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    Why bother exploring Mars when Earth is so close by? There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean. I am open to discuss.:)

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      Why bother exploring Mars when Earth is so close by? There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean. I am open to discuss.:)

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      Joe Woodbury
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      Because it's there. (I'm not being sarcastic.)

      Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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        Why bother exploring Mars when Earth is so close by? There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean. I am open to discuss.:)

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        El Corazon
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        EscapeKey wrote:

        There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean.

        because it is more exciting. There are programs to visit the depths of the ocean. They get minor grants, minor coverage, and even when they discover a new species of octopus or squid, no one cares. Finding the Titanic got some coverage, but it got more when they turned it into a movie. The ocean is already here, therefore it is ignored, Mars is out there, it is unknown and beyond reach, therefore it is the goal... the grass is always greener... even when the soil is red. ;)

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          EscapeKey wrote:

          There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean.

          because it is more exciting. There are programs to visit the depths of the ocean. They get minor grants, minor coverage, and even when they discover a new species of octopus or squid, no one cares. Finding the Titanic got some coverage, but it got more when they turned it into a movie. The ocean is already here, therefore it is ignored, Mars is out there, it is unknown and beyond reach, therefore it is the goal... the grass is always greener... even when the soil is red. ;)

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          Do you think this is the right path?

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            EscapeKey wrote:

            There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean.

            because it is more exciting. There are programs to visit the depths of the ocean. They get minor grants, minor coverage, and even when they discover a new species of octopus or squid, no one cares. Finding the Titanic got some coverage, but it got more when they turned it into a movie. The ocean is already here, therefore it is ignored, Mars is out there, it is unknown and beyond reach, therefore it is the goal... the grass is always greener... even when the soil is red. ;)

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            Roger Wright
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            Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

            the grass is always greener... even when the soil is red.

            So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

            "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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              Why bother exploring Mars when Earth is so close by? There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean. I am open to discuss.:)

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              Chris Losinger
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              why bother studying physics when there are unsolved math problems ?

              image processing | blogging

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                Do you think this is the right path?

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                El Corazon
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                EscapeKey wrote:

                Do you think this is the right path?

                There is no "right" path, per se. There is only no path, a circle (which is equivalent to no path in the long run), and a path. The right path can only be evaluated in hindsight. What will we find in the ocean? angry volumes of giant squid? mineral wealth? a new method of energy? a cure for cancer? What will we find on Mars? angry multitudes of Bobs? mineral wealth? a new method of energy? a cure for cancer? No one knows until hindsight what we gained. And even that is usually a bad view. What did we gain from the Moon? most would say "little" or "nothing". But in the process of the "path" we gained fuel cells, new methods for cooling and storing liquid gasses, lasers, velcro, many plastics, new manufacturing methods, computer advancements, communication advancements, weather prediction advancements, food processing, food storage, medicines, medical techniques, and the list is seemingly endless, not to mention the list of things that those then went on to generate. None of those were found on the Moon, but all of them were found on the path to the Moon. Choosing to go no where, with no path, no hope, no goal, no drive, no hole to fill... that is the only bad path. The rest is up to someone who had nothing to do with the path to claim, with no knowledge of what he is already using because someone looked beyond, or below, and tried to get there. -- modified at 22:38 Tuesday 29th August, 2006

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                  Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                  the grass is always greener... even when the soil is red.

                  So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

                  "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                  El Corazon
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                  Roger Wright wrote:

                  So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

                  it grows fine on the other side of the fence... ;P

                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    EscapeKey wrote:

                    Do you think this is the right path?

