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  • C Chris Austin

    I was considering one; esp since I am a closet unix geek. But, the inergrated graphics is IMO a deal breaker. Not that I may need better performace from the graphics system; I just want the flexability if I decided to up and boot XP and play Oblivion like I can on my current HP notebook. Color me disappointed. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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    Paul Watson
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    How big a problem do you think it will be? What games would run on an integrated chip? Half Life 2 for instance runs on my HP which has an integrated chip. Other games won't though. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

    Shog9 wrote:

    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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    • J Judah Gabriel Himango

      The only thing stopping me from getting a Mac is the company's arrogance. I really dislike those Mac commercials (the Mac with Intel chip ones, and the nerdy business PC guy vs the cool hipster Mac guy) that assume we have all forgotten Apple's old marketing claims about how terrible the Intel chips were compared to the G4 processors. :rolleyes:

      Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Islamic Domination: Coming to a Jewish state near you! The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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      Paul Watson
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      Judah Himango wrote:

      The only thing stopping me from getting a Mac is the company's arrogance

      Forget about it. It is marketing and I don't like it either but it doesn't mean jack. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

      Shog9 wrote:

      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      • P Paul Watson

        How big a problem do you think it will be? What games would run on an integrated chip? Half Life 2 for instance runs on my HP which has an integrated chip. Other games won't though. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

        Shog9 wrote:

        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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        Chris Austin
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        For one Oblivion dosen't run on the intergrated chip. It does run well on my Hp wich has a mobile ATI chip. I installed boot camp on my wifes core-duo mac min. I tried to play oblivion but it would either crash or hang at start-up. I don't play a lot of games. But, if I am going to replace my current notebook which is pretty damn quick I want to have at least the options I have now. -- modified at 12:40 Tuesday 16th May, 2006 Oh, and here is a benchmark of the Intel graphichs chipset. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2427[^] Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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        • P Paul Watson

          Apple have done what I was hoping and have released a 13.3" MacBook[^]. Pretty decent price too, from $1099 for an Intel Core Duo 1.83Ghz, 512Mb RAM, 60Gb HD. I'd go for the 2.0Ghz with 1Gb RAM though as it has the DVD writer. That comes in at $1,399. Not bad for a Mac. My only gripes are the low-speed HD (5400RPM and no 7200RPM option) and the integrated graphics system. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

          Shog9 wrote:

          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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          Chris Maunder
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          Paul Watson wrote:

          My only gripes are the low-speed HD (5400RPM and no 7200RPM option)

          Here's a screwdriver. Go nuts :D cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          • C Chris Maunder

            Paul Watson wrote:

            My only gripes are the low-speed HD (5400RPM and no 7200RPM option)

            Here's a screwdriver. Go nuts :D cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Paul Watson
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            Go nuts

            :laugh: I wouldn't dare with a Mac. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

            Shog9 wrote:

            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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            • P Paul Watson

              I want a portable laptop. Something I can stuff into almost any bag and not worry about. I currently have a 15.4" HP laptop and the thing is a right pain. You have to man handle it, it doesn't fit into most bags and it is weighty. I have a desktop machine for work with a nice big screen so this laptop wouldn't be my dev machine. It is for everything else outside of the office. I want a laptop that is like an A4 pad of paper to carry around. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

              Shog9 wrote:

              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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              Stuart Dootson
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              Paul Watson wrote:

              I want a laptop that is like an A4 pad of paper to carry around.

              Although it's a bit bigger, that's what I like about my 14" iBook - also the speed of wake-up. The new MacBook's have got better screen resolution than my iBook as well - hmmmph, tech envy coming on :-)

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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                Go nuts

                :laugh: I wouldn't dare with a Mac. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                Shog9 wrote:

                eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                Stuart Dootson
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                Here's the instructions for a G4 iBook[^] - ouch :~

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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  I want a portable laptop.

                  I totally agree

                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  I want a laptop that is like an A4 pad of paper to carry around.

                  I have an IBM X40 that I can hide under a sheet of 8.5x11 paper, I think Lenovo still makes it but they also make this[^] which is called the X41 and as far as I can tell its only slightly heavier and a tablet pc. Matt Newman
                  Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  I'm pretty sure that's the same tablet PC that my doctor's office uses. No more paper notes in the doctor's illegible handwriting. Now, we have megabytes of electronic ink in the doctor's illegible handwriting :rolleyes:.


                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Care to elaborate? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    Lost User
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                    You need to use short words with him... The tigress is here :-D

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                    • S Stuart Dootson

                      Here's the instructions for a G4 iBook[^] - ouch :~

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                      Dan Neely
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                      *boogle* Maybe the $250 for my sisters cdrom replacement wasn't as much of a conjob as I thought it was. I'd've still bought her the cheap usb drive though, esp since she's considering replacing it with a more powerful model for next fall.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                        The only way I could handle a 12" display would be if you could pull out extensions to give you another 12" either side, neatly sliding back into place for storage or when space is tight....

