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  • T Tom Archer

    Years ago a popular mechanism for determining the various roles of different people in the company and their impact or relationship to the product being developed was defined using CARD. C = Concerned (Interested, but no direct impact) A = Accountable (Basically this person is fired if it fails) R = Responsible (People that do the work) D = ??? (Can't remember, but probably the people impacted by the product) Does anyone remember this and can give me a link to it's formal definition? Also, I believe another similar acronym took its place a few years back, but I can't recall its name either.

    Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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    Wjousts
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    We use RACI R = Responsible A = Accountable C = Consulted (offers advice or opinions) I = Informed (kept in the loop) Might you D be some variation of our I?

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      D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Paul Conrad
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

      :laugh: Have run across those types.


      That's no moon, it's a space station. - Obi-wan Kenobi

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      • T Tom Archer

        I don't take Marc too seriously. He just comes across a bit close-minded if someone has a different opinion than him - so in other words, he's more normal that he'd like to admit :)

        Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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        Josh Smith
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        Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

        I don't take Marc too seriously. He just comes across a bit close-minded if someone has a different opinion than him - so in other words, he's more normal that he'd like to admit

        Ouch! :laugh:

        :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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          Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

          I don't take Marc too seriously. He just comes across a bit close-minded if someone has a different opinion than him - so in other words, he's more normal that he'd like to admit

          Ouch! :laugh:

          :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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          Marc Clifton
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          Josh Smith wrote:

          Ouch!

          And you wonder why I don't like him. Actually, I have some other reasons. Marc

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Is this for a new Vista team management model?

            I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately:) -- modified at 14:38 Tuesday 1st August, 2006


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            Marc Clifton
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            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

            I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately

            Well, he did get a lot of flack for that sig, which you will note, he did change. Marc

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            Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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            • T Tom Archer

              Actually I disagree with that. Responsibility and accountability are veyr much different. For example, many people were responsible for the success of the Vista Dev Center - content strategy, site management, document, etc. However, there's only one person that "owns" it in terms of accountability - the ultimate decision maker - which was me. Therefore, it if failed, I would get fired.

              Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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              Marc Clifton
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              Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

              Responsibility and accountability are veyr much different.

              I choose to be close-minded on that view. ;P Marc

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              Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
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              • C Chris Maunder

                D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                David Crow
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

                a.k.a. delegator.


                "Money talks. When my money starts to talk, I get a bill to shut it up." - Frank

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                • T Tom Archer

                  Years ago a popular mechanism for determining the various roles of different people in the company and their impact or relationship to the product being developed was defined using CARD. C = Concerned (Interested, but no direct impact) A = Accountable (Basically this person is fired if it fails) R = Responsible (People that do the work) D = ??? (Can't remember, but probably the people impacted by the product) Does anyone remember this and can give me a link to it's formal definition? Also, I believe another similar acronym took its place a few years back, but I can't recall its name either.

                  Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                  C = Corporate R = Rhetoric U = Updated D = Daily ;P

                  '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    D = Deflector (Someone who deflects the responsibility and actual work onto others while taking credit for the final product)

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    :laugh: "Scotty, Deflectors up!" "Captain, I'm concerned that the person responsible for the dilithium crystals appears to be smoking them. I canna be held accountable for wha' happens if you keep them up too long..."

                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Josh Smith wrote:

                      Ouch!

                      And you wonder why I don't like him. Actually, I have some other reasons. Marc

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                      Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                      Tom Archer
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                      Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                      Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                        Is this what you are looking for, or is methodology too new ? http://www.enterprise-architecture.info/Images/Architecture%20Score%20Card/Architecture%20Score%20Card%20UK.htm[^]

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                        Tom Archer
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                        Thanks Richard!

                        Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                          We use RACI R = Responsible A = Accountable C = Consulted (offers advice or opinions) I = Informed (kept in the loop) Might you D be some variation of our I?

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                          Tom Archer
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                          Yeah, that's it :rolleyes: :) -- modified at 13:58 Thursday 3rd August, 2006

                          Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                            I notice that you are being bad to Tom lately

                            Well, he did get a lot of flack for that sig, which you will note, he did change. Marc

                            XPressTier

                            Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                            Tom Archer
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                            Yep. I made a mistake, owned up to it as soon as someone drew my attention to it and fixed it immediately. I can definitely see where that makes me terrible :rolleyes:

                            Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                              Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                              Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              Tom Archer - MSFT wrote:

                              Dude, you don't even know me - and are too closed-minded to even try so I'll return you to your life of alternating between bitching about those that judge you and judging others.

                              :-D Marc

                              XPressTier

                              Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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