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  • M Matt Newman

    Hold up.... I thought ActiveX was bad? In fact I seem to remember its absence was, at least one time, a selling point for FF... which Google is putting alot of weight behind. Maybe they finally figured out it was never ActiveX that was the problem Matt Newman
    Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    From a website perspective, it could be very bad. But from an application perspective, there's no difference between using ActiveX or writing the code into your application, except that ActiveX is very modular, so instead of creating different hosts for your controls, you could allow Google to display them. This is useful if you wish to use it for personal use. Then again, the widgets that Google, Yahoo and everybody else are using could also be very damaging if you design them to be.


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    • L led mike

      Gadgets to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here i am stuck in the middle with you. Does it have a left handed bolt stretcher? ;P

      "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
      Christian Graus in the C# forum

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      Paul Watson
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      :laugh: Brilliant. And I love that song. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

      Shog9 wrote:

      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Matt Newman wrote:

        I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience...

        I like the calendar. Especially the "map" button next to "where". I also have a stock and news gadget running, and use the scratchpad constantly. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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        Paul Watson
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        Seems like a lot of overhead for a calendar, news and stock ticker and a scratchpad (though I am really glad to see they have made the scratchpad save online so it works from any computer.) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

        Shog9 wrote:

        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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          Paul Watson
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          Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

          Shog9 wrote:

          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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            Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

            Shog9 wrote:

            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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            Marc Clifton
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            Paul Watson wrote:

            allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits.

            That's interesting. Sooo.... with JavaScript et al, I can see easily writing cross-platform gadgets. But with EXE's and COM, it seems rather platform specific. And security issues. Oh my. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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              Paul Watson wrote:

              allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits.

              That's interesting. Sooo.... with JavaScript et al, I can see easily writing cross-platform gadgets. But with EXE's and COM, it seems rather platform specific. And security issues. Oh my. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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              Paul Watson
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              Microsoft Gadgets to a large degree work on the desktop or in a web-page with the same code. Something that I really liked. So you can have a Microsoft Gadget in your Vista sidebar and then that same Gadget in your Windows Live start web-page. Not sure this still works with Google Desktop but you can load any ActiveX control into the sidebar. Sometimes it falls over and dies as the control wasn't designed to be used that way but sometimes you get some cool functionality with existing code. I think there are merits to both systems. I'd like to see GD allowing a simpler JS/HTML/CSS model for simple gadgets while retaining the ability to load COM gadgets. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

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              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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              • B Brigg Thorp

                You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you? :) Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                Paddy Boyd
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                You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you?

                Wonder if you could combine that with the Tetris...

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Though I do prefer the way Microsoft and Yahoo! allow you to write gadgets in just simple old JavaScript/CSS/HTML. Google requires full blown EXEs and COM dangly bits. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                  Ed Poore
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                  Why not write your own gadget to do exactly this. Create more gadgets... :rolleyes:


                  You know you're a Land Rover owner when the best route from point A to point B is through the mud. Ed

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                    Why not write your own gadget to do exactly this. Create more gadgets... :rolleyes:


                    You know you're a Land Rover owner when the best route from point A to point B is through the mud. Ed

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                    led mike
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                    Yes! A Gadget that makes Gadgets... the Gadget Gadget. ohhh.... that made me dizzy dizzy.

                    "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                    Christian Graus in the C# forum

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      I read headlines daily about Microsoft taking on Google, and I have to laugh; they're not even in the same ballpark. Microsoft is clueless when it comes to search technology. MSN, TechNet, MSDN - all fall far short of acceptable. Even Lycos is better at finding content on a Microsoft site than any of Microsoft's search tools, and Google is way beyond that level. Get a grip, Bill - you don't have to dominate everything to be supremely successful! Search isn't your forte; stick to what you do best, and do it better than anyone else. Windows still could use some work, and your developer tools have a lot of room for improvement. No one does them better, but you still can make improvements. Devote your vast resources to things you're good at, and don't squander them on things that you can't hope to master in time to recoup your investment. Leave searching to those who are good at it, and focus on your strengths. Let Google dominate this tiny field of endeavor, and license their technology for your internal use. We'll all be much happier that way. Sorry to hijack your thread for my pontificating, Marc. In case you didn't notice, though, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.:-D "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                      If only Bill was listening. I'm expecting one day to see a Microsoft refrigerator. It will keep meats cold but milk will spoil. You'll have to reboot it to get ice cubes, but then the spoiled milk will freeze. The first few versions will have GAC leaks in the crisper. I haven't found better development tools than Microsoft's. Windows is OK. Linux is OK. I'm OK, you're OK. OK?;P

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                        Yes! A Gadget that makes Gadgets... the Gadget Gadget. ohhh.... that made me dizzy dizzy.

                        "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                        Christian Graus in the C# forum

                        led mike

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                        For added dizziness we need a recursive name like GNU's Not Unix. :rolleyes:


                        You know you're a Land Rover owner when the best route from point A to point B is through the mud. Ed

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                        • M mitchell50

                          If only Bill was listening. I'm expecting one day to see a Microsoft refrigerator. It will keep meats cold but milk will spoil. You'll have to reboot it to get ice cubes, but then the spoiled milk will freeze. The first few versions will have GAC leaks in the crisper. I haven't found better development tools than Microsoft's. Windows is OK. Linux is OK. I'm OK, you're OK. OK?;P

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                          Farrukh_5
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                          ok == not ok man we in the world of information technology and if only one geek holds the keys to information (let's say google only) then prepair for the world war 4 (why WW4 bcos WW3 is already underway by America now a days) --------------------------- http://www.idlsol.com

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