Football is Haram too apparently
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No, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. You know - the guy who saved you from becoming a Nazi. "You get that which you tolerate"
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OMG are falling for Rachel the pancake? Speaking of photo ops gone wrong. Let's see, you walk in front of a bulldozer where the operator cannot see you, and you wonder why you were run over? It's all evolution. Thank God her genes are pernamently excluded from the human race. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
like fighting to survive?
Israel is fighting to survive, but so are the Palestinians. Sending helicopter gunships to blow people up is effectively the same as sending young people wearing explosives. Neither is in the right. The Roadmap to Peace was a fantastic idea because it was balanced. I'm surprised and impressed that the US government thought of it and (in my opinion) it's the fault of the people in the Middle East that it didn't work.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
never happen - the world owes them a debt, thanks to Hitler.
You'd think that after their whole culture was persucuted by the Nazis that the Jews would be more understanding, but it seems that they are doing the same thing Hitler did. That's hypocrisy and using guilt over the Holocaust does not excuse it.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
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Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
but so are the Palestinians
wrong. if anything these people have a death wish.
Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
Sending helicopter gunships to blow people up is effectively the same as sending young people wearing explosives.
I'm still laughing - why don't we save them all the trouble: load'em up in 'copters and drop'em off in a convenient location.
Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
Nazis that the Jews would be more understanding
they are more understanding, they realize evil has to be confronted immediately.
Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
That's hypocrisy and using guilt over the Holocaust does not excuse it.
no hypocrisy, no guilt - just well honed survival instincts. Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors.
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OMG are falling for Rachel the pancake? Speaking of photo ops gone wrong. Let's see, you walk in front of a bulldozer where the operator cannot see you, and you wonder why you were run over? It's all evolution. Thank God her genes are pernamently excluded from the human race. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
like fighting to survive?
Israel is fighting to survive, but so are the Palestinians. Sending helicopter gunships to blow people up is effectively the same as sending young people wearing explosives. Neither is in the right. The Roadmap to Peace was a fantastic idea because it was balanced. I'm surprised and impressed that the US government thought of it and (in my opinion) it's the fault of the people in the Middle East that it didn't work.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
never happen - the world owes them a debt, thanks to Hitler.
You'd think that after their whole culture was persucuted by the Nazis that the Jews would be more understanding, but it seems that they are doing the same thing Hitler did. That's hypocrisy and using guilt over the Holocaust does not excuse it.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
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Ethiopa has a long history of fighting the Jihad, despite their apparent dispensation due to saving some of Mohammed's followers. A Taliban state in Somalia isn't going to go down well. http://k47.pbase.com/v3/87/314587/2/51576989.FrescoofStGeorge.jpg[^] Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
Ryan Roberts wrote:
A Taliban state in Somalia isn't going to go down well.
Taliban State, this has to be seen. The radical islamism of the UIC is worrying, but it does not mean they will turn to Al-Qaeda supporters. Somalia might even been a safer place now regarding hosting terrorist groups than when it was a 'no-law area'. At least now there could a government responsible for what happens in Somalia. The example of Afghanistan might help them not to do the same mistakes.
It is easier to make war than to make peace. Fold with us! ¤ flickr
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Ryan Roberts wrote:
A Taliban state in Somalia isn't going to go down well.
Taliban State, this has to be seen. The radical islamism of the UIC is worrying, but it does not mean they will turn to Al-Qaeda supporters. Somalia might even been a safer place now regarding hosting terrorist groups than when it was a 'no-law area'. At least now there could a government responsible for what happens in Somalia. The example of Afghanistan might help them not to do the same mistakes.
It is easier to make war than to make peace. Fold with us! ¤ flickr
Call me a pessimist[^], but that isn't a good start. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
they are doing the same thing Hitler did
There are certainly some hard line Jews who would like every Arab removed form Palestine. But I dont think the will go about it with Zyklon B. Of course, the fact that Mein Kampf is one of the most popular books in Palestine isnt helping the situation. Tronché pas ma miche! -- modified at 8:38 Thursday 6th July, 2006
fat_boy wrote:
There are certainly some hard line Jews who would like every Arab removed form Palestine. But I dont think the will go about it with Zyklon B.
That's what I mean. I realize the Jews aren't building another Auschwitz, but they are persecuting, killing, building walls, taking homes and so on from a group of people based on their race.
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fat_boy wrote:
There are certainly some hard line Jews who would like every Arab removed form Palestine. But I dont think the will go about it with Zyklon B.
That's what I mean. I realize the Jews aren't building another Auschwitz, but they are persecuting, killing, building walls, taking homes and so on from a group of people based on their race.
Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
people based on their race.
Good lord! It is hardly Israel's fault that people of that "race" are trying to destroy their country. "You get that which you tolerate"
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Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
let's send over a few troops to kick some Islamofacist ass!
When you're right, you're right. We should indeed. In fact, it would probably have been a great idea to have attacked Somalia first. We could have armed and trained the indiginous population there, and used them to invade Afganistan and Iraq. I'm sure they would have loved a little tit-for-tat. "You get that which you tolerate"
Since the warlords there have had support from outsiders (research the source yourself). The tigress is here :-D
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fat_boy wrote:
There are certainly some hard line Jews who would like every Arab removed form Palestine. But I dont think the will go about it with Zyklon B.
That's what I mean. I realize the Jews aren't building another Auschwitz, but they are persecuting, killing, building walls, taking homes and so on from a group of people based on their race.
Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
but they are persecuting, killing, building walls, taking homes and so on from a group of people based on their race.
Got any proof? How about a link for each: persecuting based on race. killing based on race. taking homes based on race. And remember, building a wall to keep terrorist OUT is not the same as building a wall to inprision someone. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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kgaddy wrote:
Rachel the pancake
Man that is so tasteless. Cheap, really cheap. You have never sunk this low before. Tronché pas ma miche!
How? because She jumped in front of a bulldozer we are supposed to feel bad for her when she was flattened? What did she expect? When I watch videos of people doing stupid shit I have the same reaction. When you do stupid things and die as the result, you can expect such reactions from me. Kinda like the man who went up to the polar bear to pet it and was attacked. Stupid, stupid people. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Stan Shannon wrote:
it were not for the single minded Islamic will to destroy Israel.
That is just one dimension of the conflict, and that might be changing Palestinian resistance/terrorism/insurgence is not islamist only. PLO recognized Israel’s right to exist for the first time, in 1988 but it didn't ensure the creation of Palestine either.
It is easier to make war than to make peace. Fold with us! ¤ flickr
Thats because as Arafat was talking peace he was still attacking Israel. "There was a working assumption in the United States that Arafat's declaration of December 1988, in which he grudgingly recognized Israel and renounced terrorism, signified a long-term change PLO policy, and was not just tactical. Yet the inflamed rhetoric and violent activities of the PLO continued while Arafat talked peace. " Link So yea, you right, there are 2 sides to the story. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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fat_boy wrote:
So what is an FDR complex?
It is closely related to the "Greatest Generation" complex. Essentially, it is a form of mental disorder than compels one to try to be the next great liberator of humanity. "You get that which you tolerate"
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fat_boy wrote:
So what is an FDR complex?
It is closely related to the "Greatest Generation" complex. Essentially, it is a form of mental disorder than compels one to try to be the next great liberator of humanity. "You get that which you tolerate"
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Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
people based on their race.
Good lord! It is hardly Israel's fault that people of that "race" are trying to destroy their country. "You get that which you tolerate"
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Daniel R Ferguson wrote:
but they are persecuting, killing, building walls, taking homes and so on from a group of people based on their race.
Got any proof? How about a link for each: persecuting based on race. killing based on race. taking homes based on race. And remember, building a wall to keep terrorist OUT is not the same as building a wall to inprision someone. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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How? because She jumped in front of a bulldozer we are supposed to feel bad for her when she was flattened? What did she expect? When I watch videos of people doing stupid shit I have the same reaction. When you do stupid things and die as the result, you can expect such reactions from me. Kinda like the man who went up to the polar bear to pet it and was attacked. Stupid, stupid people. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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At least on TV[^]. So, how long until the next round of wailing and moaning about imperialist aggression? Or maybe we can sit on our collective arses for the next 10 years like we did with Afghanistan, while the majority of human rights NGO's bang on about Israel running the Merkavas too loud and keeping the terrorists awake. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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Oh quite. Each side is as bad as the other. Perhaps the Arab is a more fervent activist. The Jew is more cynical and calculating in his actions. But hatred, intent, and action exist on both sides in similar proportions. Tronché pas ma miche!
fat_boy wrote:
Perhaps the Arab is a more fervent activist.
Arab anger over the issue is entirely justified. They were victims of Western aggresion in the past and Israel is an example of a modern version of it (although historically they were certainly as aggressive mililtarily as any western power was). However, that does not excuse the tactics they employ to deal with that situation.
fat_boy wrote:
The Jew is more cynical and calculating in his actions.
Apparently you didn't need Hitler's help to become a Nazi. "You get that which you tolerate"
