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What is anti-light-speed?

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  • E ensger

    And I,m realy glad, that you recogniced, I'm not from Germany. That is imprtant for us (you can't understand, but it is) So :rose::rose::rose: to you!!!

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    Some people will still only regard you as European. :rolleyes: :-D

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      Albert Einstein had a thought that if you traveled backwards away from a clock faster then light speed you would actually be going back in time as the clock would turn backwards. The same thing is applied to if you see farther into the universe you are actually seeing further back in time as light takes time to travel. So if you equate going back in time to going a negitive velocity in terms of space time, then actually going a faster speed then the speed of light would be slowest. E=mc2 -> BOOM

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      Albert Einstein. wrote:

      then actually going a faster speed then the speed of light would be slowest

      Relatively speaking, of course. You can't make sweeping generalizations about space and time at those speeds, because you will always find equally correct views of the universe, which contradicts eachother. :)

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      • E ensger

        As we know, light speed is the fastest speed we know. But I have a question. What is the most slowly speed we know?

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        Rocky Moore
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        ensger wrote:

        What is the most slowly speed we know

        The time between when you order your computer and the time you receive it :) Rocky <>< Latest Post: Visual Studio 2005 Standard, whats missing? Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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        • I Ivor S Sargoytchev

          Hi Chris, Since speed is distance over time, shouldn't the lowest speed be the Planck length over the Planck time? Ivor S. Sargoytchev Dundas Software -- modified at 16:27 Saturday 24th June, 2006

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          Chris Maunder
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          No - it doesn't work like that :) Heisenberg's principle (in part) means dx.dp >= h_bar/2, where dx is uncertainty in position and dp is uncertainty in momentum. If we assume a unit mass then we have dx.dv >=h_bar/2. => dv >= h_bar/(2.dx) (h_bar = planck's constant / pi) So the bigger your uncertainty in exactly where you are, the less your uncertainty about your velocity. So you can say the velocity of an object is as close to 0 as you want. You just have no idea where you left it. cheers, Chris Maunder

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          • E ensger

            As we know, light speed is the fastest speed we know. But I have a question. What is the most slowly speed we know?

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            Chris Losinger
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            ensger wrote:

            What is the most slowly speed we know?

            the hour and a half after lunch Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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            • T Tad McClellan

              Albert Einstein had a thought that if you traveled backwards away from a clock faster then light speed you would actually be going back in time as the clock would turn backwards. The same thing is applied to if you see farther into the universe you are actually seeing further back in time as light takes time to travel. So if you equate going back in time to going a negitive velocity in terms of space time, then actually going a faster speed then the speed of light would be slowest. E=mc2 -> BOOM

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              Chris Maunder
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              Albert Einstein. wrote:

              if you traveled backwards away from a clock faster then light speed

              Well that's the trick, isn't it? All sorts of fun things happen if you just go faster than the speed of light. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                ensger wrote:

                What is the most slowly speed we know?

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Albert Einstein. wrote:

                  if you traveled backwards away from a clock faster then light speed

                  Well that's the trick, isn't it? All sorts of fun things happen if you just go faster than the speed of light. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  All sorts of fun things happen if you just go faster than the speed of light.

                  Did you ever reach c and beyond on your way down the alpes...? ;)

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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    All sorts of fun things happen if you just go faster than the speed of light.

                    Did you ever reach c and beyond on your way down the alpes...? ;)

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                    It felt like it today! We did Mont Ventoux[^] this morning and while the ascent hurt a little the descent - using the entire road since there was no traffic - was insane. I'm still trying to get the grin off my face. Galibier[^] on Monday. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      Graham Bradshaw wrote:

                      Velocity is simply speed with a direction component associated with it.

                      And that direction part is a vector that can have negative components. In one dimension you could have [-c]. So I'm with Chris on this one. Cheers, Drew.

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Drew Stainton wrote:

                      In one dimension you could have [-c].

                      Huh? How could that be?

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                        No - it doesn't work like that :) Heisenberg's principle (in part) means dx.dp >= h_bar/2, where dx is uncertainty in position and dp is uncertainty in momentum. If we assume a unit mass then we have dx.dv >=h_bar/2. => dv >= h_bar/(2.dx) (h_bar = planck's constant / pi) So the bigger your uncertainty in exactly where you are, the less your uncertainty about your velocity. So you can say the velocity of an object is as close to 0 as you want. You just have no idea where you left it. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        So you can say the velocity of an object is as close to 0 as you want. You just have no idea where you left it.

                        Sounds like a contradiction. :~

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                          ensger wrote:

                          What is above 0 and and slowly enough

                          How long is half a piece of string? ;)

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                            It felt like it today! We did Mont Ventoux[^] this morning and while the ascent hurt a little the descent - using the entire road since there was no traffic - was insane. I'm still trying to get the grin off my face. Galibier[^] on Monday. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            Gradient : 7.2% average - 11% maximum Insane! :-D

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                              Gradient : 7.2% average - 11% maximum Insane! :-D

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              We've done a few 15% and on Tuesday we're doing a stupid 2km, 24.5%. I just look inside for my happy place and hope my knees don't explode. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                No - it doesn't work like that :) Heisenberg's principle (in part) means dx.dp >= h_bar/2, where dx is uncertainty in position and dp is uncertainty in momentum. If we assume a unit mass then we have dx.dv >=h_bar/2. => dv >= h_bar/(2.dx) (h_bar = planck's constant / pi) So the bigger your uncertainty in exactly where you are, the less your uncertainty about your velocity. So you can say the velocity of an object is as close to 0 as you want. You just have no idea where you left it. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                Or dx.dp >= h_bar/2 where dp ~ m.dv so you get dx.dv >= h_bar/(2m) so the more massive a particle is the less uncertainty in the product of velocity and position. (I'm ignoring the uncertainty in mass) So probably the slowest measured velocity is from a heavy stable nuclus cooled to ultra low temperatures in a laser trap. I know in field theory you can actually calculate the mass of a particle is there a corresponding quantity similar to Energy-time, position-momentum, mass-????.


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                                • E ensger

                                  As we know, light speed is the fastest speed we know. But I have a question. What is the most slowly speed we know?

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                                  Andy Brummer
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                                  If I have to guess I'd say it would probably be a heavy nucleus trapped in a laser trap since Heisenburg's uncertainty principle relates position and momentum and momentum is mass times velocity. Which means heavy particles have a lower velocity uncertainty for a given position uncertainty. By definition every classical particle is at rest in it's own "rest frame", so 0 is a valid answer classically.


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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    So you can say the velocity of an object is as close to 0 as you want. You just have no idea where you left it.

                                    Sounds like a contradiction. :~

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                                    Welcome to quantum mechanics ;)

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                                      It felt like it today! We did Mont Ventoux[^] this morning and while the ascent hurt a little the descent - using the entire road since there was no traffic - was insane. I'm still trying to get the grin off my face. Galibier[^] on Monday. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                      Andy Brummer
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                                      Looks beautiful. Though slightly completely insane.


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                                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        All sorts of fun things happen if you just go faster than the speed of light.

                                        Did you ever reach c and beyond on your way down the alpes...? ;)

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                                        So if you travel faster than light you are doing C++? :laugh: The tigress is here :-D

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                                        • I Ivor S Sargoytchev

                                          Hi Chris, Since speed is distance over time, shouldn't the lowest speed be the Planck length over the Planck time? Ivor S. Sargoytchev Dundas Software -- modified at 16:27 Saturday 24th June, 2006

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