Ghosts...
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Well, that depends... Camera capture visible light (electromagnetic emission in a certain range of frequency). Now the question is, if the ghost exist, do they: -1. reflect light, like normal matter? -2. emit their own light (electronic emission)? -3. or de we see them with some 'not very much used or known about but not electromagnetic based' kind of 6th sense? In case 1. & 2. they could be shot. In case 3. they can't..... Personally I don't believe in ghost, after life and blah blah blah. But I will be pleased to be wrong :laugh:
Sir! There is life after death and there is one quote ("Nothing is more certain which cannot be seen and nothing is more uncertain which can be seen") i can give you billion of examples that life after death is there and life on earth is just a test just like admission test or GRE that you should be granted admission or not. The whole purpose of life is make God sure that we are his servants and we obey his commands so that he can let us admitt in heaven otherwise just like failure on this earth there will be a failure there and in that regard one will be in hell which is a bad place to live. if you need explaination please do email me back thanks
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Sir! There is life after death and there is one quote ("Nothing is more certain which cannot be seen and nothing is more uncertain which can be seen") i can give you billion of examples that life after death is there and life on earth is just a test just like admission test or GRE that you should be granted admission or not. The whole purpose of life is make God sure that we are his servants and we obey his commands so that he can let us admitt in heaven otherwise just like failure on this earth there will be a failure there and in that regard one will be in hell which is a bad place to live. if you need explaination please do email me back thanks
I am more or less over fed-up with religious discussion and I have no intention to start one (FYI I'm an atheist). Anyway, wether or not I believe in (G)god(s)(esses) doesn't matter. The point is do I believe in ghosts? I don't (it's more akin to I don't care) but I would like too ;-) (if you se what I mean?) BUT "these" manifestation, I just want to question that they come from a 'dead being' and I have the simple following argument: Since the begining of time, there is a huge number of dead, way more that the tiny numer of living. On the other hand there is very little such manifestation (if at all). So wether or not this manifestation are real, it's hard to believe they are the product of dead being as dead being, if such thing exist, will be so numerous their manifestation should swanp us instead of elluding us...
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I don't believe in ghosts....however, this happened to some friends of mine who I trust 100%: They moved into a new house in a village, and they found that there was one room they could never feel warm in regardless of temperature. One night, the wife woke up and saw a woman standing at the end of her bed. She woke her husband, who saw her too, then she disappeared. The following day in the pub, the husband asked the landlord if their house was haunted, and the landlord said that he hadn't wanted to say anything about it before they saw anything, then took him out to a back room in the pub where there was an old painting....of the woman they had seen the previous night!
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Can ghosts be photographed? I know, this is something way off track from technology, but I believe that's what the Lounge it for... :-> So, how many of you believe in ghosts? I personally don't believe that they can be captured on cameras. But does anyone have a different opinion? :) Well, I just had a long discussion with a friend regarding Ghosts and he says that Ghosts are globs of Electromagnetic energy and electromagnetic energy cannot be captured on tape. Do you all agree? :doh: --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!
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Anna, this is... < I'm speechless ... And puzzled ... and curious ... > That makes you think indeed! Anyway I wonder why the dead would be able to do more than the living... (like throwing a washing machine, it's heavy!) Maybe there is something mysterious, but different? (I mean: not a ghost...)
I dunno about photography ghosts, but it may be possible, it may not. As for one thing we dont even really know if they exist for instance. No one has yet to prove that one particualer video or photo could be have been edited and/or be unfraudable. No hardcore proof as far as im' concerned. I personally dont think they can be photographed. -Think not of the problem But of the solution! -Mind what people do, not what they say, for deeds will betray an lie. -The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. -Contradictions don't exist, in whole or in part.
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Can ghosts be photographed? I know, this is something way off track from technology, but I believe that's what the Lounge it for... :-> So, how many of you believe in ghosts? I personally don't believe that they can be captured on cameras. But does anyone have a different opinion? :) Well, I just had a long discussion with a friend regarding Ghosts and he says that Ghosts are globs of Electromagnetic energy and electromagnetic energy cannot be captured on tape. Do you all agree? :doh: --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!
