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  • M Marc Clifton

    Josh Smith wrote:

    Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job.

    I've had the same reaction telling people what you told your friend. What is it that makes people hate their jobs? The job itself? The people they work with? The people they work for? Maybe it's having to work with CListCtrl. ;P I think a lot of people here on CP do like their jobs though. But again, is it the job, the people, both? Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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    led mike
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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    What is it that makes people hate their jobs? The job itself? The people they work with?

    It can be either or both. For example riding on a garbage truck all day is not a good fit for some people. On the other hand one can be in a line of work they could love but the environment (people) sucks.

    "Just about every question you've asked over the last 3-4 days has been "urgent". Perhaps a little planning would be helpful?"
    Colin Angus Mackay in the C# forum

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    • S Simon Capewell

      It's people with that mindset that keep us in work though. One year they want etched toolbars, the next year they've got to be flat...

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      :laugh::laugh:

      "Just about every question you've asked over the last 3-4 days has been "urgent". Perhaps a little planning would be helpful?"
      Colin Angus Mackay in the C# forum

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      • C Christian Graus

        I agree, 100%. Being a developer rocks. However, when I saw the header, my first thought was that I walked forty-seven miles of barbed wire, I got a cobra snake for a necktie A brand new house on the road side, and it's a-made out of rattlesnake hide Got a band new chimney put on top, and it's a-made out of human skull Come on take a little walk with me baby, and tell me who do you love? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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        george thuroughgood

        "Just about every question you've asked over the last 3-4 days has been "urgent". Perhaps a little planning would be helpful?"
        Colin Angus Mackay in the C# forum

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Josh Smith wrote:

          is more rewarding if you feel like the company really needs you. I

          Aye, but that's treading on a dangerous dependency, I think. It sure does feel good to be needed, but over the years, I've learned that being needed is not all that great. It often results in superficial emotional highs by both parties. For me, nowadays, job satisfaction has more to do with the quality that I put into the job rather than what other people think of it, do with it, etc. It decouples my job satisfaction from both the strokers and the jokers, if you will. And frankly, being needed places the company in a dangerous situation. The expertise is needed, but the reliance for that expertise on a single individual is a red flag, though often unavoidable. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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          Mircea Grelus
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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          superficial emotional highs by both parties

          I've just experienced all that, when I told my current company that I'm leaving them. Their reaction and the things said had surprised me...unpleasantly (is that a word?). It was an emotional reaction that felt over my professional acomplishments in the form of a subjective oppinion. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Ray Kinsella wrote:

            pity its not as simple as sitting down a wacking out code anymore...

            Tell that to... (oh, I better not say it!) Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            Ray Kinsella
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            The "Career Programmer" perhaps ? :) Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch

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            • J Josh Smith

              I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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              Absolutely. Keep things in perspective "no worries"!

              "Just about every question you've asked over the last 3-4 days has been "urgent". Perhaps a little planning would be helpful?"
              Colin Angus Mackay in the C# forum

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              • W WillemM

                You're lucky, there are a lot of people that I know, who aren't happy with their job and a lot of them are devs. I'm happy with my job, eventhough it doesn't pay that well. I get to do what I am good at, in a company that has a great working atmosphere. And besides, I work one day of the week while studying four days. A lot of students aren't that lucky to have a job in the area of their study. WM.
                What about weapons of mass-construction?

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                I was also lucky enough to land a job writing software while I'm in school. I've learned so much being "in the field" and I learn more every day. As someone who picked a Computer Science major out of the hat because I liked gaming, I must say that I'm very glad that I have the opportunity to write code that gets used on a day to day basis. I even like it when some of the users call just to gripe about why something doesn't work the way they wanted it to, it gives me a chance to look into doing something new with the application. On top of that I have a boss that is literally the best programmer I've met and is always willing to answer my many questions and give me very tidy snippets of code to replace my rookie ramblings. (-: Signature under Construction :-) Lil Turtle

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                • J Josh Smith

                  I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  But no one will pay me for it yet. (I still like getting off before 6) A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Ray Kinsella wrote:

                    pity its not as simple as sitting down a wacking out code anymore...

                    Tell that to... (oh, I better not say it!) Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                    :laugh::laugh::laugh: - Anders My new photo website[^]

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                    • J Josh Smith

                      I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                      I'm doing software QA these days and don't often get a chance to 'get my hands dirty' but yes, I do enjoy my job. A lot of this is due to the environment and good management. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                      • J Josh Smith

                        WillemM wrote:

                        there are a lot of people that I know, who aren't happy with their job and a lot of them are devs

                        I've heard of them before, but am yet to meet a dev who doesn't like writing code. It boggles my mind, why on Earth would one put up with the hellish torments of debugging if they didn't enjoy the pain (oh baby, debugging hurts so good)? Just for the $$$ ? Man, that's a crazy thing to do. :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                        Josh Smith wrote:

