Islam - A Failed Religion. [modified]
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If Islam as it is believed that every word was spoken by Allah and latter written down by (illiterate) Mohammad, Then why there is so much of misunderstanding of His words? Is god not clear enough for the people to understand how they should behave and live? yeah yeah you may say that not all Muslims are terrorists but most of the terrorists are Muslims. Muslims are still on to this age old concept of crusades and killing innocent people that only barbaric people can do. No religion is perfect, In the past Christian were also involved in such acts, but now Christians are know for peace loving people. I have few Muslim friends in India, and most of us believe that we are Indian first and then comes our religion, but Muslim put their religion first and then nation. Muslim don’t belong to any nation and that is why they can never be in harmony with fellow citizens. The fact that most of the terrorists are Muslims just means that Muslims is a failed religion. -- modified at 3:46 Friday 11th August, 2006
-Prakash
What a load of crap.
Mr.Prakash wrote:
most of the terrorists are Muslims
Most terrorists have coffee coloured skin and come from Asia. Lets face it, Asians are a failed race. As are coffee coloured people, they are a failed skin tone.
Mr.Prakash wrote:
but Muslim put their religion first and then nation.
That is the point of a religion you know.
Mr.Prakash wrote:
Muslim don’t belong to any nation and that is why they can never be in harmony with fellow citizens
Thats is the stupidest thing I have seen for a long time. A religion that unites countries is naturally harmonious.
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why are you worried about virgins?didn't you guys find any virgin at time of marriage?or you just guys used to adapt a *2nd hand stuff*? teach some moral lesson to men and women of your society so that you can also enjoy a *virgin* woman as a wife.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
why are you worried about virgins?didn't you guys find any virgin at time of marriage?or you just guys used to adapt a *2nd hand stuff*? teach some moral lesson to men and women of your society so that you can also enjoy a *virgin* woman as a wife.
No, really ... how many do you expect to get? Is it like, one per infidel killed or what? What's the deal here? I'm curious. Can they be like, first cousins too or is that no longer fashionable these days?
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
It doesnt matter at all neither its harmful.Ask a jew/zionist,he would be more inclined towards Torah than USA or anyother country where he resides.
See my post above but you are misinformed on this point. My primary loyalty (at this level) lies with the UK other than where it would conflict directly with being a Jew. For instance, if the UK were to go to war with Israel or a government elected that was anti-semitic in nature and actively persecuted Jews I'd have a dilemna. What I would never do, however and whatever the provocation, is strap a bomb round my waist and kill people or attempt to do so. On the other hand it does appear as if muslims are a group of people whose religion does transcend national loyalty and that is, in my view, dangerous.
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digital man wrote:
On the other hand it does appear as if muslims are a group of people whose religion does transcend national loyalty and that is, in my view, dangerous.
Its your view only which I respect but far from reality.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you shouldnt expect from aethist to take *GOD* as most important element in life.
No, only the mujaheddin do that. That's why we're infidels, remember? Anyways, putting your radical Islam views aside, since you are a master of Brownian motion, perhaps you can tell this humble student the answer to the following question I have been struggling with during my studies of, what did you call it?, oh yeah: "Browns motion". :rolleyes: Please tell me, oh enlightened one: Assuming stochastic volatility, does Girsanov's theorem guarantee that we can eliminate the drift from Brownian motion under the equivalent martingale measure, or does it lack the Markov property making such a transform impossible? It's in the Qu'ran, so you should be able to answer this one all easy-peasy like.
thealj wrote:
No, only the mujaheddin do that. That's why we're infidels, remember?
you have really transformed to a moron espeir/pumpkinHead.I feel sory for you thealJ Ask any christians the importance of God in his life.You never got chance to read Bible in your life. Do you believe in Bible?
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And Is this yo who is just voting me down to 1.0 on each post of mine in current thread.Right now yo re active on this forum=)
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
And Is this yo who is just voting me down to 1.0 on each post of mine in current thread.Right now yo re active on this forum=)
I don't use the voting system. Sorry. By the way, are honour killings alot of work? I mean, do they require lots of advance planning? Can I find out about this in the Qu'ran? Where do I look? On a side note, do you get many virgin vouchers for participation in these events? I'm just trying to learn all aspects of your culture so I can be less of an infidel.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
why are you worried about virgins?didn't you guys find any virgin at time of marriage?or you just guys used to adapt a *2nd hand stuff*? teach some moral lesson to men and women of your society so that you can also enjoy a *virgin* woman as a wife.
