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.NET My Services (HailStorm) scrapped

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    Chris Maunder
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    Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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      James T Johnson
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      Yeah, it's in this NY Times article. Or if you don't want to sign up for NY Times, Chris Anderson copied the article contents in this DOTNET mailing list posting. James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971

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        Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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        SimonS
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        This is serious. MS was betting a lot on Hailstorm getting adopted. I can't find anything on The Register yet, but I'll carry on looking... Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge

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          Yeah, it's in this NY Times article. Or if you don't want to sign up for NY Times, Chris Anderson copied the article contents in this DOTNET mailing list posting. James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971

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          James T Johnson
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          I hadn't gotten a chance to read both articles, since the one just hit my inbox when I saw Chris' post. But it looks like either it is an Associated Press article or the source for the other site did a copy and paste of the NY Times article. James Sonork: Hasaki "I left there in the morning with their God tucked underneath my arm their half-assed smiles and the book of rules. So I asked this God a question and by way of firm reply, He said - I'm not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays." "Wind Up" from Aqualung, Jethro Tull 1971

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            Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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            Michael P Butler
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            The computer software maker is now considering selling My Services to corporations in a traditional package form, rather than as a service. The companies would maintain the data for their own users. Which makes more sense to me than having data on Microsoft's servers. The Slashdot crowd are going to have a field day with this one. Michael :-)

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              Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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              SimonS
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              Any idea what this means for Microsoft's "single logon" architecture? Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge

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                Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                Daniel Ferguson
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                I think that Hailstorm -- what kind of name is that anyway? I assume it's meant to describe what they want to do to their competitors. Anyway, Hailstorm is a solution looking for a problem and that's why it (may have) failed. MS just wants a way to make the internet proprietary (what the h*ll do I want a 'passport' for anyway?). :| [edit] Dictionary.com's word of the day: desuetude \DES-wih-tood, -tyood\, noun: The cessation of use; discontinuance of practice or custom; disuse. Coincidence? [edit] "There is a fine line between lunacy and genius; it is my goal in life to keep them guessing just where the line lies..." -- Unknown

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                  Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  realJSOP
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                  I'm glad it's gone. Actually, it's probably not really gone. Miscrosoft will re-label it and re-package it and we'll see it again in a year or two. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.

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                    I'm glad it's gone. Actually, it's probably not really gone. Miscrosoft will re-label it and re-package it and we'll see it again in a year or two. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.

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                    Joao Vaz
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Actually, it's probably not really gone. Miscrosoft will re-label it and re-package it and we'll see it again in a year or two. Quite True John, quite true :omg: Cheers, Joao Vaz

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                      Any idea what this means for Microsoft's "single logon" architecture? Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge

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                      Michael P Butler
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                      Hailstorm was seperate from Passport. I can't see this affecting it. A lot will depend on how Microsoft repackage the Hailstorm technology. Michael :-)

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                        Hailstorm was seperate from Passport. I can't see this affecting it. A lot will depend on how Microsoft repackage the Hailstorm technology. Michael :-)

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                        Michael P Butler wrote: Hailstorm was seperate from Passport Understood, but I was under the impression that Passport would leverage of Hailstorm. I saw it happening like this: 1. User auto-logons to site X. 2. Site X code can use some profile information from the user to customise site without the need to store profile info themselves. 3. user auth. is handled outside of Site X and within MS's passport instead. Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge

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                          Michael P Butler wrote: Hailstorm was seperate from Passport Understood, but I was under the impression that Passport would leverage of Hailstorm. I saw it happening like this: 1. User auto-logons to site X. 2. Site X code can use some profile information from the user to customise site without the need to store profile info themselves. 3. user auth. is handled outside of Site X and within MS's passport instead. Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge

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                          I thought that Passport was what you described and Hailstorm was the value added web services. Calender, Email, ToDoList that could be accessed from where ever you were in the world via your Passport. I always thought it was a cool idea and would love to be able to access that kind of info either from my ipaq or from a desktop machine. It would certainly make my life easier when I'm out on site. Guess I'll just have to get around to writing one myself and host it on my own server. Michael :-)

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                            Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                            Fazlul Kabir
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                            Man, I'm scheduled to deliver an hour long presentation this afternoon on the glories of .NET to a bunch of Java worshipers here in VA. Looks like I need to *repackage* my PowerPoint slides too. // Fazlul


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                              Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              David Wulff
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                              Am I the only one who thinks/thought .NET My Services was a good idea? ____________________ David Wulff A lot of Americans, like [Martin], are arrogant, ignorant and blind to the thought that there may be people in this world who don't cry themselves to sleep every night because they don't live in America. - CG in The Marvinski Wars, 9 April '02

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                                Am I the only one who thinks/thought .NET My Services was a good idea? ____________________ David Wulff A lot of Americans, like [Martin], are arrogant, ignorant and blind to the thought that there may be people in this world who don't cry themselves to sleep every night because they don't live in America. - CG in The Marvinski Wars, 9 April '02

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                                David Wulff wrote: Am I the only one who thinks/thought .NET My Services was a good idea? No. Bill got pretty barred up over it. :-D Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "He orginally got the Tweezers of Destruction through the scanners but then popped back outside for a smoke." - Chris Maunder 26/03/2002

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                                  Am I the only one who thinks/thought .NET My Services was a good idea? ____________________ David Wulff A lot of Americans, like [Martin], are arrogant, ignorant and blind to the thought that there may be people in this world who don't cry themselves to sleep every night because they don't live in America. - CG in The Marvinski Wars, 9 April '02

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                                  I'm sure that Mr Gates still gets a raging hardon when a manly voice whispers "passport", especially when he's wearing a cute little leather halter top and voice is coming from behind him... "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.

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                                    Just found this. Any confirmation from anywhere else? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                    Tom Archer
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                                    Wasn't this product (and it's not having been received so well thus far) the reason that MS exec just got canned? Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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                                      Wasn't this product (and it's not having been received so well thus far) the reason that MS exec just got canned? Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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                                      That sounds about right. I'm hoping it isn't the reason though. Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge

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                                        That sounds about right. I'm hoping it isn't the reason though. Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge

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                                        I think I remember from the wording of the article that he was fired over a power struggle regarding how to position and market HailStorm. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                                          I think I remember from the wording of the article that he was fired over a power struggle regarding how to position and market HailStorm. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                                          jeesh. I seem to remember another MS heavy leaving early on when .NET was being developed. Can't remember his name though. Obviously, .NET, et al is a larger departure from the "normal" MS way than I ever thought. Cheers, Simon "I get paid for my brain and my thinking in several obscure worlds", Olli, The Lounge

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