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  • V Vivi Chellappa

    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    With this sort of foolish internet censorship,we are going the China route

    It will be OK if we are finally able to turn Indians into hard-working automatons like the Chinese have done with their population. But I am afraid that Internet censorship will be used only to filter out ideas and thoughts that the government doesn't want its citizens to read and to make all of India into your home state of Kerala, where everyone will be more leftwing than Karl Marx or Mao Tse Tung. I think you IT guys need to fulfill the government's wish: Organize unions, go on strike, and have the Americans move their IT business to China. Then, like factory workers in India, you can also starve.

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    Vivic wrote:

    But I am afraid that Internet censorship will be used only to filter out ideas and thoughts that the government doesn't want its citizens to read and to make all of India into your home state of Kerala, where everyone will be more leftwing than Karl Marx or Mao Tse Tung.

    Not everyone in Kerala is left-wing. Problem is, outside of the Congress, the Marxist party is the only other alternative. A quasi-communal religion-based party like the BJP will never be accepted by Keralites.

    Vivic wrote:

    I think you IT guys need to fulfill the government's wish: Organize unions, go on strike, and have the Americans move their IT business to China. Then, like factory workers in India, you can also starve.

    Uhm, I don't see how this inference (that the govt wants IT people to go into a strike) was made from Internet censorship. :~ Btw, are you of Indian origin? Regards, Nish


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    • R Ryan Roberts

      That really is dreadful. That list is not good company. Hopefully, your leaders will recant. You would think the technology sector in India had a bit of political weight by now. Ryan

      "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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      Ryan Roberts wrote:

      That really is dreadful. That list is not good company. Hopefully, your leaders will recant. You would think the technology sector in India had a bit of political weight by now.

      The govt has made a similarly stupid decision a couple of years ago when they banned the entire YahooGroups domain because "1" group had anti-India propaganda. The end-result was that, that particular group which probably received less than 10 visitors a day, got hit by 100 of 1000s of views via proxy servers :-) Regards, Nish


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      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

        So this is how the Indian Govt fights terrorism? :| Cheers, Vikram.


        "I am not Jesus and will never be. The fact is I was a piece of cr*p till I found Him." - Paul Selormey.

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        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

        So this is how the Indian Govt fights terrorism?

        Actually, I don't know what's behind this silly decision. Did some anti-India guy post an anti-India blog on Blogspot? Regards, Nish


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          You can get to Blogspot using :- http://www.inblogs.net/[^] or http://www.pkblogs.com/[^] I like it how they've grouped India with Pak, China, and Iran :- Is your blog blocked in India, Pakistan, Iran or China? Cannot blame them. With this sort of foolish internet censorship,we are going the China route :sigh: Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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          Michael P Butler
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          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

          I like it how they've grouped India with Pak, China, and Iran :-

          Isn't that the Axis of Evil(tm)? :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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            Steve S wrote:

            Given the alleged reasons for blocking them (racist postings etc), it won't be too long before the contents of the soapbox means that CP itself gets blocked...

            Very possible. Sadly, the Indian government is computer illiterate :-( Regards, Nish


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            Lost User
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            Is freedom of speech a problem for Indian society, if so, to what extent are you allowed/disallowed

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              Is freedom of speech a problem for Indian society, if so, to what extent are you allowed/disallowed

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              Vikram A Punathambekar
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              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

              Is freedom of speech a problem for Indian society

              Generally it's not; we enjoy a lot of freedom. However, the Govt is full of idiots and sometimes goofs up like this. X| You can freely criticize the Govt and its policies. But if you make anti-national statements or abuse religions*, you might get into trouble. * Actually, you can get away with abusing Hinduism (the Chief Minister of the state I live in regularly does) but if you criticize Islam or Christianity you will be denounced, and probably arrested and prosecuted. Cheers, Vikram.


              "I am not Jesus and will never be. The fact is I was a piece of cr*p till I found Him." - Paul Selormey.

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                Ryan Roberts wrote:

                That really is dreadful. That list is not good company. Hopefully, your leaders will recant. You would think the technology sector in India had a bit of political weight by now.

                The govt has made a similarly stupid decision a couple of years ago when they banned the entire YahooGroups domain because "1" group had anti-India propaganda. The end-result was that, that particular group which probably received less than 10 visitors a day, got hit by 100 of 1000s of views via proxy servers :-) Regards, Nish


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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                they banned the entire YahooGroups domain

                You would think they would learn from, if not others' mistakes, at least their own; but... :| Cheers, Vikram.


                "I am not Jesus and will never be. The fact is I was a piece of cr*p till I found Him." - Paul Selormey.

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                  Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                  So this is how the Indian Govt fights terrorism?

                  Actually, I don't know what's behind this silly decision. Did some anti-India guy post an anti-India blog on Blogspot? Regards, Nish


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                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  Did some anti-India guy post an anti-India blog on Blogspot?

                  I couldn't care less about blogs, but give* me a break - surely in the millions of blogs in the blogosphere there must be hundreds that can be described as anti-[specific country/specific religion/specific other minority group]? * Rhetorical question. Don't think I'm asking you, Nish - that misunderstanding happened the other day. Cheers, Vikram.


                  "I am not Jesus and will never be. The fact is I was a piece of cr*p till I found Him." - Paul Selormey.

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                    So this is how the Indian Govt fights terrorism?

                    Actually, I don't know what's behind this silly decision. Did some anti-India guy post an anti-India blog on Blogspot? Regards, Nish


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                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    Did some anti-India guy post an anti-India blog on Blogspot?