                        I'm looking forward to the huge 3D hologram-like display... (think "Minority Report"). "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov

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                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                        I'm looking forward to the huge 3D hologram-like display... (think "Minority Report").

                        How big? http://www.seereal.com/en/products/index.php[^] _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        • M Michael A Barnhart

                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          I'm looking forward to the huge 3D hologram-like display

                          Why not just a pair of wrap around glasses that plug into the unit for the display. No built in screen on it at all. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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                          Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                          Why not just a pair of wrap around glasses that plug into the unit for the display.

                          harder when you already have glasses.... I would rather not require contact lenses (assuming they would work for me), just to use my computer. Plus the glasses technology is not perfect either requiring either specially treated glass for horizontal and verticle polarized light (each eye then sees only one image), or it has shutter speeds. The shutter glasses give me headaches, I would have to drive the display at 120hz to split it into alternate renderings of Right Left for 60hz signal. Either the auto-stereo or polarized glass with glasses is simply dual-link signal which is a little easier to pump simultaneous than alternate renderings. I would rather have a display that takes a Z-buffer and raster image to automatically generate stereo information through whatever method than need specialized software. Each user then comfortably uses what ever technology he/she can afford and feel comfortable with. :) and I have less work to do to render a 3D image.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          • E El Corazon

                            Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                            Why not just a pair of wrap around glasses that plug into the unit for the display.

                            harder when you already have glasses.... I would rather not require contact lenses (assuming they would work for me), just to use my computer. Plus the glasses technology is not perfect either requiring either specially treated glass for horizontal and verticle polarized light (each eye then sees only one image), or it has shutter speeds. The shutter glasses give me headaches, I would have to drive the display at 120hz to split it into alternate renderings of Right Left for 60hz signal. Either the auto-stereo or polarized glass with glasses is simply dual-link signal which is a little easier to pump simultaneous than alternate renderings. I would rather have a display that takes a Z-buffer and raster image to automatically generate stereo information through whatever method than need specialized software. Each user then comfortably uses what ever technology he/she can afford and feel comfortable with. :) and I have less work to do to render a 3D image.... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                            harder when you already have glasses....

                            Think of the goggles skiers wear. Fit right over standard glasses. Yes the display needs to be synced for left and right, but that should not be more than dual display capability for an initial offering and can be in the display, not the computer providing the image. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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                              Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                              harder when you already have glasses....

                              Think of the goggles skiers wear. Fit right over standard glasses. Yes the display needs to be synced for left and right, but that should not be more than dual display capability for an initial offering and can be in the display, not the computer providing the image. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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                              El Corazon
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                              Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                              and can be in the display, not the computer providing the image.

                              I wish.... :sigh: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              • S Stuart Dootson

                                Here's the instructions for a G4 iBook[^] - ouch :~

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                                brianwelsch
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                                Sweet Christmas! BW


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                                • E El Corazon

                                  Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                                  and can be in the display, not the computer providing the image.

                                  I wish.... :sigh: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  Michael A Barnhart
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                                  Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                  I wish....

                                  It is comming. Patience and dreams :) "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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                                  • S Stuart Dootson

                                    Here's the instructions for a G4 iBook[^] - ouch :~

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                                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                    Whoa.. wtf??? -- 100% natural. No superstitious additives.

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                                    • M Michael A Barnhart

                                      Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                      I wish....

                                      It is comming. Patience and dreams :) "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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                                      El Corazon
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                                      Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                                      It is comming. Patience and dreams

                                      yeah... right... :-D The pessimist wins on this one... the monitor manufacturers have already provided an auto-stereo interface with dual raster (via software), so their job is done. :) The rest is a software job.... I hear all the times that I joked about "that's hardware" excuse coming back to haunt me.... :doh: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      • E El Corazon

                                        Michael A. Barnhart wrote:

                                        It is comming. Patience and dreams

                                        yeah... right... :-D The pessimist wins on this one... the monitor manufacturers have already provided an auto-stereo interface with dual raster (via software), so their job is done. :) The rest is a software job.... I hear all the times that I joked about "that's hardware" excuse coming back to haunt me.... :doh: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Michael A Barnhart
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                                        You miss my intentions. Never said hardware or software. But still provided by the manufacturer for their product. Not custom work by you. "Every new day begins with possibilities. It's up to us to fill it with things that move us toward progress and peace.” (Ronald Reagan)

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                                          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                          The only way I could handle a 12" display would be if you could pull out extensions to give you another 12" either side, neatly sliding back into place for storage or when space is tight....

                                          I'm looking forward to the huge 3D hologram-like display... (think "Minority Report"). "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov

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                                          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          I'm looking forward to the huge 3D hologram-like display... (think "Minority Report").

                                          Sounds like something worth waiting for. :) Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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