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    Roger Alsing 0
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    Ive decided to try a bit of java (for no reason what so ever , just bored) Ive tried eclipse, which seems to have a shitload of good features, but for some reason it doesnt feel right, I cant put my finger on it but it feels kind of slow'ish and menus flips and flops all over the place. What other IDE's are there for java and is there anyone of those which feels atleast a bit like VS.NET ? //Roger http://www.puzzleframework.com

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      Ive decided to try a bit of java (for no reason what so ever , just bored) Ive tried eclipse, which seems to have a shitload of good features, but for some reason it doesnt feel right, I cant put my finger on it but it feels kind of slow'ish and menus flips and flops all over the place. What other IDE's are there for java and is there anyone of those which feels atleast a bit like VS.NET ? //Roger http://www.puzzleframework.com

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      here at office, we develop in Java, and all our development process is based around Eclipse and eclipse plugins... actually, yes, it's a bit slow if your PC doesn't have enough RAM, ,but if you have enough (1GB is a minimum if you have several applications running in parallel), it's fairly good !!! for info, my config is WinXP Pro SP2 with P4 2.8GHz HT and 1.5GB of RAM...


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        here at office, we develop in Java, and all our development process is based around Eclipse and eclipse plugins... actually, yes, it's a bit slow if your PC doesn't have enough RAM, ,but if you have enough (1GB is a minimum if you have several applications running in parallel), it's fairly good !!! for info, my config is WinXP Pro SP2 with P4 2.8GHz HT and 1.5GB of RAM...


        TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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        toxcct wrote:

        yes, it's a bit slow

        Yes Java is slow, if you are going to work with it, get over it. :-D

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          toxcct wrote:

          yes, it's a bit slow

          Yes Java is slow, if you are going to work with it, get over it. :-D

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          led mike wrote:

          if you are going to work with it, get over it.

          that's dumb statement. when the customer tell you to use Java, then you use Java, because the customer is King, and he pays for it...


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            Ive decided to try a bit of java (for no reason what so ever , just bored) Ive tried eclipse, which seems to have a shitload of good features, but for some reason it doesnt feel right, I cant put my finger on it but it feels kind of slow'ish and menus flips and flops all over the place. What other IDE's are there for java and is there anyone of those which feels atleast a bit like VS.NET ? //Roger http://www.puzzleframework.com

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            Chris Austin
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            I personally prefer IntelliJ[^]. It completely outclasses Eclipse and Sun's java studio thing. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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              Ive decided to try a bit of java (for no reason what so ever , just bored) Ive tried eclipse, which seems to have a shitload of good features, but for some reason it doesnt feel right, I cant put my finger on it but it feels kind of slow'ish and menus flips and flops all over the place. What other IDE's are there for java and is there anyone of those which feels atleast a bit like VS.NET ? //Roger http://www.puzzleframework.com

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              It's been years since I turned my back on Java, but when I was using is I was using a free IDE called Forte. I remember it being good, but I think I remember if being more like the Delphi 4 IDE then the VS IDE. Might be worth googling it to see if it's still around...


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                Ive decided to try a bit of java (for no reason what so ever , just bored) Ive tried eclipse, which seems to have a shitload of good features, but for some reason it doesnt feel right, I cant put my finger on it but it feels kind of slow'ish and menus flips and flops all over the place. What other IDE's are there for java and is there anyone of those which feels atleast a bit like VS.NET ? //Roger http://www.puzzleframework.com

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                I really like Borland's JBuilder.

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                  led mike wrote:

                  if you are going to work with it, get over it.

                  that's dumb statement. when the customer tell you to use Java, then you use Java, because the customer is King, and he pays for it...


                  TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                  led mike
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                  :confused: that's what I said. If you are using Java, get over the fact that it is slow and do the work.

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                    :confused: that's what I said. If you are using Java, get over the fact that it is slow and do the work.

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                    He's obviously upset he has to use Java. I can't really blame him. :-D Jeremy Falcon

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                      :confused: that's what I said. If you are using Java, get over the fact that it is slow and do the work.

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                      ahh, didn't get it like that... so many people here say "get over it", but think "Do C# instead"... nevermind, lol :-D


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                        I personally prefer IntelliJ[^]. It completely outclasses Eclipse and Sun's java studio thing. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                        Chris Austin wrote:

                        I personally prefer IntelliJ[^].

                        I second that. Alvaro


                        The bible was written when people were even more stupid than they are today. Can you imagine that? - David Cross

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                          Ive decided to try a bit of java (for no reason what so ever , just bored) Ive tried eclipse, which seems to have a shitload of good features, but for some reason it doesnt feel right, I cant put my finger on it but it feels kind of slow'ish and menus flips and flops all over the place. What other IDE's are there for java and is there anyone of those which feels atleast a bit like VS.NET ? //Roger http://www.puzzleframework.com

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                          Try Netbeans.

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                            He's obviously upset he has to use Java. I can't really blame him. :-D Jeremy Falcon

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                            X| if only you could knew what we do with java !!!


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                              X| if only you could knew what we do with java !!!


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                              Hopefully shove it up a hole that you didn't know you had :rolleyes:


                              Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed

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                                toxcct wrote:

                                yes, it's a bit slow

                                Yes Java is slow, if you are going to work with it, get over it. :-D

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                                led mike wrote:

                                Yes Java is slow, if you are going to work with it, get over it.

                                From http://www.cutthecrap.biz/software/whitepapers/history.html[^] "Enter Java My first java project involved persistent knowledge representation. The idea was to build a persistent system that mapped to a relational database, and allowed convenient navigation of knowledge structures. That was fine in itself, but I was keen to convert my C++ system to see how much slower java was. It was just an exercise, I had no expectation that the system would be usable. It didn't take long, and I was hugely surprised at the performance I got from java. Wow! At last a system with automatic memory management that I may be allowed to use commercially! It may be sad, but I was really excited. After a few weeks I could demonstrate that my native java persistent object system had far better performance than one based on a relational database. We continued developing java systems for a couple of years and then the team folded. At this point I began developing the Cut The Crap Software." Kevin

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                                  I personally prefer IntelliJ[^]. It completely outclasses Eclipse and Sun's java studio thing. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                                  Kevin McFarlane
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                                  I don't use Java but a colleague rates this IDE too. Kevin

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                                    I really like Borland's JBuilder.

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                                    FYI: Borland is basing their next JBuilder on Eclipse.

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                                      Hopefully shove it up a hole that you didn't know you had :rolleyes:


                                      Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed

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                                      Jeremy Falcon
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                                      Ed.Poore wrote:

                                      Hopefully shove it up a hole that you didn't know you had

                                      LMAO!!!! You just made my day. Jeremy Falcon

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                                        X| if only you could knew what we do with java !!!


                                        TOXCCT >>> GEII power

                                        [VisualCalc 3.0  updated ][Flags Beginner's Guide  new! ]

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        toxcct wrote:

                                        if only you could knew what we do with java !!!

                                        Bull. I've worked with Java devs before. J2EE/Java is no more feature rich than .NET and yet it manages to be 20 times slower. Jeremy Falcon

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                                          FYI: Borland is basing their next JBuilder on Eclipse.

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                                          Ed Poore
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                                          This reminds me of the Queen song, Another one bites the dust.


                                          Formula 1 - Short for "F1 Racing" - named after the standard "help" key in Windows, it's a sport where participants desperately search through software help files trying to find actual documentation. It's tedious and somewhat cruel, most matches ending in a draw as no participant is able to find anything helpful. - Shog9 Ed

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