No, really ... how many do you expect to get? Is it like, one per infidel killed or what? What's the deal here? I'm curious. Can they be like, first cousins too or is that no longer fashionable these days?
thealj wrote:
No, really
oh no virgins for you.Tsk tsk.What pathetic society do you belong.I can understand your despration which put you down to the level which you deserve.Keep staying in loo for a while.
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thealj wrote:
No, only the mujaheddin do that. That's why we're infidels, remember?
you have really transformed to a moron espeir/pumpkinHead.I feel sory for you thealJ Ask any christians the importance of God in his life.You never got chance to read Bible in your life. Do you believe in Bible?
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you have really transformed to a moron espeir/pumpkinHead.I feel sory for you thealJ
:laugh: Since when did you have respect for an infidel? What, now I'm supposed to imagine you thought positively of me? Your actions on this message board have amply demonstrated otherwise. No, to you I am and always have been an infidel. Yes, you are that transparent. But seriously, help me with the question on "Brown's motion". I know you know all about it.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
And Is this yo who is just voting me down to 1.0 on each post of mine in current thread.Right now yo re active on this forum=)
I don't use the voting system. Sorry. By the way, are honour killings alot of work? I mean, do they require lots of advance planning? Can I find out about this in the Qu'ran? Where do I look? On a side note, do you get many virgin vouchers for participation in these events? I'm just trying to learn all aspects of your culture so I can be less of an infidel.
thealj wrote:
re honour killings alot of work?
:laugh::laugh: Make a search of this soapbox forum,many urls would comeup about honour killings in every religion and region(for isntance USA,India etc)
thealj wrote:
an infide
Does calling you an *Infidel* hurt you?:rolleyes: Why do you get piss if I cal yo u an Infidel?;)
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thealj wrote:
No, really
oh no virgins for you.Tsk tsk.What pathetic society do you belong.I can understand your despration which put you down to the level which you deserve.Keep staying in loo for a while.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
oh no virgins for you.
Oh well, being an infidel I guess I just don't have what it takes to commit a suicide attack. Sorry to disappoint, old bean!
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
What pathetic society do you belong.I can understand your despration which put you down to the level which you deserve.Keep staying in loo for a while.
Ah, your true nature is revealed! You seriously believe your society/culture/religion is the greatest. You're not about peace and acceptance you're about superiority. Good for you! I think I've illustrated my point and am done with this thread.
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Mr.Prakash wrote:
you may say that not all Muslims are terrorists but most of the terrorists are Muslims
:laugh: good one.
Mr.Prakash wrote:
but Muslim put their religion first and then nation.
Not entirely, their nations are just built on religion.
Mr.Prakash wrote:
The fact that most of the terrorists are Muslims just means that Muslims is a failed religion.
No religion is failed, each (wo)man has the right to believe what (s)he wants. It are the people themselves that failed...
I've found a living worth working for, but I haven't found work worth living for. :beer:
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No religion is failed, each (wo)man has the right to believe what (s)he wants. It are the people themselves that failed...
It failed to make the belivers live peacefully with other religion. It failed to make the belivers from taking innocent lives.
-Prakash
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thealj wrote:
re honour killings alot of work?
:laugh::laugh: Make a search of this soapbox forum,many urls would comeup about honour killings in every religion and region(for isntance USA,India etc)
thealj wrote:
an infide
Does calling you an *Infidel* hurt you?:rolleyes: Why do you get piss if I cal yo u an Infidel?;)
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Make a search of this soapbox forum,many urls would comeup about honour killings in every religion and region(for isntance USA,India etc)
Oh, but Pakistan has perfected them! Many cases of honor killings have been reported in Pakistan [...] Critics argue that the practice is over-whelmingly associated with certain Muslim cultures and the peoples influenced by those cultures. See[^]!
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Does calling you an *Infidel* hurt you? Why do you get piss if I cal yo u an Infidel?
Not at all - sorry to disappoint you.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Make a search of this soapbox forum,many urls would comeup about honour killings in every religion and region(for isntance USA,India etc)
Oh, but Pakistan has perfected them! Many cases of honor killings have been reported in Pakistan [...] Critics argue that the practice is over-whelmingly associated with certain Muslim cultures and the peoples influenced by those cultures. See[^]!
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Does calling you an *Infidel* hurt you? Why do you get piss if I cal yo u an Infidel?
Not at all - sorry to disappoint you.
thealj wrote:
Oh, but Pakistan has perfected them!
But you were condemning Islam in previous post and associated honour killing with it?Stick to your words. noone deny asian countries ,specificually sub-continent has issues.in India 20m foetus were sold and it was reported in BBC.Someone like you would like to associate with Hindu or Sikh religion while it was all due to poverty. A humble request,make some study so that one can enjoy debating with you.Trolls cant be intresting for long.
thealj wrote:
Not at all - sorry to disappoint you.
