What would cause the US to collapse in future?
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[Jumps on Soapbox] It already has. The political system remains, but the foundation of beliefs in personal freedoms and little-to-no government intervention in daily lives has been dying for the last 75 years. You can thank the ACLU for destroying freedom ... [/Jumps on Soapbox] If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
And the majority of ignorant voters with their entitlement mentality :mad: People that start writing code immediately are programmers (or hackers), people that ask questions first are Software Engineers - Graham Shanks
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If over weight cracks a place, there was no need of an atom bomb at Japan ;P SaRath.
"Don't Do Different things... Do Things Differently..."? This is actually a reply to the question above.... But whatever ;-) Cheers Martin "When your own heart asks - how will you respond?" Gosen waka shū "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus! My photos on flickr -- modified at 10:38 Thursday 1st June, 2006
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A majority of ignorant voters. People that start writing code immediately are programmers (or hackers), people that ask questions first are Software Engineers - Graham Shanks
Blake Miller wrote:
A majority of ignorant voters.
We already have that. For the last 3 Presidential elections, we have had people blaming/giving credit to the President for job creation/loss, the state of the economy, and government spending. Anyone who paid attention in high school government class would realize that the President has next to no direct control over any of those issues, yet they were all big issues in the elections. And sadly, that is just the tip of the iceberg ... If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
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I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?
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I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?
It was arrogance and a lack of respect. For our own citizens, of course - not all those other, less-important countries. :rolleyes:
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? This is actually a reply to the question above.... But whatever ;-) Cheers Martin "When your own heart asks - how will you respond?" Gosen waka shū "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus! My photos on flickr -- modified at 10:38 Thursday 1st June, 2006
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Yes sir... and the complete abandonment of the US Constitution since 1937, Thank you Roosevelt for forcing the New Deal through with threats of court stacking. Where is the association of states that have the power? Why is everything controlledc as "Regulating interstate commerce"? And go back to 1776 definitions of the words not the evolved meanings. Regulated means to make regular.
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The steady erosion of personal freedom (and its requisite converse, personal responsibility) will soon eradicate the US. "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9
Yes sir... and the complete abandonment of the US Constitution since 1937, Thank you Roosevelt for forcing the New Deal through with threats of court stacking. Where is the association of states that have the power? Why is everything controlledc as "Regulating interstate commerce"? And go back to 1776 definitions of the words not the evolved meanings. Regulated means to make regular.
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I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?
Some thoughts ... US Dollar is losing ground to other currencies. US Stock exchanges are under enormous pressure. Rising sea levels due to gradual vanishing ice caps. (New York flooded like Venice). San Andreas Fault causing Earthquake that destroys the American Semi-Conductor and Computing Industries. Caldera that is Yellowstone blows its top big-time.
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Some thoughts ... US Dollar is losing ground to other currencies. US Stock exchanges are under enormous pressure. Rising sea levels due to gradual vanishing ice caps. (New York flooded like Venice). San Andreas Fault causing Earthquake that destroys the American Semi-Conductor and Computing Industries. Caldera that is Yellowstone blows its top big-time.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
San Andreas Fault causing Earthquake that destroys the American Semi-Conductor and Computing Industries.
Those industries left California a few years ago. Not because of earthquakes, but because California's business laws are completely absurd. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
San Andreas Fault causing Earthquake that destroys the American Semi-Conductor and Computing Industries.
Those industries left California a few years ago. Not because of earthquakes, but because California's business laws are completely absurd. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
they left because SE Asian companies will do it for cheaper than any company, anywhere in the US, will do it. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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they left because SE Asian companies will do it for cheaper than any company, anywhere in the US, will do it. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
they left because SE Asian companies will do it for cheaper than any company, anywhere in the US, will do it.
For some things, yes. But their offices moved out of CA and into AZ, NM, OR, and WA for the most part. And many of the companies that jumped headlong into outsourcing are now realizing that some things can't be outsourced well without a huge drop in quality. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
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I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?
Any particular reason you're promoting the demise of my country? Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Know someone who desperately needs to get a clue? Visit www.DownloadAClue.com and send them one!
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[Jumps on Soapbox] It already has. The political system remains, but the foundation of beliefs in personal freedoms and little-to-no government intervention in daily lives has been dying for the last 75 years. You can thank the ACLU for destroying freedom ... [/Jumps on Soapbox] If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
Zac Howland wrote:
You can thank the ACLU for destroying freedom ...
Speaking of freedoms, the very freedoms that were fought for to create this country will be the very same ones that destroy it. :(
"The largest fire starts but with the smallest spark." - David Crow
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And the majority of ignorant voters with their entitlement mentality :mad: People that start writing code immediately are programmers (or hackers), people that ask questions first are Software Engineers - Graham Shanks
Blake Miller wrote:
And the majority of ignorant voters with their entitlement mentality
By "entitlment mentality", I assume you mean treating Uncle Sam like he is their long lost rich dad who happens to have a huge trust fund just for them? :P If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
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Chris Losinger wrote:
they left because SE Asian companies will do it for cheaper than any company, anywhere in the US, will do it.
For some things, yes. But their offices moved out of CA and into AZ, NM, OR, and WA for the most part. And many of the companies that jumped headlong into outsourcing are now realizing that some things can't be outsourced well without a huge drop in quality. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
Zac Howland wrote:
But their offices moved out of CA and into AZ, NM, OR, and WA for the most part
most of the furniture and textile manufacturing jobs left NC in the past decade, and it had nothing to do with the laws: it's all about cheap labor. and of course, it's not just NC. but we got lots of office jobs... for now. but there's no reason we should doubt that someday, some other country will figure out how to do those jobs at acceptable levels of quality. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Zac Howland wrote:
You can thank the ACLU for destroying freedom ...
Speaking of freedoms, the very freedoms that were fought for to create this country will be the very same ones that destroy it. :(
"The largest fire starts but with the smallest spark." - David Crow
DavidCrow wrote:
Speaking of freedoms, the very freedoms that were fought for to create this country will be the very same ones that destroy it.
Those freedoms were long since abolished. Lincoln (and the sitting Congress at the time) set the table for that when he decided that states were not free to leave the "Union", and the slope has gotten progressively more slippery ever since. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
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VAIO Blue wrote:
I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?
Simple Outsource the government jobs to India (Asok Rules);) Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :-)
click.ok wrote:
Outsource the government jobs to India (Asok Rules)
Ironic that Asok is an Indian (at least by origin). Regards, Nish
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Zac Howland wrote:
But their offices moved out of CA and into AZ, NM, OR, and WA for the most part
most of the furniture and textile manufacturing jobs left NC in the past decade, and it had nothing to do with the laws: it's all about cheap labor. and of course, it's not just NC. but we got lots of office jobs... for now. but there's no reason we should doubt that someday, some other country will figure out how to do those jobs at acceptable levels of quality. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
most of the furniture and textile manufacturing jobs left NC in the past decade, and it had nothing to do with the laws: it's all about cheap labor. and of course, it's not just NC.
There are still a ton of those jobs in NC (and Southern VA as well). Businesses moving is not necessarily a problem as it can help improve efficiency. The mass exodus from CA was largely due to the fact that it is next to impossible to make money when you are based in CA due to taxes, and the propensity for being sued. My point on this section of the thread was that an earthquake on the San Andreas falt would not shake the semiconductor/electronic industry since they are no longer there anyway. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac
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It would put the US in a disposition, for sure, but even worse, it would send many Middle East nations back to the Middle Ages.
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