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  • D Dario Solera

    A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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    Joey Bloggs
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    And we will just ignore the much more glaring problem of "aerodynamic" fighters swooping and diving thru the non existent air ;P

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      And we will just ignore the much more glaring problem of "aerodynamic" fighters swooping and diving thru the non existent air ;P

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      Dario Solera
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      Joey Bloggs wrote:

      And we will just ignore the much more glaring problem of "aerodynamic" fighters swooping and diving thru the non existent air

      Well, that might be for going through the atmosphere of the planes while leaving and landing... Like the Shuttle.

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      • D Dario Solera

        A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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        Gary R Wheeler
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        It might be more reasonable than you think. Situational awareness for a pilot could make very effective use of audible cues. Close-orbit interaction (for example, around a space station) would be one place where it could be effective. Besides, like you said: it wouldn't be :cool: without it.


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        • D Dario Solera

          A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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          Giles
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          Only just noticed? Same goes for explosions, gun fire etc.


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          • D Dario Solera

            A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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            Marc Clifton
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            Dario Solera wrote:

            how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space?

            It's a zen thing, like "when a tree falls in a forest, does it make noise?". I suggest meditation. Marc

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            • D Dario Solera

              A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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              Mircea Grelus
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              Dario Solera wrote:

              Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though

              Same goes for the use of computers in some movies. I mean what the hell is that thing that the one operating them is doing. Windows poping everywhere, zooming pictures to the extreme with maximum clarity, etc. That is so unrealistic. Can't they friggin hire a person who at least has an idea about computers? They probably think this is cool. I think the explosions are cool with sounds, but probably a scientist out there has the same feeling that I have regarding the computer thing in movies.

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              • D Dario Solera

                A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                Dario Solera wrote:

                So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it?

                So this is the only "wrong" thing you noticed with sci-fi films? :~

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                • D Dario Solera

                  A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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                  I think the new BSG doesn't have sound in the space shots.

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                  • D Dario Solera

                    A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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                    Jerry Hammond
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                    Dario Solera wrote:

                    A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise.

                    Of course they can produce noise...the better question is, will they produce noise/sound?

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                    • D Dario Solera

                      A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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                      Chris Losinger
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                      there will be some transmission of 'sound', if you're close enough to the explosion that your vessel is hit by the expanding cloud of gas/debris/fire/plasma. it will shake your ship, and you will hear it.

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                      • D Dario Solera

                        A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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                        That has been brought up in many of the extras CDs for the movies I have. They always end up saying that exterior shots are really boring without sound and tend to agree with them. If you are going to have a dog-fight in space you really do need sound. Besides, it is a Sci-Fi flick so who says it needs to be real :) I also seem to remember an old Sci-Fi movie where they used real guns outside. Guys in space suits but real guns. Seemed really odd to me...


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                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it?

                          So this is the only "wrong" thing you noticed with sci-fi films? :~

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                            I think the new BSG doesn't have sound in the space shots.

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            When there are sounds, it seems to be the sounds you'd hear in the space crafts.

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                            • D Dario Solera

                              A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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                              El Corazon
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                              Dario Solera wrote:

                              A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space?

                              They don't... but computers in each space-ship gather the energy produced by other spaceships and automatically generate game-like sounds for the pilots so that they don't get bored and fall-asleep in the middle of a space battle... ;P :rolleyes:

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                                Dario Solera wrote:

                                A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space?

                                They don't... but computers in each space-ship gather the energy produced by other spaceships and automatically generate game-like sounds for the pilots so that they don't get bored and fall-asleep in the middle of a space battle... ;P :rolleyes:

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                                Dario Solera
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                                :laugh:

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                                • D Dario Solera

                                  A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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                                  Joe Woodbury
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                                  Even assuming you could hear the noise, given the distances involved the noise would be extremely delayed. This is actually a common error in movie scenes in a sound carrying atmosphere; no matter how far away the explosion, or sound originates, we hear it simulatenously with the explosion, gun shot, etc.

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                                    Even assuming you could hear the noise, given the distances involved the noise would be extremely delayed. This is actually a common error in movie scenes in a sound carrying atmosphere; no matter how far away the explosion, or sound originates, we hear it simulatenously with the explosion, gun shot, etc.

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                                    El Corazon
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                                    Joe Woodbury wrote:

                                    This is actually a common error in movie scenes in a sound carrying atmosphere; no matter how far away the explosion, or sound originates, we hear it simulatenously with the explosion, gun shot, etc.

                                    Not if my theory is correct.... :cool: of course it means that you can reprogram the computers to produce any sound you want. Lion roars instead of torpedo sounds.... psycho theme music instead of engine noises.... and nails drawn across the chalk board instead of laser blasts. :) just imagine the fun you could have replacing the noises in the computer to harass your flying buddies. :laugh:

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                                    • D Dario Solera

                                      A nice question: how the hell can spaceships produce noise when they're in space? No air -> no noise. So, every science fiction film is wrong with that, isn't it? Obviously a space battle wouldn't be that cool without sound, explosions and so on, though. :-D

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                                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                      While there is no medium for sound to travel the electromagnetic disturbence from effects in space reach the hull of the observer ship causing the ships atmosphere to vibrate at certain frequencys most notablely the brown noise.

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                                        That has been brought up in many of the extras CDs for the movies I have. They always end up saying that exterior shots are really boring without sound and tend to agree with them. If you are going to have a dog-fight in space you really do need sound. Besides, it is a Sci-Fi flick so who says it needs to be real :) I also seem to remember an old Sci-Fi movie where they used real guns outside. Guys in space suits but real guns. Seemed really odd to me...


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                                        I believe the 'real' guns would still work. The gas is ignited inside the casing of the cartridge and does not depend upon there being an atmosphere to work. However, for every actiont here is the opposite reaction, so you would fire a small bullet, but the energy of it going one way sends you in another. I like lasers better, you can fire and stay in one place :suss:

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