VC++ 6.0 [modified]
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That's wrong. At least it was. When I bought the student's license, you could sell software you wrote with it. I actually called Microsoft up and asked them about it, as I was doing side business when I went to university. They said "Sell as much as you want..." (but in Swedish ;P)
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I'd trust the EULA before I trusted some guy on the phone that probably barely knows what Visual C++ is. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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I'd trust the EULA before I trusted some guy on the phone that probably barely knows what Visual C++ is. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
The EULA did not prohibit me to sell software compiled with it. That's why I called them to make sure. The EULA was the same as for the regular professional version + the piece of paper that came in the box. I did pay for it, so it wasn't a freebe or anything like that. Just a CD, no books. :)
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The EULA did not prohibit me to sell software compiled with it. That's why I called them to make sure. The EULA was the same as for the regular professional version + the piece of paper that came in the box. I did pay for it, so it wasn't a freebe or anything like that. Just a CD, no books. :)
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The EULA did not prohibit me to sell software compiled with it. That's why I called them to make sure. The EULA was the same as for the regular professional version + the piece of paper that came in the box. I did pay for it, so it wasn't a freebe or anything like that. Just a CD, no books. :)
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Just a CD, no books.
BTW, the retail box comes with a book and 3 CDs for VC++ and more for VS. If you didn't get that, then your's was altered. Maybe they gave you the wrong EULA, who knows. Jeremy Falcon
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Hmm, wait. The CD's I have says version 5.0. :-O I still swear by though that there were no commercial restrictions for that copy I bought. The amendment I got in the box basically only stated that I could only use the software if I am a student. Maybe things have happened since? I wish I had saved the license. :( Also worth pointing out, is that there were no such thing as MSDN back then. What I got was a CD for the pro versions of Visual C++, Basic and J#.
-- The Show That Watches Back
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Hmm, wait. The CD's I have says version 5.0. :-O I still swear by though that there were no commercial restrictions for that copy I bought. The amendment I got in the box basically only stated that I could only use the software if I am a student. Maybe things have happened since? I wish I had saved the license. :( Also worth pointing out, is that there were no such thing as MSDN back then. What I got was a CD for the pro versions of Visual C++, Basic and J#.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Hmm, wait. The CD's I have says version 5.0.
It was no different for 5.0 either. In fact, back then VC++ flagged the EXEs it made with the Learning Editions, etc.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
I still swear by though that there were no commercial restrictions for that copy I bought
Perhaps you weren't sold the academic EULA then. Could've been a fault on the part of the place you bought it from. Most people don't know squat about it.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Also worth pointing out, is that there were no such thing as MSDN back then. What I got was a CD for the pro versions of Visual C++, Basic and J#.
Yes there was. I got MSDN Library CDs with both my 5.0 and 6.0 purchases. I didn't buy through a school though, it was through a store. Jeremy Falcon
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Just a CD, no books.
BTW, the retail box comes with a book and 3 CDs for VC++ and more for VS. If you didn't get that, then your's was altered. Maybe they gave you the wrong EULA, who knows. Jeremy Falcon
It wasn't a retail box. It was kind of like an OEM-version. Jewel CD cases, with only backside covers. No books, no nothing. The box was a brown cardboard box, suitable for mailing, which contained these 3 CDs only, and a piece of paper saying that I could only use the software if I was a student. I had to pay around 1500 SEK (close to $200) for the package.
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It wasn't a retail box. It was kind of like an OEM-version. Jewel CD cases, with only backside covers. No books, no nothing. The box was a brown cardboard box, suitable for mailing, which contained these 3 CDs only, and a piece of paper saying that I could only use the software if I was a student. I had to pay around 1500 SEK (close to $200) for the package.
-- Fun for the whole family - except grandma and grandpa
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
It was kind of like an OEM-version.
You sure it wasn't the blackmarket version? :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Hmm, wait. The CD's I have says version 5.0.
It was no different for 5.0 either. In fact, back then VC++ flagged the EXEs it made with the Learning Editions, etc.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
I still swear by though that there were no commercial restrictions for that copy I bought
Perhaps you weren't sold the academic EULA then. Could've been a fault on the part of the place you bought it from. Most people don't know squat about it.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Also worth pointing out, is that there were no such thing as MSDN back then. What I got was a CD for the pro versions of Visual C++, Basic and J#.
Yes there was. I got MSDN Library CDs with both my 5.0 and 6.0 purchases. I didn't buy through a school though, it was through a store. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Perhaps you weren't sold the academic EULA then. Could've been a fault on the part of the place you bought it from. Most people don't know squat about it.