Then why are you keep discussing it?Take your *infiden* status normal as aethist? according to (http://www.answers.com/infidel&r=67) # Offensive. An unbeliever with respect to a particular religion, especially Christianity or Islam. # One who has no religious beliefs. # One who doubts or rejects a particular doctrine, system, or principle. In this way i am an infidel of christianity and judaism or anyother religion except Islam. Calm down boy and concenrate on your studies.
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V. wrote:
No religion is failed, each (wo)man has the right to believe what (s)he wants. It are the people themselves that failed...
It failed to make the belivers live peacefully with other religion. It failed to make the belivers from taking innocent lives.
-Prakash
Go back in your loo.You already lost the ground by making patheitc and baseless statments.
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*You* as an invidual doesnt matter here,neither being discussed.We are talking about general trend.In this way i can also claim that I am a Pakistani first than a muslim but I will be stupid enough to present myself as an example.
digital man wrote:
On the other hand it does appear as if muslims are a group of people whose religion does transcend national loyalty and that is, in my view, dangerous.
Its your view only which I respect but far from reality.
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*You* as an invidual doesnt matter here,neither being discussed.We are talking about general trend.In this way i can also claim that I am a Pakistani first than a muslim but I will be stupid enough to present myself as an example.
Agreed: but every Jew I know (and I know a LOT) feels the same way inasmuch as levels of loyalty go. There are, as I said before, only one or two circumstances in which I would put Judaism above the country I and family were born and raised in and which provides very well for me and of which I am proud to be a part of. I am not looking to tear it apart from the inside out to conform to my world view.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Its your view only which I respect but far from reality.
The evidence would seem to say otherwise.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
*You* as an invidual doesnt matter here,neither being discussed.We are talking about general trend.In this way i can also claim that I am a Pakistani first than a muslim but I will be stupid enough to present myself as an example.
Agreed: but every Jew I know (and I know a LOT) feels the same way inasmuch as levels of loyalty go. There are, as I said before, only one or two circumstances in which I would put Judaism above the country I and family were born and raised in and which provides very well for me and of which I am proud to be a part of. I am not looking to tear it apart from the inside out to conform to my world view.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Its your view only which I respect but far from reality.
The evidence would seem to say otherwise.
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digital man wrote:
I am not looking to tear it apart from the inside out to conform to my world view.
so you want to comeup with theory that muslims living in non-muslim states cause disharmony in state?
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thealj wrote:
Oh, but Pakistan has perfected them!
But you were condemning Islam in previous post and associated honour killing with it?Stick to your words. noone deny asian countries ,specificually sub-continent has issues.in India 20m foetus were sold and it was reported in BBC.Someone like you would like to associate with Hindu or Sikh religion while it was all due to poverty. A humble request,make some study so that one can enjoy debating with you.Trolls cant be intresting for long.
thealj wrote:
Not at all - sorry to disappoint you.
Then why are you keep discussing it?Take your *infiden* status normal as aethist? according to (http://www.answers.com/infidel&r=67) # Offensive. An unbeliever with respect to a particular religion, especially Christianity or Islam. # One who has no religious beliefs. # One who doubts or rejects a particular doctrine, system, or principle. In this way i am an infidel of christianity and judaism or anyother religion except Islam. Calm down boy and concenrate on your studies.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
In this way i am an infidel of christianity and judaism or anyother religion except Islam.
Here's the thing, and I'll only say this once so understand it the first time: I see you as a human being, just like me, whether or not you believe in Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity or whatever else. I couldn't care less. In fact, despite all the sarcastic and meaningless back and forth on this message board, I think of you as an equal human being. I respect your views (despite the contents of my posts), I accept that you believe in your religion and I don't wish you harm, ill-will or anything else. I don't think less of you, I don't think more of you and I don't need to fucking label you with some inane and ridiculous term that is indicative of your beliefs. That's called tolerance and respect and I don't need religious views to live my life in that way. I'm even willing take back my jibes at your culture and religion and to tell you not to take them seriously if you stop trolling these message boards and proclaiming other people, cultures and religions as inferior to yours. That just makes you arrogant and annoying and that is why you receive the reactions that you do on here. This[^] illustrates my point regarding your feelings of superiority.
