Wow
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This whole gadget thing is really taking off right now. Google Gadgets is competing with Windows Vista's upcoming Gadgets. Vista Gadgets is competing with Apple's Dashboard[^]. Apple's Dashboard was a rip off of Konfabulator which was bought by Yahoo last year and renamed to Yahoo! Widgets[^]. Plus, all of the above apps allow you to create your own gadgets/widgets via JavaScript. Sooooo... please excuse me while I'm not too impressed. Google isn't doing anything new here. They're just jumping into the whole widget fad.
True, but the Google Desktop allows you to add ActiveX controls as well. So if you create some ActiveX that you need hosted, you can count on Google to host it for you.
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So does each piece of the google dashboard require 5Kb per running instance like Konfabulator/Yahoo/Etc... I suppose it would be cool if they didn't all copy each other. Then once that was cool they really need to make the memory footprint just a tad smaller. With all the crap people are adding to "desktops" we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything... I think ... perhaps I'd like just a desktop search tool that *really* worked. Occupied the 2Kb of memory it really should and used less than 1% of a P-500 processor. But given the script kiddies coming out of dumbed down marketing programs that got the drop outs from the computer science programs I'm probably asking for too much...:sigh:
The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)
code-frog wrote:
we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything...
:omg: That's one hell of a machine!
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
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code-frog wrote:
we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything...
:omg: That's one hell of a machine!
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
Oh? You like? I'll be shipping in 3rd quarter 2006. Take your time placing orders. I have a warehouse full and no buyers. But then... they haven't released Vista yet either. :laugh:
The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)
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True, but the Google Desktop allows you to add ActiveX controls as well. So if you create some ActiveX that you need hosted, you can count on Google to host it for you.
There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math
Hold up.... I thought ActiveX was bad? In fact I seem to remember its absence was, at least one time, a selling point for FF... which Google is putting alot of weight behind. Maybe they finally figured out it was never ActiveX that was the problem Matt Newman
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I know we have a problem with obesity in the US but corporations have not started using that as a weapon... yet. :) Obesity problem in America. 1 out of every 3 Americans weighs as much as the other two. :laugh:
"What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
Christian Graus in the C# forumled mike
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True, but the Google Desktop allows you to add ActiveX controls as well. So if you create some ActiveX that you need hosted, you can count on Google to host it for you.
There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math
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So does each piece of the google dashboard require 5Kb per running instance like Konfabulator/Yahoo/Etc... I suppose it would be cool if they didn't all copy each other. Then once that was cool they really need to make the memory footprint just a tad smaller. With all the crap people are adding to "desktops" we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything... I think ... perhaps I'd like just a desktop search tool that *really* worked. Occupied the 2Kb of memory it really should and used less than 1% of a P-500 processor. But given the script kiddies coming out of dumbed down marketing programs that got the drop outs from the computer science programs I'm probably asking for too much...:sigh:
The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)
code-frog wrote:
5Kb
More like 5MB if Dashboard on my iBook is anything to go by....
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I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006Matt Newman wrote:
Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets?
Hei mate! Everyone need gadgets!! :laugh::laugh::laugh: Leaving the jokes away, you opinions expressed exactly my thoughts.
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Gadgets to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here i am stuck in the middle with you. Does it have a left handed bolt stretcher? ;P
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I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006Matt Newman wrote:
I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience...
I like the calendar. Especially the "map" button next to "where". I also have a stock and news gadget running, and use the scratchpad constantly. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you? :) Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
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Hold up.... I thought ActiveX was bad? In fact I seem to remember its absence was, at least one time, a selling point for FF... which Google is putting alot of weight behind. Maybe they finally figured out it was never ActiveX that was the problem Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on IdiotsFrom a website perspective, it could be very bad. But from an application perspective, there's no difference between using ActiveX or writing the code into your application, except that ActiveX is very modular, so instead of creating different hosts for your controls, you could allow Google to display them. This is useful if you wish to use it for personal use. Then again, the widgets that Google, Yahoo and everybody else are using could also be very damaging if you design them to be.
There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math
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Gadgets to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here i am stuck in the middle with you. Does it have a left handed bolt stretcher? ;P
"What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
Christian Graus in the C# forumled mike
:laugh: Brilliant. And I love that song. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Matt Newman wrote:
I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience...
I like the calendar. Especially the "map" button next to "where". I also have a stock and news gadget running, and use the scratchpad constantly. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Seems like a lot of overhead for a calendar, news and stock ticker and a scratchpad (though I am really glad to see they have made the scratchpad save online so it works from any computer.) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
Paul Watson wrote:
allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits.
That's interesting. Sooo.... with JavaScript et al, I can see easily writing cross-platform gadgets. But with EXE's and COM, it seems rather platform specific. And security issues. Oh my. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Paul Watson wrote:
allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits.
That's interesting. Sooo.... with JavaScript et al, I can see easily writing cross-platform gadgets. But with EXE's and COM, it seems rather platform specific. And security issues. Oh my. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Microsoft Gadgets to a large degree work on the desktop or in a web-page with the same code. Something that I really liked. So you can have a Microsoft Gadget in your Vista sidebar and then that same Gadget in your Windows Live start web-page. Not sure this still works with Google Desktop but you can load any ActiveX control into the sidebar. Sometimes it falls over and dies as the control wasn't designed to be used that way but sometimes you get some cool functionality with existing code. I think there are merits to both systems. I'd like to see GD allowing a simpler JS/HTML/CSS model for simple gadgets while retaining the ability to load COM gadgets. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you? :) Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you?
Wonder if you could combine that with the Tetris...
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Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.