1: Light is electromagnetic energy. 2: Our eyes can detect it. 3: Cameras can also detect it. conclusion: If ghost are real and we, as a human being, can see it without any strange artificial means, then, yes the camera should also work and you could take a picture of a ghost. Points of caution: The mind is v-e-r-y powerful. It can make believe. You know there is ppl in mental hospitals that actually have non-existing friend. Some of them think the fridge is going to gobble him. Also, social experiences can be devastating (I cant spell, soz) to one's mind. People in the right crowd will believe they are healed, but the next day he finds that he is not. How to test for possible mind numbing experiences: Take a picture. If its in the pic, then its not your mind. If you can't take a picture, ask a friend? If your friend admits it, let him draw a picture independantly from you. If it compares, theres a big possibility, but it is not conclusive. If no friend -> act temporarily insane :-D . Truth: A woman had a nightmare every nigth in which she fell in a big black hole to her death. After being hipnotized, the psycoligist (I need help with spelling) found that she was dreaming about a small hole on her carpet. This story just shows you how powerful the subconcious is. Just remember: enjoy life PS: sorry for the long reply and yes: I'm a scientist and an atheist The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN
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The "orbs" are out-of-focus dust particles reflecting light often from the camera's flash bulb. Sorry to disappoint. Check out http://www.randi.org[^] for lots of analysis of the paranormal, spirituality, and other kooky, unfounded beliefs. ;)
I don't agree. I've caught more than one orb in motion on a video camera that used no flash. People can try to explain all day long, but yet they don't bother to experiment. Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
If that's all you found in your photographs, I'd suggest you find a new research team.
oh no... that was not all, that is just the most common. It was the gut wrenching claw to the stomache and throat that retired me. Pain does wonders for retiring the part-timers. I wasn't as serious as some, programming is safer.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Define random then (note, I'm not necessarily disagreeing here). I've caught enough orbs on video to know it's not totally random (as in jerky). They do like to fly around a room it seems though. I've had one follow a friend of mine into my room once (caught on video of course).
Here is your test for random, assuming you don't get arrested for it.... take a video camera out and photograph your largest transformer station the same way you would looking for orbs in haunting. It is amazing that the occurance is much higher around high energy devices. If all orbs are ghosts, then your electrical companies have the most haunted locations in America. ;) Most groups throw out stills of orbs anymore, video of orbs are generally categorized by behavior. When you capture the ones from pure electrical sources like a power-plant you can begin to understand the differences between them. Orbs, like lightning, follow the path of least resistance, with motion and inertia, that does not mean jerky but it does not mean straight lines. Dust always follows the wind directions, orbs do not have to. Now of course you also have dust, rods (insects stretched on multi-frame video), and other non-orbs that look similar. It is one reason why most orbs are discounted by more and more groups, too easy to discount also. Now that science is experimenting with all kinds of low/high-energy temporary plasma forms from lightning/electricity research, orbs are moving from the paranormal to the normal. Which also means they are beginning to have a normal explanation which means they are no longer suitable for evidence of haunting. Why say haunting when you see an orb when you can just say "poor wiring is releasing a static charge in the form of low-energy charged air-particles similar to plasma"... call your local electrician, not your local ghostbuster. ;) here's your new orb: http://www.tvhistory.tv/1966_Reddy_Kilowatt_Toy.JPG[
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
that was not all, that is just the most common.
You're totally correct about that.
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
When you capture the ones from pure electrical sources like a power-plant you can begin to understand the differences between them.
You could be on to something here. I will say, most of them I caught were around the home (electrical devices a plenty though) and graveyards (still wondering on that). But, if I ever get the chance, I just my try out what your saying. Of course, if I end up in jail, don't expect a post about it. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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I don't agree. I've caught more than one orb in motion on a video camera that used no flash. People can try to explain all day long, but yet they don't bother to experiment. Jeremy Falcon
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You're right. It's much more likely to be the physical manefestation of souls and/or spirits of dead people. I wonder what they're trying to tell us? Just think of all that they can teach us! :omg:
Well that just sums up your intelligence right there. Save the smartass comments for someone who cares. Offer something real or shut up. Jeremy Falcon
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1: Light is electromagnetic energy. 2: Our eyes can detect it. 3: Cameras can also detect it. conclusion: If ghost are real and we, as a human being, can see it without any strange artificial means, then, yes the camera should also work and you could take a picture of a ghost. Points of caution: The mind is v-e-r-y powerful. It can make believe. You know there is ppl in mental hospitals that actually have non-existing friend. Some of them think the fridge is going to gobble him. Also, social experiences can be devastating (I cant spell, soz) to one's mind. People in the right crowd will believe they are healed, but the next day he finds that he is not. How to test for possible mind numbing experiences: Take a picture. If its in the pic, then its not your mind. If you can't take a picture, ask a friend? If your friend admits it, let him draw a picture independantly from you. If it compares, theres a big possibility, but it is not conclusive. If no friend -> act temporarily insane :-D . Truth: A woman had a nightmare every nigth in which she fell in a big black hole to her death. After being hipnotized, the psycoligist (I need help with spelling) found that she was dreaming about a small hole on her carpet. This story just shows you how powerful the subconcious is. Just remember: enjoy life PS: sorry for the long reply and yes: I'm a scientist and an atheist The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN
BiTN wrote:
conclusion: If ghost are real and we, as a human being, can see it without any strange artificial means, then, yes the camera should also work and you could take a picture of a ghost.