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Do you want to say that *ISRAEL* is less important for a jew Zion than a country where he resides?I am afraid you are wrong here.Every religion follower is tightly associated with his religion otherwise that religion is less worthy than other. There is compeition between followers of same religion.For instance there are muslims in Indian and England cricket team and recent defeat of Pakistan in cricket was due to a muslim and he was even a Pakistani whose family settled in UK long time back. So two things are entirely different.no follower would just ignore religion on any instance.
digital man wrote:
I am not looking to tear it apart from the inside out to conform to my world view.
so you want to comeup with theory that muslims living in non-muslim states cause disharmony in state?
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Do you want to say that *ISRAEL* is less important for a jew Zion than a country where he resides?I am afraid you are wrong here.Every religion follower is tightly associated with his religion otherwise that religion is less worthy than other.
Yup: I'm not a zionist and, apart from a really boring 2 weeks in Eilat have never been there nor had any desire to go there. I have an affinity to Israel but it's NOT my country: the UK is. I know that if there were trouble enough that I had to leave and there was nowhere else to go Israel would take me in and do it's utmost to protect me. You're also making the childish error of assuming that religion is the be-all-and-end-all. It is not. It's just the explanation of life you like best. To me it's mostly archaic nonsense dressed up as specious fantasy: stories to frighten children but that adults find tedious. (So flame me).
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
so you want to comeup with theory that muslims living in non-muslim states cause disharmony in state?
Oh, I don't know. Ooh: how about the murdering muslim bastards on July 7th last year? Come back when Islam has somethign other than violence to offer.
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In this way i am an infidel of christianity and judaism or anyother religion except Islam.
Here's the thing, and I'll only say this once so understand it the first time: I see you as a human being, just like me, whether or not you believe in Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity or whatever else. I couldn't care less. In fact, despite all the sarcastic and meaningless back and forth on this message board, I think of you as an equal human being. I respect your views (despite the contents of my posts), I accept that you believe in your religion and I don't wish you harm, ill-will or anything else. I don't think less of you, I don't think more of you and I don't need to fucking label you with some inane and ridiculous term that is indicative of your beliefs. That's called tolerance and respect and I don't need religious views to live my life in that way. I'm even willing take back my jibes at your culture and religion and to tell you not to take them seriously if you stop trolling these message boards and proclaiming other people, cultures and religions as inferior to yours. That just makes you arrogant and annoying and that is why you receive the reactions that you do on here. This[^] illustrates my point regarding your feelings of superiority.
now you started making some sense but i find you an hypocrite since in few very latest post you once again came out of your underwear(if you wear any). Whatever the _good_Words_ you used to praise yourself.I dont see you actually act upon it thus in my sight yo are a liar and a hypocrite but I know you dont give a damn what I think about so whatever i say goes in vein.
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This[^] illustrates my point regarding your feelings of superiority.
Nope you were just shown the mirror and you started crying?You were constantly offending my religion which is more important for me than anything else even my parents?Wht you felt was not different I felt after reciving your lunatic response.I tried to be nice withyou for several time but respect didnt suit you and therefore I used the similar tone which you were using for me so no need to start frowning. there are many here who disagree with me,I would take name of Josh of Australia who dont have good terms with me and do talk crap about meand my religion but I never found him as a troll,atleast not with me.Therefore I have a bit respect for him even I know one day he might talk crap again Same goes with CG.He has blind belief in his religion like me on Islam and Judah Hamingo on Judaism but despite of infinite differences i love to talk them and NONE of them misbehaved with me personally though I got rude with these two therefore i like these guys a bit now. you belong to whatever cult,i dont give a damn but your character showed your belonging.Enough for me not to respect you.For me CG and JH would be more respectable than Farhan Noor or A.A if both muslims offend me and my family. Hope you would learn something from now on.
thealj wrote:
That just makes you arrogant and annoying and that is why you receive the reactions that you do on here.
It doesn't.The only mistake of me that I am a muslim thats it.my attitude dont count here and i dont give a damn wht such loonies thinks about me.
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Go and make study of OT,NT and Koran then come to make statment of religins which you never heard in your life.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Go and make study of OT,NT and Koran then come to make statment of religins
I dont have to study anything, it's for everyone to see. Whatever Islam teaches, it has gone to the dogs.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
which you never heard in your life.
hahaha, your arrogance makes me laugh.
-Prakash
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Go and make study of OT,NT and Koran then come to make statment of religins
I dont have to study anything, it's for everyone to see. Whatever Islam teaches, it has gone to the dogs.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
which you never heard in your life.
hahaha, your arrogance makes me laugh.
-Prakash
Mr.Prakash wrote:
I dont have to study anything,
thats call ignorance.Thtswhy you cant be taken seriously by others.
Mr.Prakash wrote:
your arrogance makes me laugh
Thankyou but your post made your fellows shame that such idiot element possesses among them.
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