                    There is no "right" path, per se. There is only no path, a circle (which is equivalent to no path in the long run), and a path. The right path can only be evaluated in hindsight. What will we find in the ocean? angry volumes of giant squid? mineral wealth? a new method of energy? a cure for cancer? What will we find on Mars? angry multitudes of Bobs? mineral wealth? a new method of energy? a cure for cancer? No one knows until hindsight what we gained. And even that is usually a bad view. What did we gain from the Moon? most would say "little" or "nothing". But in the process of the "path" we gained fuel cells, new methods for cooling and storing liquid gasses, lasers, velcro, many plastics, new manufacturing methods, computer advancements, communication advancements, weather prediction advancements, food processing, food storage, medicines, medical techniques, and the list is seemingly endless, not to mention the list of things that those then went on to generate. None of those were found on the Moon, but all of them were found on the path to the Moon. Choosing to go no where, with no path, no hope, no goal, no drive, no hole to fill... that is the only bad path. The rest is up to someone who had nothing to do with the path to claim, with no knowledge of what he is already using because someone looked beyond, or below, and tried to get there. -- modified at 22:38 Tuesday 29th August, 2006

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    Joe Woodbury
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                    Work on your phrasing and you could become a Mystic Technomonk

                    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                      Why bother exploring Mars when Earth is so close by? There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean. I am open to discuss.:)

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                      RoswellNX
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                      with all the nuclear arming and pollution going on, we'll have to look for someplace else to go a hundred or so years from now Roswell

                      "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                      Antonio VillaRaigosa
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                        why bother studying physics when there are unsolved math problems ?

                        image processing | blogging

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                        Physics is based on Math, in case you don't know.

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                          the grass is always greener... even when the soil is red.

                          So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

                          "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                          Joe Woodbury
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                          Roger Wright wrote:

                          So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

                          Theory one: You live in the desert. (That's the great part about Arizona, you can put in desert landscaping and get away with it.)

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                            Work on your phrasing and you could become a Mystic Technomonk

                            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                            El Corazon
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                            Joe Woodbury wrote:

                            Work on your phrasing and you could become a Mystic Technomonk

                            I'm just a little ol' hick kid from an ex-mining town, who writes programs. I live alone in my cave with DSL, home networked electrical outlets, and endless supplies of Chai and Diet Coke....

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                              the grass is always greener... even when the soil is red.

                              So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

                              "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                              El Corazon
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                              Roger Wright wrote:

                              So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

                              I thought of another answer.... but you better sit down... take a deep breath.... take a long draught of beer if available.... ready? It grew fine in California... why did you leave? ;P *ducks and runs*

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                Joe Woodbury wrote:

                                Work on your phrasing and you could become a Mystic Technomonk

                                I'm just a little ol' hick kid from an ex-mining town, who writes programs. I live alone in my cave with DSL, home networked electrical outlets, and endless supplies of Chai and Diet Coke....

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                and endless supplies of Chai and Diet Coke

                                As long as you don't mix the two together. :laugh:

                                Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                                  Joe Woodbury wrote:

                                  Work on your phrasing and you could become a Mystic Technomonk

                                  I'm just a little ol' hick kid from an ex-mining town, who writes programs. I live alone in my cave with DSL, home networked electrical outlets, and endless supplies of Chai and Diet Coke....

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  Polymorpher
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                                  LOL, I thought I was the only one

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                                    why bother studying physics when there are unsolved math problems ?

                                    image processing | blogging

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                                    Polymorpher
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                                    Good point. We havent given up on studying our oceans etc...we just arent limiting ourselves to only that.

                                    Pablo

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                                      Why bother exploring Mars when Earth is so close by? There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean. I am open to discuss.:)

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                                      Maxwell Chen
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                                      EscapeKey wrote:

                                      Why bother exploring Mars when Earth is so close by? There are still lots of unknown about earth and the ocean.

                                      OK! Your name is EscapeKey. I assume that you are male. Let's say: You are somewhere and there is a pretty lady next to you. She smiles to you. Are you going to say "hi" to her? Or you would just keep "exploring" yourself? :-D;P


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                                        Roger Wright wrote:

                                        So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

                                        I thought of another answer.... but you better sit down... take a deep breath.... take a long draught of beer if available.... ready? It grew fine in California... why did you leave? ;P *ducks and runs*

                                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        I'm not fond of police states, and prefer to live in America, even if lawns don't thrive.

                                        "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                                          Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                          the grass is always greener... even when the soil is red.

                                          So why can't I get a lawn to grow?

                                          "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                                          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                          Brown fingers, maybe? ;)

                                          Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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