More DVD software problems
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Doesn't the DVD software just install the codec ? I figured this was where the problem was, as the same thing happens when I try to use media player, but I've uninstalled and reinstalled the DVD software, removed it and installed other DVD software, etc.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
Doesn't the DVD software just install the codec ?
Depends. The codec used is MPEG for the DVDs, some players are hardware based and the MPEG decoder generaly ships with the video card if it supports it. I'd make sure it's installed or try a software based player to see if it works.
Jeremy Falcon
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Doesn't the DVD software just install the codec ? I figured this was where the problem was, as the same thing happens when I try to use media player, but I've uninstalled and reinstalled the DVD software, removed it and installed other DVD software, etc.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
BTW, was this the player that came with your video card, dvd drive, or what?
Jeremy Falcon
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Christian Graus wrote:
I'm not confident this will help.
Neither are we, but we have to sound like we know what we're doing. I suggest sacrificing a chicken.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
Neither are we, but we have to sound like we know what we're doing.
:laugh::laugh: That's a good one.
Jeremy Falcon
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Christian Graus wrote:
First-chance exception in ASUSDVD.exe (NTDLL.DLL): 0xC0000005: Access Violation.
Well, if NTDLL.DLL caused you can pretty much bet it's a driver issue - which leads me to believe that's a hardware based player. I'd make sure you have an MPEG decoder installed or try a different player that's software based.
Jeremy Falcon
NTDLL has nothing to do with drivers. It's basically just a bridge between between user space and kernel space. If a crash occurred in NTDLL, chances are that the user app gave it garbage..
-- In Hypno-Vision
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OK, I've established that whatever software I use, it will crash when I try to play a DVD. This is a brand new XP install. I can't see any way to uninstall DirectX, which is the other thing I presume might need to be reinstalled. Does anyone have any suggestions ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
I would recommend using some other DVD playback application. I saw in the module dump below that you're using Asus DVD. That has got to be the crappiest DVD application to this date. I recommend PowerDVD, or VLC (free: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/[^])
-- From the network that brought you "The Simpsons"
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NTDLL has nothing to do with drivers. It's basically just a bridge between between user space and kernel space. If a crash occurred in NTDLL, chances are that the user app gave it garbage..
-- In Hypno-Vision
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
NTDLL has nothing to do with drivers.
I never said it did, directly that is. The point I was making was it was a system DLL. I'd like to believe with that being the case, it's a DLL that's well tested.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
It's basically just a bridge between between user space and kernel space. If a crash occurred in NTDLL, chances are that the user app gave it garbage..
And why was the app handing it garbage? [edit] And yes that's a rhetorical question. [/edit]
Jeremy Falcon
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I would recommend using some other DVD playback application. I saw in the module dump below that you're using Asus DVD. That has got to be the crappiest DVD application to this date. I recommend PowerDVD, or VLC (free: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/[^])
-- From the network that brought you "The Simpsons"
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
I recommend PowerDVD
It's software based and slow. If he can get the hardware decoding working, that's the better option.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
or VLC
Sorry, but that has one of the crappiest interfaces known to man. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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BTW, was this the player that came with your video card, dvd drive, or what?
Jeremy Falcon
Hmm... I assumed it came with the drive, but now that you mention it, I got two CDs, so perhaps it came with the video cards ( I have two the same ).
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Hmm... I assumed it came with the drive, but now that you mention it, I got two CDs, so perhaps it came with the video cards ( I have two the same ).
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Yup, chances are if your video card does support hardware based decoding it'll be on the video card's CD.
Jeremy Falcon
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I would recommend using some other DVD playback application. I saw in the module dump below that you're using Asus DVD. That has got to be the crappiest DVD application to this date. I recommend PowerDVD, or VLC (free: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/[^])
-- From the network that brought you "The Simpsons"
Thanks - I'm downloading it, although I have tried others and they did the same ( as does Windows Media Player )
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Thanks - I'm downloading it, although I have tried others and they did the same ( as does Windows Media Player )
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
as does Windows Media Player
Media Player won't play DVDs until you have a decoder installed. I'm willing to bet that's the issue.
Jeremy Falcon
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Yup, chances are if your video card does support hardware based decoding it'll be on the video card's CD.
Jeremy Falcon
I believe it does, but the drivers that came with the card are useless, I'm using drivers from nVidia, perhaps that's why the decoding isn't working ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Christian Graus wrote:
I'm not confident this will help.
Neither are we, but we have to sound like we know what we're doing. I suggest sacrificing a chicken.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote:
I suggest sacrificing a chicken.
Goats work better.
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Christian Graus wrote:
as does Windows Media Player
Media Player won't play DVDs until you have a decoder installed. I'm willing to bet that's the issue.
Jeremy Falcon
Perhaps, but it crashes in the exact same way, I thought media player reported inteligently that it needed a codec ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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I believe it does, but the drivers that came with the card are useless, I'm using drivers from nVidia, perhaps that's why the decoding isn't working ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
perhaps that's why the decoding isn't working ?
It very well could be, what kinda video card are you using out of curiosity?
Jeremy Falcon
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Make sure it's installed. My nVidia card has hardware MPEG support, but the downloadable player on their site doesn't install a driver for it. Just make sure it's there, or see if a software based player doesn't crash at least.
Jeremy Falcon
Yeah, I guess it's not installed, I sure can't see it anywhere in the start menu or add/remove programs. But I thought I downloaded another player that used software and it didn't work either.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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I believe it does, but the drivers that came with the card are useless, I'm using drivers from nVidia, perhaps that's why the decoding isn't working ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
And, and if you do have to go software based, it's not the end of the world. On modern systems, you'll be just fine. It'll be a bit more sluggish but there have been worse problems in life. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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Perhaps, but it crashes in the exact same way, I thought media player reported inteligently that it needed a codec ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
I thought media player reported inteligently that it needed a codec ?
It should, but sometimes things don't always work out like that. :-D
Jeremy Falcon
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Yeah, I guess it's not installed, I sure can't see it anywhere in the start menu or add/remove programs. But I thought I downloaded another player that used software and it didn't work either.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
But I thought I downloaded another player that used software and it didn't work either.
Well, if you follow Jörgen's link for PowerDVD, I know that one is software based. Whether or not you buy it is up to you, but at least during the trial period you can see if it'll play your DVDs. If so, that has to be the issue. If not, then you're SOL. :-D
Jeremy Falcon
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Yeah, I guess it's not installed, I sure can't see it anywhere in the start menu or add/remove programs. But I thought I downloaded another player that used software and it didn't work either.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
BTW, what video card are you using, is it an nVidia? If so, they have special software to allow you to play DVDs in media player, with hardware MPEG support. It should install needed drivers as well for your card.
Jeremy Falcon