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  • B BiTN

    1: Light is electromagnetic energy. 2: Our eyes can detect it. 3: Cameras can also detect it. conclusion: If ghost are real and we, as a human being, can see it without any strange artificial means, then, yes the camera should also work and you could take a picture of a ghost. Points of caution: The mind is v-e-r-y powerful. It can make believe. You know there is ppl in mental hospitals that actually have non-existing friend. Some of them think the fridge is going to gobble him. Also, social experiences can be devastating (I cant spell, soz) to one's mind. People in the right crowd will believe they are healed, but the next day he finds that he is not. How to test for possible mind numbing experiences: Take a picture. If its in the pic, then its not your mind. If you can't take a picture, ask a friend? If your friend admits it, let him draw a picture independantly from you. If it compares, theres a big possibility, but it is not conclusive. If no friend -> act temporarily insane :-D . Truth: A woman had a nightmare every nigth in which she fell in a big black hole to her death. After being hipnotized, the psycoligist (I need help with spelling) found that she was dreaming about a small hole on her carpet. This story just shows you how powerful the subconcious is. Just remember: enjoy life PS: sorry for the long reply and yes: I'm a scientist and an atheist The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

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    BiTN wrote:

    conclusion: If ghost are real and we, as a human being, can see it without any strange artificial means, then, yes the camera should also work and you could take a picture of a ghost.

    My understanding of it has been that it falls out of the spectrum of light that our eyes can see, but cameras can pick up. Like the infrared lights on remote controls for instance. Jeremy Falcon

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    • J Jeremy Falcon

      Well that just sums up your intelligence right there. Save the smartass comments for someone who cares. Offer something real or shut up. Jeremy Falcon

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      zjspeed
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      Something real? REAL? In a GHOSTS discussion? Good luck. :doh:

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        Something real? REAL? In a GHOSTS discussion? Good luck. :doh:

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        Leave it to poeople like you that refuse to admit something because you can't explain it. You don't know it isn't anymore than than we know it is. Nevermind what the actual truth may be. Also, all I did was discredit your crap. If you can't think of anything better then being a smartass, then stop wasting my time. Jeremy Falcon

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        • J Jeremy Falcon

          Leave it to poeople like you that refuse to admit something because you can't explain it. You don't know it isn't anymore than than we know it is. Nevermind what the actual truth may be. Also, all I did was discredit your crap. If you can't think of anything better then being a smartass, then stop wasting my time. Jeremy Falcon

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          Out-of-focus dust is just a simple explanation for the mundane inexplicable phenomenon. I mean, there's a ghost explanation, and there's a lousy photographer explanation. I'm just advocating that the controversy be known. Obviously further study is warranted. :) -- modified at 15:12 Tuesday 6th June, 2006

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            Out-of-focus dust is just a simple explanation for the mundane inexplicable phenomenon. I mean, there's a ghost explanation, and there's a lousy photographer explanation. I'm just advocating that the controversy be known. Obviously further study is warranted. :) -- modified at 15:12 Tuesday 6th June, 2006

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            Your example mentioned the flash as the reason. This obviously isn't the case with video cameras. And, from my own research from fliming them, they are nothing like dust. Do I fully believe they are ghost, no but they could be. Do I believe they dust particles, not at all. Jeremy Falcon

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            • H hairy_hats

              Estherino wrote:

              When you are conceived, where does that spark of life come from? Just the chemical reaction?

              IMHO, yes, just the chemical reaction, and our consciousness is purely down to the massive complexity of the interconnections in the human brain. Just my opinion though!

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              So does that mean a complex enough computer / artificial intelligence system will be as self aware and 'real' as ourselves? This is why I find AI so fascinating. Cheers, Estherino

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                BiTN wrote:

                conclusion: If ghost are real and we, as a human being, can see it without any strange artificial means, then, yes the camera should also work and you could take a picture of a ghost.

                My understanding of it has been that it falls out of the spectrum of light that our eyes can see, but cameras can pick up. Like the infrared lights on remote controls for instance. Jeremy Falcon

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                BiTN
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                If a ghost is infra red, then yes. Ppl wont see it and the camera will. But such "measurements" should be carefully taken, because a warm object also gives off infra red. There may even be a possiblity that a "ghost" could be seen in the ultra voilet region, which the eye also cannot detect. But one must be careful of a dust cloud, or something similar, doesn't scatter the ultravoilet and create something that could be mistaken for a ghost. I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot. The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

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                • B BiTN

                  If a ghost is infra red, then yes. Ppl wont see it and the camera will. But such "measurements" should be carefully taken, because a warm object also gives off infra red. There may even be a possiblity that a "ghost" could be seen in the ultra voilet region, which the eye also cannot detect. But one must be careful of a dust cloud, or something similar, doesn't scatter the ultravoilet and create something that could be mistaken for a ghost. I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot. The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  BiTN wrote:

                  If a ghost is infra red, then yes.

                  That was just an example. I don't think ghosts are that.

                  BiTN wrote:

                  I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot.

                  Same here. Jeremy Falcon

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                  • W Weiye Chen

                    TechyMaila wrote:

                    Can ghosts be photographed?

                    I dont know but i have heard reported cases of ghostly images caught on camera.

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                    how many of you believe in ghosts?

                    I try not to believe but i just can't find any sensable reason for any weird encounters or happenings. :~

                    TechyMaila wrote:

                    he says that Ghosts are globs of Electromagnetic energy

                    I think ghost (if they do exists) are something that is created from the remaining mind power of the deceased. :suss:

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                    :laugh:perhaps they can, it all depends on what type of film and less you are using. but if u can see it u can photograph it.. no 1 ever see a ghost, it puts what you think you are seeing in your head... you eyes have a limit of wavelength seen. and a ghost is very far in the line tyrohansen

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      BiTN wrote:

                      If a ghost is infra red, then yes.

                      That was just an example. I don't think ghosts are that.

                      BiTN wrote:

                      I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot.

                      Same here. Jeremy Falcon

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                      BiTN
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                      Also just an example - I could have said any frequency. I'm working with x-rays. Maybe ghosts are x-rays? :-D The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

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                      • B BiTN

                        Also just an example - I could have said any frequency. I'm working with x-rays. Maybe ghosts are x-rays? :-D The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        BiTN wrote:

                        Maybe ghosts are x-rays?

                        Hmm, that would explain why stuff looks white in them. Hmmm. :rolleyes: Jeremy Falcon

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