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Marc Clifton wrote:
It often results in superficial emotional highs by both parties.
I assume you are right about this, but I do not understand it yet. Thanks for giving me something to meditate on, Marc. :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
Josh Smith wrote:
Thanks for giving me something to meditate on, Marc.
:) Not to push your girlfriend's buttons, but "being needed" is an often unconscious ingredient to "falling in love". ;) Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
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I must be one of the lucky ones. I'm not directly a developr like your selves, i'm primarily a Network and I.T Technician, although I rarely do any work to forfil the title but i also build in-house software for the company i work for, which takes up 99% of my time. Since it's in-house theres no meetings etc which you'd expect, I get told what they want, I build it, they use it, and if somethings wrong, I make the changes and release the update. Unfortunately I am one of those people that enjoy getting up at 6am to goto work everyday, although I look forward to going home every night as well. Since i'm a web developer by hobby, I was really happy to find out i'd be getting paid for doing it. Although I now do alot less work at home compared to before i worked here. Does anyone else find that true? Once a hobby becomes a job, it's no longer a hobby?
Gav_Roberts2k5 wrote:
Once a hobby becomes a job, it's no longer a hobby?
Not me. It just becomes a hobby that happens to earn money, as opposed to most hobbies, which can be money pits. :) Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
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You're lucky, there are a lot of people that I know, who aren't happy with their job and a lot of them are devs. I'm happy with my job, eventhough it doesn't pay that well. I get to do what I am good at, in a company that has a great working atmosphere. And besides, I work one day of the week while studying four days. A lot of students aren't that lucky to have a job in the area of their study. WM.
What about weapons of mass-construction?WillemM wrote:
there are a lot of people that I know, who aren't happy with their job and a lot of them are devs
I've heard of them before, but am yet to meet a dev who doesn't like writing code. It boggles my mind, why on Earth would one put up with the hellish torments of debugging if they didn't enjoy the pain (oh baby, debugging hurts so good)? Just for the $$$ ? Man, that's a crazy thing to do. :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
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I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
I agree, 100%. Being a developer rocks. However, when I saw the header, my first thought was that I walked forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie A brand new house on the road side, and it's a-made out of rattlesnake hide Got a band new chimney put on top, and it's a-made out of human skull Come on take a little walk with me baby, and tell me who do you love? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Gav_Roberts2k5 wrote:
Once a hobby becomes a job, it's no longer a hobby?
Not me. It just becomes a hobby that happens to earn money, as opposed to most hobbies, which can be money pits. :) Marc Pensieve
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
I still work solo for a few projects, but since working here, I mainly build windows/ppc apps and very rarely work on web apps, which is my main exposure. I've just lost that motivation that I used to have, mainly because i get paid to do it during the day. Also, i've spent more time with my children since working here lol... My main project is to release my article but can't really think of how to word it. Gav
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I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
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I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
Damn right. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
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People are just notoriously impossible. My first job in high school was at a popular fast-food restaurant. The teens working there wanted a job so they could earn some spending money, but then complained the whole time they were at work saying they would rather be out cruising around. That spirit still exists today. On a similar note, when folks talk about the weather, they are never satisfied. After a long dry spell, they start hopping for rain. The moment it rains, they are hoping it clears off. After its' clear for a while, they start hoping for rain again. The same holds true for cold/hot. If it's one, they want the other. Gripe, gripe, gripe... You know you enjoy your vocation when you enjoy getting up early Monday to go to work.
"Money talks. When my money starts to talk, I get a bill to shut it up." - Frank
"Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb
It's people with that mindset that keep us in work though. One year they want etched toolbars, the next year they've got to be flat...
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Yeah I know, pity its not as simple as sitting down a wacking out code anymore... Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch
Ray Kinsella wrote:
pity its not as simple as sitting down a wacking out code anymore
ummm it never was :sigh:
"Just about every question you've asked over the last 3-4 days has been "urgent". Perhaps a little planning would be helpful?"
Colin Angus Mackay in the C# forumled mike
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Josh Smith wrote:
Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job.