My understanding of it has been that it falls out of the spectrum of light that our eyes can see, but cameras can pick up. Like the infrared lights on remote controls for instance. Jeremy Falcon
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Well that just sums up your intelligence right there. Save the smartass comments for someone who cares. Offer something real or shut up. Jeremy Falcon
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Leave it to poeople like you that refuse to admit something because you can't explain it. You don't know it isn't anymore than than we know it is. Nevermind what the actual truth may be. Also, all I did was discredit your crap. If you can't think of anything better then being a smartass, then stop wasting my time. Jeremy Falcon
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Leave it to poeople like you that refuse to admit something because you can't explain it. You don't know it isn't anymore than than we know it is. Nevermind what the actual truth may be. Also, all I did was discredit your crap. If you can't think of anything better then being a smartass, then stop wasting my time. Jeremy Falcon
Out-of-focus dust is just a simple explanation for the mundane inexplicable phenomenon. I mean, there's a ghost explanation, and there's a lousy photographer explanation. I'm just advocating that the controversy be known. Obviously further study is warranted. :) -- modified at 15:12 Tuesday 6th June, 2006
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Out-of-focus dust is just a simple explanation for the mundane inexplicable phenomenon. I mean, there's a ghost explanation, and there's a lousy photographer explanation. I'm just advocating that the controversy be known. Obviously further study is warranted. :) -- modified at 15:12 Tuesday 6th June, 2006
Your example mentioned the flash as the reason. This obviously isn't the case with video cameras. And, from my own research from fliming them, they are nothing like dust. Do I fully believe they are ghost, no but they could be. Do I believe they dust particles, not at all. Jeremy Falcon
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Estherino wrote:
When you are conceived, where does that spark of life come from? Just the chemical reaction?
IMHO, yes, just the chemical reaction, and our consciousness is purely down to the massive complexity of the interconnections in the human brain. Just my opinion though!
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BiTN wrote:
conclusion: If ghost are real and we, as a human being, can see it without any strange artificial means, then, yes the camera should also work and you could take a picture of a ghost.
My understanding of it has been that it falls out of the spectrum of light that our eyes can see, but cameras can pick up. Like the infrared lights on remote controls for instance. Jeremy Falcon
If a ghost is infra red, then yes. Ppl wont see it and the camera will. But such "measurements" should be carefully taken, because a warm object also gives off infra red. There may even be a possiblity that a "ghost" could be seen in the ultra voilet region, which the eye also cannot detect. But one must be careful of a dust cloud, or something similar, doesn't scatter the ultravoilet and create something that could be mistaken for a ghost. I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot. The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN
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If a ghost is infra red, then yes. Ppl wont see it and the camera will. But such "measurements" should be carefully taken, because a warm object also gives off infra red. There may even be a possiblity that a "ghost" could be seen in the ultra voilet region, which the eye also cannot detect. But one must be careful of a dust cloud, or something similar, doesn't scatter the ultravoilet and create something that could be mistaken for a ghost. I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot. The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN
BiTN wrote:
If a ghost is infra red, then yes.
That was just an example. I don't think ghosts are that.
BiTN wrote:
I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot.
Same here. Jeremy Falcon
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TechyMaila wrote:
Can ghosts be photographed?
I dont know but i have heard reported cases of ghostly images caught on camera.
TechyMaila wrote:
how many of you believe in ghosts?
I try not to believe but i just can't find any sensable reason for any weird encounters or happenings. :~
TechyMaila wrote:
he says that Ghosts are globs of Electromagnetic energy
I think ghost (if they do exists) are something that is created from the remaining mind power of the deceased. :suss:
:laugh:perhaps they can, it all depends on what type of film and less you are using. but if u can see it u can photograph it.. no 1 ever see a ghost, it puts what you think you are seeing in your head... you eyes have a limit of wavelength seen. and a ghost is very far in the line tyrohansen
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BiTN wrote:
If a ghost is infra red, then yes.
That was just an example. I don't think ghosts are that.
BiTN wrote:
I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot.
Same here. Jeremy Falcon
