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  • P Paul Watson

    Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

    Shog9 wrote:

    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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    Chadlling
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    Must be an age thing. When I need a US zip code for a web site... I always put in 60609... which was the zip code that was mentioned in all the "markson Goodson" Tv game shows like "Let's make a deal" and that nonsense that we watched as kids. Now it is 90210... makes sense! Chad

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    • N Nish Nishant

      You saw a 15 digit Canadian postal code??? :confused:

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      brianwelsch
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      No, the field itself is 15 characters long, but I haven't seen any data that reaches that max length. I suppose they might have been allowing for future expansion, there are no design docs of course.

      BW


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      • L lucy 0

        wow, does that mean A1A 1A1 is a valid postal code in Canada?

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        Lucy, Naw... no vowels allowed! Chad

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        • C Chadlling

          Brian, Could you reproduce it for us? Canada only has 6 digits... going in order from bigger area in the first digit/letter to your actual street in the last digit. Ontario (11 million people) have PCs starting with K,L,M,N,P (no vowels). Boy... aren't postal codes just the most exciting things to read about? LOL Chad

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          Chadlling wrote:

          aren't postal codes just the most exciting things to read about?

          :-D Absolutely!

          Chadlling wrote:

          Canada only has 6 digits

          That's what I thought. As far as reproducing, I have no actual data, just the field definition allows for 15.

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          • M Maximilien

            H0H-0H0 Is the postal code of Santa Claus. Full address : Santa Claus 1 North Pole Canada H0H-0H0 ;) BTW, this really works, around christmas time, children can send mail to that address, and some postal workers will relay the mail to Santa, and he will answer back.


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            Chadlling
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            Maximillien, I learned from experience that you don't need the "1" as in 1 North Pole. just Santa Claus North Pole H0H 0H0 will do it. How many folks here didn't know that Santa Claus is a Canadian. Makes sense... he does have a good beer gut going!!

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            • N Nish Nishant

              HollyHooo wrote:

              Near Ottawa, on the Quebec side of the river

              Cool - we've been to Ottawa once - which I thought was a nicer looking city compared to Toronto. And we intend to check out Quebec too (during a long weekend).

              Regards, Nish


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              Chadlling
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              Nish, Go check out Ottawa in January... it looks great... just like the inside of your freezer when you are getting your ice cream out. Chad

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              • M Maximilien

                H0H-0H0 Is the postal code of Santa Claus. Full address : Santa Claus 1 North Pole Canada H0H-0H0 ;) BTW, this really works, around christmas time, children can send mail to that address, and some postal workers will relay the mail to Santa, and he will answer back.


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                RC_Sebastien_C
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                hate to break childhood dreams... but sometimes he's too busy and an Elf forges his signature.

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                • C Chadlling

                  Lucy, Naw... no vowels allowed! Chad

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Chadlling wrote:

                  Naw... no vowels allowed!

                  Cool. I never noticed that till you mentioned it :-)

                  Regards, Nish


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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    brianwelsch
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                    Contrary to quaint sayings, Paul, the customer is not always right, nor does mother always know best. If the computer says your code is in invalid, then it clearly is invalid. You know it's freethinkers like yourself what make this business so difficult sometimes. :sigh: Seriously, though, you make a good point. Our product is currently only in NA, but I will keep Waterford in mind if I work any more global products in the future.

                    BW


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                    • B brianwelsch

                      Here in the US we have Postal(Zip) Codes in the format of 12345-1234. The first 5 are required, and the last 4 help further sort for individual destinations. Called "Zip plus four". Anyway, I know Canadian codes are usually 6, but have come across a 15 character zip code field and was wondering if there was perhaps a system similar to our Zip+4. I couldn't see anything on Canada Post suggesting another system. Any other countries have use for a 15 character postal code?

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      If you're planning on going postal, I don't think you need to worry about codes. Marc

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                      • C Chadlling

                        Nish, Go check out Ottawa in January... it looks great... just like the inside of your freezer when you are getting your ice cream out. Chad

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Chadlling wrote:

                        Go check out Ottawa in January... it looks great... just like the inside of your freezer when you are getting your ice cream out.

                        :-D

                        Regards, Nish


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                        • B brianwelsch

                          Here in the US we have Postal(Zip) Codes in the format of 12345-1234. The first 5 are required, and the last 4 help further sort for individual destinations. Called "Zip plus four". Anyway, I know Canadian codes are usually 6, but have come across a 15 character zip code field and was wondering if there was perhaps a system similar to our Zip+4. I couldn't see anything on Canada Post suggesting another system. Any other countries have use for a 15 character postal code?

                          BW


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                          -- Steven Wright

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                          we only have four digits ;P. (Which actually is sometimes very annoying when you have to fill in I-net forms where they require a 5 digit zip code)

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                          • P Paul Watson

                            Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                            peterchen
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                            No postal coders - err, codes, sound like paradise to me :)


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                            • N Nish Nishant

                              HollyHooo wrote:

                              Near Ottawa, on the Quebec side of the river

                              Cool - we've been to Ottawa once - which I thought was a nicer looking city compared to Toronto. And we intend to check out Quebec too (during a long weekend).

                              Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                              RC_Sebastien_C
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                              I think I remember your telling about the tulip festival. That was too bad, Ottawa is a nice place to visit (usualy). Let me know if you'd like suggestions when you get to plan your Quebec trip!

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                                I think I remember your telling about the tulip festival. That was too bad, Ottawa is a nice place to visit (usualy). Let me know if you'd like suggestions when you get to plan your Quebec trip!

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                HollyHooo wrote:

                                Let me know if you'd like suggestions when you get to plan your Quebec trip!

                                Thanks. :-)

                                Regards, Nish


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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  Chadlling wrote:

                                  Naw... no vowels allowed!

                                  Cool. I never noticed that till you mentioned it :-)

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                  Jun Du
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                                  Me neither. They should put that as a citizenship test question :)

                                  Best, Jun

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                                  • C Chadlling

                                    Brian, Could you reproduce it for us? Canada only has 6 digits... going in order from bigger area in the first digit/letter to your actual street in the last digit. Ontario (11 million people) have PCs starting with K,L,M,N,P (no vowels). Boy... aren't postal codes just the most exciting things to read about? LOL Chad

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                                    Blake Miller
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                                    Yes, but coders going postal are even more fun to read about!

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                                    • C Chadlling

                                      Lucy, Naw... no vowels allowed! Chad

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                                      Denevers
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                                      uh ?. My office postal code is G1K 9A9

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                                        uh ?. My office postal code is G1K 9A9

                                        Denevers

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                                        Chris Meech
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                                        That would put you in the heart of Qubec City[^]. :)

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                                        • P Paul Watson

                                          Postal Code Rant. Ireland, except for the Dublin area, doesn't have postal codes. I live in Waterford city which is in Waterford county. No postal code. The number of websites that force me to enter in Waterford as a postal code is nuts. Some will even say that is an invalid postal code and not let me sign up (I then end up using 90210 as my postal code. Beverly Hills!) So please. If you are working on a system that records postal codes make it optional or let it contain a good number of characters and don't go assuming your ten year old postal code database knows better than people who live in the area. :)

                                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                          Roger Wright
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                                          Good observation. I've often wondered what other countries do for postal sorting. From now on every form I design will have a large field marked "Postal Code or 'Waterford'" please.

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