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  • L liona

    I am a canadian and I might have some insight to what you would be looking for. But feel free to ask other question if you have them. As for your first criteria English as the first language I would not suggest Quebec, or some parts of New Brunswick. The place that would match your description closest would be Vancouver British Columbia. Good skiing is in a few spots Mont Tremblant Quebec, Banff National Park Alberta, Whistler BC, Marble Mountain Newfoundland Eastern Canada might be a little too cold for you in the winter and the wages are lower on that side. Speaking of wages and such you should really have a look at monster.ca to find salaries. They are very different depending on where you will live so to give you a standard salary would be difficult. For information in regards to papers, permission etc have a look at this web site... http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomer/guide/index.html[^] -- modified at 8:10 Tuesday 22nd August, 2006

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    Thanks! I will check your links and ask you som more questions later on.

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      liona wrote:

      I am a canadian

      How come your profile says Afghanistan then? :rolleyes:

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      LOL I didn't realize that it did

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        liona wrote:

        I am a canadian

        How come your profile says Afghanistan then? :rolleyes:

        Regards, Nish


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        Afghanistan is 2:nd from the bottom of my moving abroad list :-D

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          It's a two-language country. Immigration certainly requires a certain proficiency in French.

          Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.

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          Immigration only requires a minimal level of proficiency in one of the two official languages.

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            VAIO Blue wrote:

            IMO, the best place in Canada is Vancouver.

            Shucks - haven't been there. But everyone says it's the most beautiful city in Canada.

            Regards, Nish


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            73Zeppelin
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            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            But everyone says it's the most beautiful city in Canada.

            Naw, that would be Montreal.

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              Håkan Nilsson wrote:

              English as 1:st language,

              I think you'll also need a certain level of French to get into Canada for an extended period.

              Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.

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              Steve_Harris wrote:

              I think you'll also need a certain level of French to get into Canada for an extended period.

              No.

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                What's going on in Calgary? Except hockey of course!

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                Stay away from Calgary. They have massive swings in weather. Can go from -20C one day to +12 the next. I don't recommend it. If you like the seasonal weather, etc... then I would suggest Toronto or just outside of Toronto in one of the suburbs so you avoid the hassle of life in the big city but can benefit from being close to it. Furthermore, there is decent skiing north of Toronto as well as abundant nature and lakes, outdoor activities, mountain biking, etc... no more than 2 hours away. You also have the benefit of multiculturalism. I've been living outside of Canada for about 3 years now, so I don't know if there are any new immigration rules, but at one time they were placing immigrants in cities that needed them the most, so I am not sure if you are entirely free to pick and choose where you want to live...I may be wrong, so it is best to check with customs and immigration Canada.

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                • H hairy_hats

                  It's a two-language country. Immigration certainly requires a certain proficiency in French.

                  Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.

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                  Steve_Harris wrote:

                  It's a two-language country. Immigration certainly requires a certain proficiency in French.

                  No, actually. Capability in one official language is sufficient.

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                    The only French I've heard spoken in Canada is on the stupid planes.

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    The only French I've heard spoken in Canada is on the stupid planes.

                    Go to Sudbury. Actually, don't go to Sudbury...nevermind that. Lots of French in Quebec and on the east coast. In the Greater Toronto Area where I grew up, none.

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                    • L liona

                      LOL I didn't realize that it did

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                      liona wrote:

                      LOL I didn't realize that it did

                      Nice, now that youve fixed it :-)

                      Regards, Nish


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                        Afghanistan is 2:nd from the bottom of my moving abroad list :-D

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                        Håkan Nilsson wrote:

                        Afghanistan is 2:nd from the bottom of my moving abroad list

                        :-D

                        Regards, Nish


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                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          But everyone says it's the most beautiful city in Canada.

                          Naw, that would be Montreal.

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                          thealj wrote:

                          Naw, that would be Montreal.

                          Never heard anyone say that before. Between Montreal and Quebec city, which'd be a better place to visit?

                          Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                            What's going on in Calgary? Except hockey of course!

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                            > What's going on in Calgary? oil. No provincial sales tax in Calgary, they even mail checks back because they have surpluses. but expect to spend a lot of $ on housing. for IT in Canada, the city where there is more demand are Toronto, Montreal and Calgary. In my opinion, Quebec City is the most beautiful city, for it's old europe style, but it does not impress european as much as north american for obvious reason. does not meet your first criteria either (french first). And not as hot as rest of Canada. > Except hockey of course! oh -- you really had to bring this up haven't you ?. congrat for the gold medal anyway. -- modified at 9:00 Tuesday 22nd August, 2006

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                              thealj wrote:

                              Naw, that would be Montreal.

                              Never heard anyone say that before. Between Montreal and Quebec city, which'd be a better place to visit?

