm expecting one day to see a Microsoft refrigerator. It will keep meats cold but milk will spoil. You'll have to reboot it to get ice cubes, but then the spoiled milk will freeze. The first few versions will have GAC leaks in the crisper. I haven't found better development tools than Microsoft's. Windows is OK. Linux is OK. I'm OK, you're OK. OK?;P

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                                      • L led mike

                                        Yes! A Gadget that makes Gadgets... the Gadget Gadget. ohhh.... that made me dizzy dizzy.

                                        "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                                        Christian Graus in the C# forum

                                        led mike

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                                        Ed Poore
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                                        For added dizziness we need a recursive name like GNU's Not Unix. :rolleyes:


                                        You know you're a Land Rover owner when the best route from point A to point B is through the mud. Ed

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                                        • M mitchell50

                                          If only Bill was listening. I'm expecting one day to see a Microsoft refrigerator. It will keep meats cold but milk will spoil. You'll have to reboot it to get ice cubes, but then the spoiled milk will freeze. The first few versions will have GAC leaks in the crisper. I haven't found better development tools than Microsoft's. Windows is OK. Linux is OK. I'm OK, you're OK. OK?;P

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                                          Farrukh_5
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                                          ok == not ok man we in the world of information technology and if only one geek holds the keys to information (let's say google only) then prepair for the world war 4 (why WW4 bcos WW3 is already underway by America now a days) --------------------------- http://www.idlsol.com

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