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VS2003 SP1 released - Mike gets the beer ;)

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  • M Marc Clifton

    Along the lines of, who watches the watchers, or who tests the testers, how do you know the SP won't actually break more things than it fixes? I find it odd that people jump on an SP, but they're reluctant to jump on a product until there's been at least one SP. I guess there's a history of crappy first releases but good SP's? Marc

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    Rob Graham
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    The download page having broken links to the fix list, and the release notes being a zip file of web pages with the same broken link doesn't give me a warm feeling about the level of testing that went int releasing this SP...:suss:

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    • R Rob Graham

      The download page having broken links to the fix list, and the release notes being a zip file of web pages with the same broken link doesn't give me a warm feeling about the level of testing that went int releasing this SP...:suss:

      Last modified: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:28:58 AM -- typo

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      Marc Clifton
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      Rob Graham wrote:

      The download page having broken links to the fix list, and the release notes being a zip file of web pages with the same broken link doesn't give me a war feeling about the level of testing that went int releasing this SP...

      ROTF! I clicked on the hotfix link, and got this site[^] that looks like Thai or something. Marc

      Thyme In The Country

      Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Along the lines of, who watches the watchers, or who tests the testers, how do you know the SP won't actually break more things than it fixes? I find it odd that people jump on an SP, but they're reluctant to jump on a product until there's been at least one SP. I guess there's a history of crappy first releases but good SP's? Marc

        Thyme In The Country

        Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        Along the lines of, who watches the watchers, or who tests the testers, how do you know the SP won't actually break more things than it fixes?

        Easy - you wait for other suckers to try it out first. ;) Actually, i'd be downloading it now if i could find real release notes anywhere. :doh:

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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          Along the lines of, who watches the watchers, or who tests the testers, how do you know the SP won't actually break more things than it fixes?

          Easy - you wait for other suckers to try it out first. ;) Actually, i'd be downloading it now if i could find real release notes anywhere. :doh:

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          Marc Clifton
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          Shog9 wrote:

          Easy - you wait for other suckers to try it out first.

          Exactly! I'm already having fun watching, and I don't even use VS2003 anymore! :) Marc

          Thyme In The Country

          Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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          • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

            Mike Diack, that is. He's just posted the links on the Yahoo WTL group: Download: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=69d2219f-ce82-46a5-8aec-072bd4bb955e&displaylang=en[^] Release Notes: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=dc455c5d-2c99-43cc-ad71-4e0beb71bfa7&displaylang=en[^]

            Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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            Going to email him a picture of a :beer: ? :-D

            The tigress is here :-D

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            • R Rob Graham

              The download page having broken links to the fix list, and the release notes being a zip file of web pages with the same broken link doesn't give me a warm feeling about the level of testing that went int releasing this SP...:suss:

              Last modified: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:28:58 AM -- typo

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              Dan Neely
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              while you're dissing the sloppyness, look at the title of the release notes page. The english one says vs2002 ;)

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              • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                I noticed that too. Presumably they haven't noticed yet. :doh:

                Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                Warren Stevens
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                Broken release notes on a major service pack that took 3 years to get out. Always a good sign of attention to detail (or lack thereof!) :sigh: Any bets on regressions?


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                • D Dan Neely

                  anyone know what's been changed/fixed? The english release notes point to a dead knowlegebase article.

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                  Sentinel_13
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                  Well one thing is for sure: you won't catch me downloading this Service Pack until they get the Release Notes back up. I want to know exactly what this thing is doing before I install it. I really don't feel like re-imaging my PC because my registry got irrevocably deranged. X|

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                  • W Warren Stevens

                    Broken release notes on a major service pack that took 3 years to get out. Always a good sign of attention to detail (or lack thereof!) :sigh: Any bets on regressions?


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                    Lee Coward
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                    Hi Folks, Yes we know about the broken link and are working to get the KB up. Shooting for 11:30am PST but will probably be a bit longer. Regards, Lee Visual Studio PM

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                    • Q QuiJohn

                      So, as someone who skipped VS2003 and jumped straight to VS2005, I may have to wait a bit for a service pack, eh? :sigh:

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                      AntiSilence
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                      I currently only use C# 2005 Express, so would a VS2005 SP fix apply to this as well as VS? :confused:

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