Middle East
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Is it just me or that the thread is too cluttered to read ? :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
It is getting rather difficult to follow but we'll manage
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talking to arafat is like talking to a toilet paper. William De Prêtre wrote: Inviting them for a picknick What they do ? they bomb us. you see only them. I tell you, when you here you see the whole picture. You think they're innocent and all that crap. Well yes, their babies are inoncent. but from the age of 6 they throw stones because that what they got from their lovely parents. so you see a picture of a soldier with rifle standing against a child with a stone. then you say - "i dont beleive it , they send out soldiers against children!" well i got something to tell you - stones can kill too. and what do you want , that we throw on them stones too? - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Dan Pomerchik wrote: you see only them Trust me, I remember the Olympics & countless planes as well. Dan Pomerchik wrote: stones can kill too. and what do you want , that we throw on them stones too? What you mean those little rocks can penetrate armour ? Every bleeding child on the streets is costing you dearly and yet the Israeli armed forces don't pull any punches against mere children. PS : can you explain to me why a non-violent march by jews (mostly) and arabs was so brutally beaten away by the Israeli armed forces ?
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Interesting perspective. Surely Sharon has self defence (if a little extreme) has an excuse. The Jews weren't much of a threat to Hitler apart from in his own head. Bottom line, a lot of people need to hang their heads in shame for their involvment in the Middle East problem. It's easy to place the blame, what the world need is somebody bold enough to step forward and make a difference. Michael :-)
are you the only guy here not insulting me ? :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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in the left corner : a small group of rabid extremists targeting innocents in the right corner : an large regular army targeting innocents with high-tech weapons And now ?
it's a pointless argument. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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they want whole jerusalem. of course its not practical because the "kotel" is there and there's no way we give it. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
What part of share is difficult to understand ? Jerusalem is holy to three religions and in medieval times it could be shared (somewhat). Why not again ?
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it's a pointless argument. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Then why is everbody still fighting ?
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are you the only guy here not insulting me ? :-) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Oi, have I ever called you names ?
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William De Prêtre wrote: destroyed his police force His ""police force"" is a couple of murderers! When the lynch was, their "police" were just looking on them murdering in a very violent way two of our soldiers. AND - arafat is a big insparation for them. They take what he said as holy. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
well they got no law Any way, this is getting old. its pointless and im tired, need to go already, and the forum is too much cluttered.. i dont want to wasted codeproject's web space.. cya. nice talking with you, though you probably think im a monster or something. read my other messages. In one of them i said i dont feel hatred for palestinians and more. Later - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Pol Pot ? Anyway, Sharon may not be Hitler yet but he's getting there slowly but surely. PS : tell me, a long while ago footage was shown of Israeli soldiers breaking Palestian boys' arms with rocks. What is the military purpose of this ? Does it stop terrorism ?
well, I dont remember seeing such thing. And beleive me, I totaly despise such actions. If it did happen, than its shame. I dont know what to say. Anyway I beleive you, I just watch TV not frequently. Im tired of this already. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Nikolay Denisov wrote: No comments I didn't get it. By saying I was supporting his opinion i just meant we should not forget what we had with germany, and keep that in mind. Nikolay Denisov wrote: number of victims from each side over the past year or two! What the hell are you talking about? We got a bomb here every day. More than a bomb a day. The last few days we had about 8 bombs. Every bomb like that is tenth's of wounded (which usually some of them die later) and death. And I do see their pain. They have no country, no work, no nothing. But we cant just give them our land so they will be happy. think about that. Nikolay Denisov wrote: That is very close indeed to what the Nazi's did with respect to Jews. It is so not based that i have nothing to say. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Dan Pomerchik wrote: I didn't get it. By saying I was supporting his opinion i just meant we should not forget what we had with germany, and keep that in mind. Ok. I misunderstood you. Dan Pomerchik wrote: What the hell are you talking about? We got a bomb here every day. More than a bomb a day. The last few days we had about 8 bombs. Every bomb like that is tenth's of wounded (which usually some of them die later) and death. Once again, compare the number of Jews and Arabs died over the last year (not only during the last few days). I don't think that Arabs die less in this war. Dan Pomerchik wrote: They have no country, no work, no nothing. But we cant just give them our land so they will be happy. think about that. Why do they have no country? And why do you think this land is yours? Your land is within the borders as of 1948. Regards, Nikolay
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Dan Pomerchik wrote: John Smith wrote: This really surprise me, as Jews got the same treatment from the Nazi's That's right. I am supporting this opinion BUT No comments. Dan Pomerchik wrote: WHAT EXACTLY are we doing to them!? nothing! To begin with, just compare the number of victims from each side over the past year or two! You see pain and sorrow of Jews, but you don't see, or rather don't want to see, pain and sorrow of Arabs. It looks like (and your posts prove it) you treat them like some sort of animals rather than human beings. That is very close indeed to what the Nazi's did with respect to Jews. Regards, Nikolay
