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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Christopher Duncan wrote:

    atoi()

    How do other people pronounce that? Right or wrong, I've gotten used to saying something along the lines of "a-toy" rather than "a-to-i" over the years. I must admit I've gotten some odd looks before. :laugh:

    Jeremy Falcon

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    a-to-ee (Zweedish ;))

    -- Nominated For Three Glemmys

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      I once saw a routine from a junior level programmer (though not to read the 14 degrees and certifications on his resume) that was a replacement for atoi() because he didn't realize it existed. What's even better is that the routine (a couple of screens long) had errors on almost every single line. Really. My only regret is not having printed it out so that I could frame it. No, looking at code like that doesn't make me sick. It makes me feel like an experienced programmer who should be charging more. :-D

      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      Christopher Duncan wrote:

      a replacement for atoi() ... a couple of screens long

      While it's stupid to reinvent something, one should at the very least try to do it with elegance and finesse. An atoi like function ought to be just a few lines long...

      -- Not a substitute for human interaction

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Josh Smith wrote:

        or does looking at really stupid code make you feel sick to your stomach, too?

        Me too. And I've been looking at some real technicolor yawners of bad code lately too. Marc

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        Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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        Josh Smith
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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        Me too. And I've been looking at some real technicolor yawners of bad code lately too.

        That's a damn shame. Sorry to hear it. My biggest fear about working with crappy code is that, given enough time, perhaps my brain will accept it and make sense out of it. That's a terrifying prospect, because I would have then sunk to the level of the crappy code. :~

        :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          a-to-ee (Zweedish ;))

          -- Nominated For Three Glemmys

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          Bork! Bork! Bork!


          Software Zen: delete this;

          Fold With Us![^]

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          • C charlieg

            Oh, but we consultants have a special place in our hearts for employees that insist they know better, then code gems like this. I did not want to leave out the other side of the coin - when you are constantly cleaning up gems like this.... hmmm, maybe I should change my sig

            Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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            Gary R Wheeler
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            charlieg wrote:

            My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

            :cool: Reminds me of something I told a coworker the other day. He was giving our admin person (Debbie) a hard time. I pulled him to the side, and whispered just loudly enough for Debbie to overhear: "You know, I'd lighten up if I were you. Her son kills people for a living." Her son is a Marine.


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            • C charlieg

              Actually, if you are a consultant, then this poster will truly be meaningful: Consulting enjoy. And if you want lot's of hoots, check out all of the posters....

              Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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              Gary R Wheeler
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              Awesome. I haven't checked out the site in a while. :-D:-D


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              • J Josh Smith

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Me too. And I've been looking at some real technicolor yawners of bad code lately too.

                That's a damn shame. Sorry to hear it. My biggest fear about working with crappy code is that, given enough time, perhaps my brain will accept it and make sense out of it. That's a terrifying prospect, because I would have then sunk to the level of the crappy code. :~

                :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                Josh Smith wrote:

                That's a terrifying prospect, because I would have then sunk to the level of the crappy code.

                I honestly don't think that will happen. In fact, I find the opposite--when I look at other people's code and barf, I actually turn an even more critical eye to my own code. It's actually been quite illuminating over the last 8 months or so. I find that I am documenting a LOT more, and the last few weeks, I've really been digging into UML and trying to become proficient at it. I've gone through 3 UML product evaluations in the process as well. :sigh: Marc

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                Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Josh Smith wrote:

                  That's a terrifying prospect, because I would have then sunk to the level of the crappy code.

                  I honestly don't think that will happen. In fact, I find the opposite--when I look at other people's code and barf, I actually turn an even more critical eye to my own code. It's actually been quite illuminating over the last 8 months or so. I find that I am documenting a LOT more, and the last few weeks, I've really been digging into UML and trying to become proficient at it. I've gone through 3 UML product evaluations in the process as well. :sigh: Marc

                  XPressTier

                  Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  In fact, I find the opposite--when I look at other people's code and barf, I actually turn an even more critical eye to my own code.

                  Kudos to he who makes lemonade from lemons! :jig: I suppose you're right about that. Mental degradation is probably not a side effect of reading barf-inducing code. :^)

                  :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                  • J Josh Smith

                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    Oooh, ooh, post the code! Post the code!

                    I can't. I don't want to violate my NDA! :~ General gist:

                    class TextReederHelper
                    {
                    int i;
                    int ii = 72;
                    public TextReederHelper()
                    {
                    //ii = -12;
                    //ii = -12;
                    ii = -12;
                    }

                    public int AddValuesIntegerlly( int i, int ii )
                    {
                    if( i < ii ) return i + ii;
                    return i + ii; }
                    }

                    Holy Bunghole, I'm gonna heave! :wtf:

                    :josh: My WPF Blog[^]

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                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                    Is that production code?

                    Cheers, Vikram.


                    "whoever I am, I'm not other people" - Corinna John.

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                    • G Gary R Wheeler

                      charlieg wrote:

                      My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

                      :cool: Reminds me of something I told a coworker the other day. He was giving our admin person (Debbie) a hard time. I pulled him to the side, and whispered just loudly enough for Debbie to overhear: "You know, I'd lighten up if I were you. Her son kills people for a living." Her son is a Marine.


                      Software Zen: delete this;

                      Fold With Us![^]

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                      charlieg
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                      lol - that's priceless... yes, it is comforting to see my 16 year old daughter explain to wannabee boy friends that her Dad is tough, but her brothers are worse :)

                      Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW. My other son commutes in an M1A2 Abrams

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