                              Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                              Montreal hands down. I was thrown out of a place in Quebec city for speaking English some years ago! Ah, the good ole days... I prefer Montreal because it is more cosmopolitan, the restaruants are much, much better and there are more things to see and do (*exception, see below). The probability of receiving hostile treatment for being and English speaker (even though I speak French) is much lower as well. I just preferred Montreal - more jazz clubs, better food, nice places to walk...beautiful city. Almost moved there but ended up in Switzerland instead. Long story... HOWEVER, if you prefer historic things, then Quebec is the place to go. The "old city" is quite nice to explore and there are many more historical sites.

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                                > What's going on in Calgary? oil. No provincial sales tax in Calgary, they even mail checks back because they have surpluses. but expect to spend a lot of $ on housing. for IT in Canada, the city where there is more demand are Toronto, Montreal and Calgary. In my opinion, Quebec City is the most beautiful city, for it's old europe style, but it does not impress european as much as north american for obvious reason. does not meet your first criteria either (french first). And not as hot as rest of Canada. > Except hockey of course! oh -- you really had to bring this up haven't you ?. congrat for the gold medal anyway. -- modified at 9:00 Tuesday 22nd August, 2006

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                                Denevers wrote:

                                In my opinion, Quebec City is the most beautiful city, for it's old europe style

                                Curious, I always thought Montreal was more European (and beautiful) than Quebec city. Although I did have some bad experiences in Quebec city that colour my opinion of it.

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                                  Montreal hands down. I was thrown out of a place in Quebec city for speaking English some years ago! Ah, the good ole days... I prefer Montreal because it is more cosmopolitan, the restaruants are much, much better and there are more things to see and do (*exception, see below). The probability of receiving hostile treatment for being and English speaker (even though I speak French) is much lower as well. I just preferred Montreal - more jazz clubs, better food, nice places to walk...beautiful city. Almost moved there but ended up in Switzerland instead. Long story... HOWEVER, if you prefer historic things, then Quebec is the place to go. The "old city" is quite nice to explore and there are many more historical sites.

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                                  thealj wrote:

                                  The probability of receiving hostile treatment for being and English speaker (even though I speak French) is much lower as well.

                                  I was told that French people are more tolerant towards non-white folks who can't speak French. Surely they wouldn't expect 2 Indians from the south of India to know French!

                                  thealj wrote:

                                  HOWEVER, if you prefer historic things, then Quebec is the place to go. The "old city" is quite nice to explore and there are many more historical sites.

                                  Ah, then it looks like I'd prefer Quebec. It'd be interesting to see if both cities can be forced into a 3 day weekend (considering I am located in Toronto).

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                    thealj wrote:

                                    The probability of receiving hostile treatment for being and English speaker (even though I speak French) is much lower as well.

                                    I was told that French people are more tolerant towards non-white folks who can't speak French. Surely they wouldn't expect 2 Indians from the south of India to know French!

                                    thealj wrote:

                                    HOWEVER, if you prefer historic things, then Quebec is the place to go. The "old city" is quite nice to explore and there are many more historical sites.

                                    Ah, then it looks like I'd prefer Quebec. It'd be interesting to see if both cities can be forced into a 3 day weekend (considering I am located in Toronto).

                                    Regards, Nish


                                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                    I was told that French people are more tolerant towards non-white folks who can't speak French. Surely they wouldn't expect 2 Indians from the south of India to know French!

                                    You could be right! Can't really say because I'm an English speaking white guy! :-D

                                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                    Ah, then it looks like I'd prefer Quebec. It'd be interesting to see if both cities can be forced into a 3 day weekend (considering I am located in Toronto).

                                    This could be difficult. I think you would spend the first and last day travelling, in which case you would really have one day to see both cities. In my opinion, you would need at least 2 days to see Montreal and 2 days to sufficiently see Quebec. However, you could probably do 1 city in a day depending on your itinerary. If you like history, etc.. then I suggest Quebec city to you.

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                                      thealj wrote:

                                      Naw, that would be Montreal.

                                      Never heard anyone say that before. Between Montreal and Quebec city, which'd be a better place to visit?

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                      Depends. For old buildings (by north american standards), historical sites, a European feel, go for Quebec city. It's the oldest fortified city in north america. For the city experience, activities, cultural events, go to Montreal. It is an awesome city.

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                                        Montreal hands down. I was thrown out of a place in Quebec city for speaking English some years ago! Ah, the good ole days... I prefer Montreal because it is more cosmopolitan, the restaruants are much, much better and there are more things to see and do (*exception, see below). The probability of receiving hostile treatment for being and English speaker (even though I speak French) is much lower as well. I just preferred Montreal - more jazz clubs, better food, nice places to walk...beautiful city. Almost moved there but ended up in Switzerland instead. Long story... HOWEVER, if you prefer historic things, then Quebec is the place to go. The "old city" is quite nice to explore and there are many more historical sites.

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                                        Things might have changed a lot since, they made efforts to increase tourism. I'm french speaking and visited Quebec city last summer. We were first greeted in English in most restaurants and English was heard everywhere.

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                                          Håkan Nilsson wrote:

                                          English as 1:st language,

                                          I think you'll also need a certain level of French to get into Canada for an extended period.

                                          Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.

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                                          OK, OK, I stand corrected! :-O

                                          Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.

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