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  • B brianwelsch

    Here in the US we have Postal(Zip) Codes in the format of 12345-1234. The first 5 are required, and the last 4 help further sort for individual destinations. Called "Zip plus four". Anyway, I know Canadian codes are usually 6, but have come across a 15 character zip code field and was wondering if there was perhaps a system similar to our Zip+4. I couldn't see anything on Canada Post suggesting another system. Any other countries have use for a 15 character postal code?

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    Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      Paul Watson wrote:

      I then end up using 90210 as my postal code.

      That's what I used to use too :-)

      Regards, Nish


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      • R RC_Sebastien_C

        Near Ottawa, on the Quebec side of the river

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        wow, does that mean A1A 1A1 is a valid postal code in Canada?

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        • B brianwelsch

          Here in the US we have Postal(Zip) Codes in the format of 12345-1234. The first 5 are required, and the last 4 help further sort for individual destinations. Called "Zip plus four". Anyway, I know Canadian codes are usually 6, but have come across a 15 character zip code field and was wondering if there was perhaps a system similar to our Zip+4. I couldn't see anything on Canada Post suggesting another system. Any other countries have use for a 15 character postal code?

          BW


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          -- Steven Wright

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          Brian, Could you reproduce it for us? Canada only has 6 digits... going in order from bigger area in the first digit/letter to your actual street in the last digit. Ontario (11 million people) have PCs starting with K,L,M,N,P (no vowels). Boy... aren't postal codes just the most exciting things to read about? LOL Chad

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          • P Paul Watson

            Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

            Shog9 wrote:

            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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            Chadlling
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            Must be an age thing. When I need a US zip code for a web site... I always put in 60609... which was the zip code that was mentioned in all the "markson Goodson" Tv game shows like "Let's make a deal" and that nonsense that we watched as kids. Now it is 90210... makes sense! Chad

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            • N Nish Nishant

              You saw a 15 digit Canadian postal code??? :confused:

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              brianwelsch
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              No, the field itself is 15 characters long, but I haven't seen any data that reaches that max length. I suppose they might have been allowing for future expansion, there are no design docs of course.

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                wow, does that mean A1A 1A1 is a valid postal code in Canada?

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                Lucy, Naw... no vowels allowed! Chad

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                • C Chadlling

                  Brian, Could you reproduce it for us? Canada only has 6 digits... going in order from bigger area in the first digit/letter to your actual street in the last digit. Ontario (11 million people) have PCs starting with K,L,M,N,P (no vowels). Boy... aren't postal codes just the most exciting things to read about? LOL Chad

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                  Chadlling wrote:

                  aren't postal codes just the most exciting things to read about?

                  :-D Absolutely!

                  Chadlling wrote:

                  Canada only has 6 digits

                  That's what I thought. As far as reproducing, I have no actual data, just the field definition allows for 15.

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                  • M Maximilien

                    H0H-0H0 Is the postal code of Santa Claus. Full address : Santa Claus 1 North Pole Canada H0H-0H0 ;) BTW, this really works, around christmas time, children can send mail to that address, and some postal workers will relay the mail to Santa, and he will answer back.


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                    Maximillien, I learned from experience that you don't need the "1" as in 1 North Pole. just Santa Claus North Pole H0H 0H0 will do it. How many folks here didn't know that Santa Claus is a Canadian. Makes sense... he does have a good beer gut going!!

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      HollyHooo wrote:

                      Near Ottawa, on the Quebec side of the river

                      Cool - we've been to Ottawa once - which I thought was a nicer looking city compared to Toronto. And we intend to check out Quebec too (during a long weekend).

                      Regards, Nish


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                      Nish, Go check out Ottawa in January... it looks great... just like the inside of your freezer when you are getting your ice cream out. Chad

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                      • M Maximilien

                        H0H-0H0 Is the postal code of Santa Claus. Full address : Santa Claus 1 North Pole Canada H0H-0H0 ;) BTW, this really works, around christmas time, children can send mail to that address, and some postal workers will relay the mail to Santa, and he will answer back.


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                        hate to break childhood dreams... but sometimes he's too busy and an Elf forges his signature.

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                        • C Chadlling

                          Lucy, Naw... no vowels allowed! Chad

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Chadlling wrote:

                          Naw... no vowels allowed!

                          Cool. I never noticed that till you mentioned it :-)

                          Regards, Nish


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                          • P Paul Watson

                            Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                            brianwelsch
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                            Contrary to quaint sayings, Paul, the customer is not always right, nor does mother always know best. If the computer says your code is in invalid, then it clearly is invalid. You know it's freethinkers like yourself what make this business so difficult sometimes. :sigh: Seriously, though, you make a good point. Our product is currently only in NA, but I will keep Waterford in mind if I work any more global products in the future.

                            BW


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                            • B brianwelsch

                              Here in the US we have Postal(Zip) Codes in the format of 12345-1234. The first 5 are required, and the last 4 help further sort for individual destinations. Called "Zip plus four". Anyway, I know Canadian codes are usually 6, but have come across a 15 character zip code field and was wondering if there was perhaps a system similar to our Zip+4. I couldn't see anything on Canada Post suggesting another system. Any other countries have use for a 15 character postal code?

                              BW


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                              -- Steven Wright

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              If you're planning on going postal, I don't think you need to worry about codes. Marc

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                              • C Chadlling

                                Nish, Go check out Ottawa in January... it looks great... just like the inside of your freezer when you are getting your ice cream out. Chad

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Chadlling wrote:

                                Go check out Ottawa in January... it looks great... just like the inside of your freezer when you are getting your ice cream out.

                                :-D

                                Regards, Nish


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                                • B brianwelsch

                                  Here in the US we have Postal(Zip) Codes in the format of 12345-1234. The first 5 are required, and the last 4 help further sort for individual destinations. Called "Zip plus four". Anyway, I know Canadian codes are usually 6, but have come across a 15 character zip code field and was wondering if there was perhaps a system similar to our Zip+4. I couldn't see anything on Canada Post suggesting another system. Any other countries have use for a 15 character postal code?

                                  BW


                                  If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
                                  -- Steven Wright

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                                  we only have four digits ;P. (Which actually is sometimes very annoying when you have to fill in I-net forms where they require a 5 digit zip code)

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                                  • P Paul Watson

                                    Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                    No postal coders - err, codes, sound like paradise to me :)


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                                    • N Nish Nishant

                                      HollyHooo wrote:

                                      Near Ottawa, on the Quebec side of the river

                                      Cool - we've been to Ottawa once - which I thought was a nicer looking city compared to Toronto. And we intend to check out Quebec too (during a long weekend).

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                      RC_Sebastien_C
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                                      I think I remember your telling about the tulip festival. That was too bad, Ottawa is a nice place to visit (usualy). Let me know if you'd like suggestions when you get to plan your Quebec trip!

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                                      • R RC_Sebastien_C

                                        I think I remember your telling about the tulip festival. That was too bad, Ottawa is a nice place to visit (usualy). Let me know if you'd like suggestions when you get to plan your Quebec trip!

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                                        HollyHooo wrote:

                                        Let me know if you'd like suggestions when you get to plan your Quebec trip!

                                        Thanks. :-)

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                        • N Nish Nishant

                                          Chadlling wrote:

                                          Naw... no vowels allowed!

                                          Cool. I never noticed that till you mentioned it :-)

                                          Regards, Nish


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                                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                          Me neither. They should put that as a citizenship test question :)

                                          Best, Jun

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