Nikolay Denisov wrote: That is very close indeed to what the Nazi's did with respect to Jews I think this comparison is irrelevant. You can't put on the same level Israel and the III. Reich, whose primary goal was to exterminate millions of civilians through Europa. The nazis didn't even consider jews (and gypsies) as animals, but as "pieces" (stücken) they should destroy. It's funny how we get started.It's funny how we get started. They get their money from the things on you. They get your money and the girls and the fame. I only do it for the fun. That's my game. KoRn, "Counting"
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Karl wrote: I'm not sure he has the control over all the terrorist groups That's right. He dont have the control over all of them. But he dont do anything to stop the bombs. He supports it. Karl wrote: Somebody has to go between to stop the fight. Yes. And that should come from the exterior. Karl wrote: undiscriminated violence is not the solution I haven't said it is. I just dont think that by talking between ourselves we will solve anything. I am against violence in general , but they passed all the lines. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Dan Pomerchik wrote: by talking between ourselves we will solve anything So would you accept U.N. troops in the West Bank and in the Gaza strip ? It's funny how we get started. They get their money from the things on you. They get your money and the girls and the fame. I only do it for the fun. That's my game. KoRn, "Counting"
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****Colin Davies wrote: Wasn't that a verbal rather than a written offer, that Israel wouldn't put in writting ? I agree, PM barak didn't go all the way, but it was a great way that he walked. I don't think taht as he says he "picked every rock" but rather went a long way, longer than any other Israeli leader. ****Colin Davies wrote: I think most people realise that most Palestinians and most Israelis wish peace, however there is a minority on both sides that will never be satisfied The problem, IMHO, are not the minorities in both sides, but the leaders of both sides. Sharon and Arafat are not part of the solution, but part of the problem. Noam Ben Haim Web Developer
I remember reading a Time interview with Barak after he had to leave office. He said that he chose the right road -- to seek peace -- even if it wasn't popular. He felt that history would vindicate him. Looking at how things have escalated with Sharon, I wonder if anyone realized how things could go wrong so quickly. CodeGuy The WTL newsgroup: over 1300 members! Be a part of it. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wtl
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What part of share is difficult to understand ? Jerusalem is holy to three religions and in medieval times it could be shared (somewhat). Why not again ?
Way not take Jerusalem out of the question and give it to the UN. So neither side has it and they could stop argueing about it ? I am a signature virus! Help me spread and copy me to your sig! Ooops I am infected
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talking to arafat is like talking to a toilet paper. William De Prêtre wrote: Inviting them for a picknick What they do ? they bomb us. you see only them. I tell you, when you here you see the whole picture. You think they're innocent and all that crap. Well yes, their babies are inoncent. but from the age of 6 they throw stones because that what they got from their lovely parents. so you see a picture of a soldier with rifle standing against a child with a stone. then you say - "i dont beleive it , they send out soldiers against children!" well i got something to tell you - stones can kill too. and what do you want , that we throw on them stones too? - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Yeah and the opposite is also true, they send children against soldiers I am a signature virus! Help me spread and copy me to your sig! Ooops I am infected
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Way not take Jerusalem out of the question and give it to the UN. So neither side has it and they could stop argueing about it ? I am a signature virus! Help me spread and copy me to your sig! Ooops I am infected
Martin Bohring wrote: Way not take Jerusalem out of the question and give it to the UN. So neither side has it and they could stop argueing about it ? Sure, Neither side gets Jerusalem. But don't give it to the UN. The UN sucks, Give it to the Dali Lama. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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I think it's interesting that we often qu-ote each other in our sigs and attribute the qu-otes to "The Lounge". --- Daniel Fergusson, "The Lounge"
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Oi, have I ever called you names ?
well no, but John Smith called me "one sick animal". I was insulted from that. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Then why is everbody still fighting ?
well beleive me, I want this crisis to end already. Nobody knows the solution. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Way not take Jerusalem out of the question and give it to the UN. So neither side has it and they could stop argueing about it ? I am a signature virus! Help me spread and copy me to your sig! Ooops I am infected
You can't do that. Jerusalem is the most important city for three religions, as William said. We must find a way to share it. We and the palestinians can live by the side of each other. I do believe that. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Dan Pomerchik wrote: I didn't get it. By saying I was supporting his opinion i just meant we should not forget what we had with germany, and keep that in mind. Ok. I misunderstood you. Dan Pomerchik wrote: What the hell are you talking about? We got a bomb here every day. More than a bomb a day. The last few days we had about 8 bombs. Every bomb like that is tenth's of wounded (which usually some of them die later) and death. Once again, compare the number of Jews and Arabs died over the last year (not only during the last few days). I don't think that Arabs die less in this war. Dan Pomerchik wrote: They have no country, no work, no nothing. But we cant just give them our land so they will be happy. think about that. Why do they have no country? And why do you think this land is yours? Your land is within the borders as of 1948. Regards, Nikolay
Well, the number of jews died is very big. Just today when I read the newspaper I came across a full list of all victims since the beginning of Al Aqsa. It is 400+ victims (death only). I would have scanned it and show you, even its in hebrew, but it's too big to fit in the scanner! I don't say they have no victims, but I think we got more. After all, we aint bombing them every day or so - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"