                        oh baby, debugging hurts so good

                        *Elaine quietly tiptoes away* :~ The tigress is here :-D

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                        • D David Crow

                          People are just notoriously impossible. My first job in high school was at a popular fast-food restaurant. The teens working there wanted a job so they could earn some spending money, but then complained the whole time they were at work saying they would rather be out cruising around. That spirit still exists today. On a similar note, when folks talk about the weather, they are never satisfied. After a long dry spell, they start hopping for rain. The moment it rains, they are hoping it clears off. After its' clear for a while, they start hoping for rain again. The same holds true for cold/hot. If it's one, they want the other. Gripe, gripe, gripe... You know you enjoy your vocation when you enjoy getting up early Monday to go to work.


                          "Money talks. When my money starts to talk, I get a bill to shut it up." - Frank

                          "Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb

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                          I remember a plaque that hung on the wall at my grandfather's house, it read: When its wet we want it hot When its hot we want it wet Whatever it is we want its not Just trying to keep the forces of entropy at bay

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                          • J Josh Smith

                            I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                            Ashley van Gerven
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                            It's even better if you get to work with the technologies & apps you're interested in, and get paid well, and work with other enthusiastic developers. Oh and did I mention minimal stress. OK now I'm just dreaming :D I doubt most developers have all these boxes ticked, but if you've got a few of them you'd have to be stoked!

                            "Nothing ever changes by staying the same." - David Brent (BBC's The Office)

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                            • J Josh Smith

                              I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                              It's funny, when people learn I telecommute and write and sell software for a living they say it must be a dream job and are jealous, but the only people who really understand how much work it is are other business owners. It *is* a dream job for me, but I bet a lot of people would hate it if they don't like the business aspect.

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                                Josh Smith wrote:

                                oh baby, debugging hurts so good

                                *Elaine quietly tiptoes away* :~ The tigress is here :-D

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                                Trollslayer wrote:

                                *Elaine quietly tiptoes away*

                                :laugh: :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                                • J Josh Smith

                                  I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                                  Josh Smith wrote:

                                  We are lucky people, us devs. Count your blessings, my friends!!

                                  I've often thought the same thing. I don't think there is any other profession that I'd be this satisfied with and I'm truly glad I found this niche. Although I don't get to do much coding these days, I find I am at my happiest when I'm immersed with a programming project. The hours just fly by and I actually look forward to going to work.

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    Josh Smith wrote:

                                    Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job.

                                    I've had the same reaction telling people what you told your friend. What is it that makes people hate their jobs? The job itself? The people they work with? The people they work for? Maybe it's having to work with CListCtrl. ;P I think a lot of people here on CP do like their jobs though. But again, is it the job, the people, both? Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                    Chris S Kaiser
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                                    A little of both. When the people are enjoyable I love my job. When they aren't and the process is too thick, and politics are a hassle, then I don't love the job, but still love the work. This statement is false.

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                                    • J Josh Smith

                                      I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                                      In my opinion there couldnt be a better job then programing :) Of course others would argue with me...but most programers would agree. I think its because it is a job that makes you use most of your skills all at the same time, and then produces a product that can be used by others. Every time a major piece of code is finished, we walk away with a feeling of acomplishment. I think most jobs that people like having do the same thing. Like being a doctor, a scientist, a mechanic, etc. We want to do SOMETHING that will give us a sence of accomplishment and will help others at the same time. P.S. PROGRAMING IS GR-EAT...as Tony the Tiger would say ;) Pablo www.aes4you.com

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                                      • J Josh Smith

                                        I had a conversation yesterday with a long-time buddy of mine. We hadn't spoken for a few years, and it was great to catch up with him. Eventually the conversation lead to what we do for work these days. I told him that I write software, love it, and get paid handsomely for it. He was dumbfounded. Told me that I'm the only person he knows who actually likes his job. I was dumbfounded! We are lucky people, us devs. :-D Count your blessings, my friends!! :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                                        I'm so in love with what I do. I'd do it for free as a hobby and still love it. In fact I do charity work for free (I think everyone should.) and it brings me more joy than anything. Great post man!!! You've only been here a while or you just came back but I'm really starting to like your style. Come to Boise let me know. I'll buy you lunch... Did you know I'm a manager?:laugh: A big fat 5 for you.


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                                        When I'm serious they think I'm joking.
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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Josh Smith wrote:

                                          Thanks for giving me something to meditate on, Marc.

                                          :) Not to push your girlfriend's buttons, but "being needed" is an often unconscious ingredient to "falling in love". ;) Marc Pensieve

                                          Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

                                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow

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                                          In my case, it usually means I've hooked with a dysfunctional, co-dependent :-D who is going to feel threatened and abandoned when I go to work everyday and won't understand that I need to finish a feature or bug fix before I come home or I'll be thinking about it all night.

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