If I remember correctly, I ordered it directly from Microsoft. I know the return adress of the order confirmation was from Microsoft Sweden, and the box came from Microsoft Ireland (or was it UK? - it was one of those offside islands ;))
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I got MSDN Library CDs with both my 5.0 and 6.0 purchases.
Yes, the library was there, but not the licensing program as we know it today..? I.e. MSDN Universal, etc (well, wait, they've changed it again, haven't they?)
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
It was kind of like an OEM-version.
You sure it wasn't the blackmarket version? :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
Not unless they managed to spoof as Microsoft. :~
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Perhaps you weren't sold the academic EULA then. Could've been a fault on the part of the place you bought it from. Most people don't know squat about it.
If I remember correctly, I ordered it directly from Microsoft. I know the return adress of the order confirmation was from Microsoft Sweden, and the box came from Microsoft Ireland (or was it UK? - it was one of those offside islands ;))
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I got MSDN Library CDs with both my 5.0 and 6.0 purchases.
Yes, the library was there, but not the licensing program as we know it today..? I.e. MSDN Universal, etc (well, wait, they've changed it again, haven't they?)
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
If I remember correctly, I ordered it directly from Microsoft.
Beats me then.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
but not the licensing program as we know it today..
IIRC back in the day it was you either had a subscription or you didn't. None of this fancy multi-level stuff these kids get to choose from. Jeremy Falcon
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Not unless they managed to spoof as Microsoft. :~
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Not unless they managed to spoof as Microsoft.
BTW, how is your BIOS programming going? Jeremy Falcon
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Not unless they managed to spoof as Microsoft.
BTW, how is your BIOS programming going? Jeremy Falcon
BIOS? You mean OS? Well, I managed to get C++ up and running. Then I hacked up a console driver. And then I got bored. :-D It's a ton of work. :sigh: Especially so if I ever wanted to do something *serious* with it. Writing low level software for the PC, where the hardware is a moving target, must be a royal pain in the ass. Lucky me I my job is above kernel space.. :-D
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BIOS? You mean OS? Well, I managed to get C++ up and running. Then I hacked up a console driver. And then I got bored. :-D It's a ton of work. :sigh: Especially so if I ever wanted to do something *serious* with it. Writing low level software for the PC, where the hardware is a moving target, must be a royal pain in the ass. Lucky me I my job is above kernel space.. :-D
-- From the network that brought you "The Simpsons"
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
You mean OS?
Um, yeah that's it. :)
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Well, I managed to get C++ up and running. Then I hacked up a console driver.
That sounds cool. One day I'd like to play around with that stuff, but realistically it'll probably never happen I'm trying to be another OGL nerd.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Especially so if I ever wanted to do something *serious* with it.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Lucky me I my job is above kernel space..
I'll second that. Jeremy Falcon
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
Honestly, you can have one of my personal copies along with the license. Send me an email if you want it. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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Honestly, you can have one of my personal copies along with the license. Send me an email if you want it. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
Just sent one off.. and truly thanks. This would be most appreciated. This statement is false.
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Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a boxed licensed copy of VC++ 6.0? [edit] Does it still come with the msdn? [/edit] This statement is false. -- modified at 18:16 Wednesday 19th July, 2006
These guys[^] seem to still be selling it, although the price has certainly inflated a good bit...
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Does it still come with the msdn?
If you have MSDN subscription, you can download it from subscriber downloads. I downloaded VB6 a while back because someone threw away the CDs (at work) and I needed VB6 for a project. I saw that C++ was also available for download. I am not sure whether it is legal for any one to send the CDs to you? Otherwise you can always subscribe to MSDN and hope download it.;)
I just scanned thru the MSDN subscriber downloads and while VB6 was listed, VC6 was not...curious that you can still get VC 1.52 but not VC6... Steve
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In December, MS had to shop shipping all their products that included their Java VM. Among the more notable things pulled were Win 2K and VC 6. :((
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ah, that expains why I cound not find VC6 in the MSDN download lists
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Honestly, you can have one of my personal copies along with the license. Send me an email if you want it. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
Chris Austin wrote:
Honestly, you can have one of my personal copies along with the license.
You wouldnt by any chance have an extra license would you?LOL!! I work with MFC at office.Wanted to write a coupla freewares obviously i cant do that at work and impossible to do at home given the prohibitive price of the thing. So short of buying an illegit copy off the roads(possible in India.of course since i plan to put my name on it, just wondering how long before i start getting sued)looks like i'll have to shelve my plans:^)