                    I couldn't care less about blogs, but give* me a break - surely in the millions of blogs in the blogosphere there must be hundreds that can be described as anti-[specific country/specific religion/specific other minority group]? * Rhetorical question. Don't think I'm asking you, Nish - that misunderstanding happened the other day. Cheers, Vikram.


                    "I am not Jesus and will never be. The fact is I was a piece of cr*p till I found Him." - Paul Selormey.

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                      So this is how the Indian Govt fights terrorism?

                      Actually, I don't know what's behind this silly decision. Did some anti-India guy post an anti-India blog on Blogspot? Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      I don't know what's behind this silly decision.

                      But I know. I cant understand why do you get surprised with Congress Government's such decisions every time. It is their policy to make a maximum misuse of power. There are plenty of examples that Congress has taken such decisions against organizations, instutions, students, etc. whenever they have opened their mouth against their one sided policy. Cant you recall Emergency! This is the only problem with world's so called largest democracy that you have no freedom to speak. Really it is surprising that you dont know... X| Regards, Ketan.

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                      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        they banned the entire YahooGroups domain

                        You would think they would learn from, if not others' mistakes, at least their own; but... :| Cheers, Vikram.


                        "I am not Jesus and will never be. The fact is I was a piece of cr*p till I found Him." - Paul Selormey.

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                        You would think they would learn from, if not others' mistakes, at least their own; but...

                        Yeah, a pity really :-( Regards, Nish


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                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          Did some anti-India guy post an anti-India blog on Blogspot?

                          I couldn't care less about blogs, but give* me a break - surely in the millions of blogs in the blogosphere there must be hundreds that can be described as anti-[specific country/specific religion/specific other minority group]? * Rhetorical question. Don't think I'm asking you, Nish - that misunderstanding happened the other day. Cheers, Vikram.


                          "I am not Jesus and will never be. The fact is I was a piece of cr*p till I found Him." - Paul Selormey.

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                          Don't think I'm asking you, Nish - that misunderstanding happened the other day.

                          :-> Regards, Nish


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                          • M Michael P Butler

                            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                            I like it how they've grouped India with Pak, China, and Iran :-

                            Isn't that the Axis of Evil(tm)? :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            Michael P Butler wrote:

                            Isn't that the Axis of Evil(tm)?

                            LOL - yeah right, 3 of those 4 countries are probably a phone call away from going to war with each other! Regards, Nish


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                            • N Nish Nishant

                              You can get to Blogspot using :- http://www.inblogs.net/[^] or http://www.pkblogs.com/[^] I like it how they've grouped India with Pak, China, and Iran :- Is your blog blocked in India, Pakistan, Iran or China? Cannot blame them. With this sort of foolish internet censorship,we are going the China route :sigh: Regards, Nish


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                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                              I think India blocked only 22 blogs, not all the blogs.

                              Got Signature?

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                                I think India blocked only 22 blogs, not all the blogs.

                                Got Signature?

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Kant wrote:

                                I think India blocked only 22 blogs, not all the blogs.

                                Nope, most of the major ISPs (except VSNL) have blocked the entire domain. Regards, Nish


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                                  Steve S wrote:

                                  Given the alleged reasons for blocking them (racist postings etc), it won't be too long before the contents of the soapbox means that CP itself gets blocked...

                                  Very possible. Sadly, the Indian government is computer illiterate :-( Regards, Nish


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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  Sadly, the Indian government is computer illiterate

                                  and flavored by deep-rooted bureocratic red tapism coupled with corruption at its highest flare. :) :) Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage namespace LavanyaDeepak
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                                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                    So this is how the Indian Govt fights terrorism? :| Cheers, Vikram.


                                    "I am not Jesus and will never be. The fact is I was a piece of cr*p till I found Him." - Paul Selormey.

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                                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                    So this is how the Indian Govt fights terrorism?

                                    There is a tamil proverb which goes like 'Cajoling the crying child after deliberately pinching it thus provoking it to cry'. For Tamil CPians, here is the original proverb: "Kuzhandhaiya Killi Vittu, Thottilaiyum Aatra Maadhiri". There are so many latent supporters for the terror outfits within the government departments itself, which are so picturesquely portrayed in so many films. If only the government has the dare to bring in some cleaning up work thereto, the amount of terror strikes would come down drastically by at least 40%. Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage namespace LavanyaDeepak
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                                      I think India blocked only 22 blogs, not all the blogs.

                                      Got Signature?

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                                      An ISP claimed that they do not have a technical ability to block the URLs and hence they block entire domains. Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage namespace LavanyaDeepak
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                                      • N Nish Nishant

                                        Kant wrote:

                                        I think India blocked only 22 blogs, not all the blogs.

                                        Nope, most of the major ISPs (except VSNL) have blocked the entire domain. Regards, Nish


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                                        And I read in a weblog of Shivam, a blogger about what the reply one of the CERT IN Security Engineers have given him. That guy had replied let the affected people tell to us what they are losing in life by not able to access those websites. This is a typical testimony of the amount of arrogantness that has been seeded rampantly into the so called tyrant government servants. Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage namespace LavanyaDeepak
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                                        • K ketankumar

                                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                          I don't know what's behind this silly decision.

                                          But I know. I cant understand why do you get surprised with Congress Government's such decisions every time. It is their policy to make a maximum misuse of power. There are plenty of examples that Congress has taken such decisions against organizations, instutions, students, etc. whenever they have opened their mouth against their one sided policy. Cant you recall Emergency! This is the only problem with world's so called largest democracy that you have no freedom to speak. Really it is surprising that you dont know... X| Regards, Ketan.

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                                          One liner: Funny Government Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage namespace LavanyaDeepak
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