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  • K Kevin McFarlane

    Released Monday... http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/content/content.aspx?ContentID=3311[^]

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    Marc Clifton
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    A beta service pack for what is essentially a beta product. Actually, that sort of makes sense. Marc

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    • N Nish Nishant

      Chris Maunder wrote:

      A beta of a service pack.

      So if you install a beta SP on a release-version, what do you get? A mixed-breed half-beta half-pure something I suppose. :-D

      Regards, Nish


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      Whatever it is I'd want it chained up so it couldn't scare the neighbours.

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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      • K Kevin McFarlane

        Released Monday... http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/content/content.aspx?ContentID=3311[^]

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        Is there a list of fixes for this service pack anywhere, other than the very vague description on the link you provided? Mike

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          Is there a list of fixes for this service pack anywhere, other than the very vague description on the link you provided? Mike

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          Isn't that the purpose of the Beta release? So that by the time they do a full release, their testers will have determined what's actually fixed?

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          • K Kevin McFarlane

            Released Monday... http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/content/content.aspx?ContentID=3311[^]

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            There seem to be a lot of different kinds of "issues" at Microsoft, i.e. "Supportability issues", "Eligable functionality issues" etc. Interesting, our issue list is broken down by product then by how quickly it needs to be fixed, i.e. "Next maintenance release", "Optional" and "wish list" for future releases. We rate issues by how they will affect our customers regardless of what it takes to fix them, MS seems to rate them by how they will affect Microsoft. I guess that's the difference between a small nimble company and a big bloated one.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              A beta of a service pack. Isn't that almost some kind of tautology?

              cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Kevin McFarlane
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              Windows service packs have had betas for years, ever since Win NT 4's later ones in fact. VS 2003 SP1 had a beta too.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                A beta service pack for what is essentially a beta product. Actually, that sort of makes sense. Marc

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                Kevin McFarlane
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                VS 2003 SP1 had a beta too.

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                • M Mike_V

                  Is there a list of fixes for this service pack anywhere, other than the very vague description on the link you provided? Mike

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                  Fixes? I think it'll just be an exe file with a PE header and 100mb trailing zeros. The next service pack will be VS.NET 2007

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                  • K Kevin McFarlane

                    Windows service packs have had betas for years, ever since Win NT 4's later ones in fact. VS 2003 SP1 had a beta too.

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    Why let facts get in the way of a good story? ;P

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Whatever it is I'd want it chained up so it couldn't scare the neighbours.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      Paul Conrad
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                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                      Whatever it is I'd want it chained up so it couldn't scare the neighbours.

                      That was what I was thinking. Some kind of vicious mutt :)

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        A beta of a service pack. Isn't that almost some kind of tautology?

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        It's beta than nothing.


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                          Isn't that the purpose of the Beta release? So that by the time they do a full release, their testers will have determined what's actually fixed?

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                          Shog9 wrote:

                          So that by the time they do a full release, their testers will have determined what's actually fixed?

                          Nah, so that by the time they do a full release, we would have found out what they've actually fixed for them :)

                          Ryan

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                            There seem to be a lot of different kinds of "issues" at Microsoft, i.e. "Supportability issues", "Eligable functionality issues" etc. Interesting, our issue list is broken down by product then by how quickly it needs to be fixed, i.e. "Next maintenance release", "Optional" and "wish list" for future releases. We rate issues by how they will affect our customers regardless of what it takes to fix them, MS seems to rate them by how they will affect Microsoft. I guess that's the difference between a small nimble company and a big bloated one.

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                            If anybody bothers to test the service pack, could you tell me if they manage to fix the problem I am having with the menu control, (I am having one of those high productivity moments MS promised me) My menu control seems to want to go vertical even though I have set it to horizontal, and no matter what I do I can't make it go Horizontal. This has indeed boosted my Productivity as I have had to spend an hour to try and get this too work. Who knows what I would've of done with that hour maybe, Ballmer forbid, spend time with my Kids or wife??;) -- modified at 5:18 Sunday 24th September, 2006


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                            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                              It's beta than nothing.


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                              Siderite Zaqwedex
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                              =)) good one!

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                              • K Kevin McFarlane

                                VS 2003 SP1 had a beta too.

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                                Isn't VS 2003 still in beta?

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                                  Isn't VS 2003 still in beta?

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                                  Kevin McFarlane
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                                  No VS 2003 SP1 has made it a final release! :)

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    Why let facts get in the way of a good story? ;P

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                    Dean Moe
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                                    :laugh:LOL :laugh: - ROF!!!!!! :cool:

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