I've had the same reaction telling people what you told your friend. What is it that makes people hate their jobs? The job itself? The people they work with? The people they work for? Maybe it's having to work with CListCtrl. ;P I think a lot of people here on CP do like their jobs though. But again, is it the job, the people, both? Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Marc Clifton wrote:
What is it that makes people hate their jobs? The job itself? The people they work with?
It can be either or both. For example riding on a garbage truck all day is not a good fit for some people. On the other hand one can be in a line of work they could love but the environment (people) sucks.
"Just about every question you've asked over the last 3-4 days has been "urgent". Perhaps a little planning would be helpful?"
Colin Angus Mackay in the C# forumled mike
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It's people with that mindset that keep us in work though. One year they want etched toolbars, the next year they've got to be flat...
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I agree, 100%. Being a developer rocks. However, when I saw the header, my first thought was that I walked forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie A brand new house on the road side, and it's a-made out of rattlesnake hide Got a band new chimney put on top, and it's a-made out of human skull Come on take a little walk with me baby, and tell me who do you love? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Josh Smith wrote:
is more rewarding if you feel like the company really needs you. I
Aye, but that's treading on a dangerous dependency, I think. It sure does feel good to be needed, but over the years, I've learned that being needed is not all that great. It often results in superficial emotional highs by both parties. For me, nowadays, job satisfaction has more to do with the quality that I put into the job rather than what other people think of it, do with it, etc. It decouples my job satisfaction from both the strokers and the jokers, if you will. And frankly, being needed places the company in a dangerous situation. The expertise is needed, but the reliance for that expertise on a single individual is a red flag, though often unavoidable. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
Marc Clifton wrote:
superficial emotional highs by both parties
I've just experienced all that, when I told my current company that I'm leaving them. Their reaction and the things said had surprised me...unpleasantly (is that a word?). It was an emotional reaction that felt over my professional acomplishments in the form of a subjective oppinion. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.
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Ray Kinsella wrote:
pity its not as simple as sitting down a wacking out code anymore...
Tell that to... (oh, I better not say it!) Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
The "Career Programmer" perhaps ? :) Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch
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I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
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You're lucky, there are a lot of people that I know, who aren't happy with their job and a lot of them are devs. I'm happy with my job, eventhough it doesn't pay that well. I get to do what I am good at, in a company that has a great working atmosphere. And besides, I work one day of the week while studying four days. A lot of students aren't that lucky to have a job in the area of their study. WM.
What about weapons of mass-construction?I was also lucky enough to land a job writing software while I'm in school. I've learned so much being "in the field" and I learn more every day. As someone who picked a Computer Science major out of the hat because I liked gaming, I must say that I'm very glad that I have the opportunity to write code that gets used on a day to day basis. I even like it when some of the users call just to gripe about why something doesn't work the way they wanted it to, it gives me a chance to look into doing something new with the application. On top of that I have a boss that is literally the best programmer I've met and is always willing to answer my many questions and give me very tidy snippets of code to replace my rookie ramblings. (-: Signature under Construction :-) Lil Turtle
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I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
But no one will pay me for it yet. (I still like getting off before 6) A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
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Ray Kinsella wrote:
pity its not as simple as sitting down a wacking out code anymore...
Tell that to... (oh, I better not say it!) Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
:laugh::laugh::laugh: - Anders My new photo website[^]
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I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
I'm doing software QA these days and don't often get a chance to 'get my hands dirty' but yes, I do enjoy my job. A lot of this is due to the environment and good management. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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WillemM wrote:
there are a lot of people that I know, who aren't happy with their job and a lot of them are devs
I've heard of them before, but am yet to meet a dev who doesn't like writing code. It boggles my mind, why on Earth would one put up with the hellish torments of debugging if they didn't enjoy the pain (oh baby, debugging hurts so good)? Just for the $$$ ? Man, that's a crazy thing to do. :josh: My WPF Blog[^]
Josh Smith wrote:
oh baby, debugging hurts so good
*Elaine quietly tiptoes away* :~ The tigress is here :-D