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  • P Paul Watson

    Any thoughts on Inzamam-ul-Haq's ban[^]?

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

    Shog9 wrote:

    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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    Paul Watson wrote:

    Any thoughts on Inzamam-ul-Haq's ban[^]?

    Tragic, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and England will forever be screwed by the racist tag that will be raised everytime any other test nation doesn't like a decision.

    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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      Apurva Kaushal wrote:

      Somehow true, but one more thing is there ball tampering allegation a very serious issue and you must be very much sure prior to raise that.

      Yeah, that's where Hair screwed himself - there was absolutely zero TV evidence of ball tampering. And it was very strange that Hair chose to risk making a hard-to-prove accusation.

      Regards, Nish


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      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

      Yeah, that's where Hair screwed himself - there was absolutely zero TV evidence of ball tampering.

      Since when has there needed to be TV footage before an umpire can enforce a rule?

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        As for poor Hair, looks like his umpiring career is finished - he was a good umpire, but he has some attitude issues, and at times it felt as if he thought that he was the Don Bradman of umpires and could treat an international game like a children's match played in his back yard.

        Can't agree Nish, I think he took his job seriously and applied the rules as strictly as they were written, none of this 18 degree bending crap. I'm assuming that now the laws will be rewritten to state that tampering with anything short of a power tool will be acceptable and if your from the Asian nations small handyman level power tools will be acceptable. It's a joke and until such times as white teams are forced to bat 6 bowlers at the top of the order, then a blind armless man as the wicket keeper and finally 4 batsmen as the bowlers the Asian teams won't be happy. As for the ICC they won't be happy until the Asian teams tell them they can be. Reverse racism gone stupid. If Australia tampered with the all and was caught by a Pakistani umpire Ricky Ponting would be publicly raped by a telegraph pole and the Paki umpire given his 72 virgins in advance. <edit>Shit, I can't even spell raped correctly.</edit> -- modified at 13:56 Thursday 28th September, 2006

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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        Michael Martin wrote:

        If Australia tampered with the all and was caught by a Pakistani umpire Ricky Ponting would be publicly rped by a telegraph pole and the Paki umpire given his 72 virgins in advance.

        :laugh::laugh::laugh:


        --[:jig:]-- [My Current Status] Link2006 wrote:Let's take it outside of CP Jeremy : Please don't.I would love to see this.I'm making the popcorn already.

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          This is changing my perception about him. Pakistan is not new for ball tamperings. They've been doing it for decades. I thought this would be just another instance of it and this guy is genuine. But now I'm :~. My favourite umpires are Shepherd & Billy Bowden<-- this guy is too cool man!


          --[:jig:]-- [My Current Status] Link2006 wrote:Let's take it outside of CP Jeremy : Please don't.I would love to see this.I'm making the popcorn already.

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          VuNic wrote:

          Billy Bowden<-- this guy is too cool man!

          He's a brainless twat that isn't worthy of wiping Hair's arse as far as umpiring goes.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

            On the other hand, Gary Kirsten was found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute by wearing a colorful bandana with white clothing and was fined 10% of his match fee[^] :wtf:

            Cheers, Vikram.


            "whoever I am, I'm not other people" - Corinna John.

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            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

            On the other hand, Gary Kirsten was found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute by wearing a colorful bandana with white clothing and was fined 10% of his match fee[^]

            The only thing consistent about the ICC has been their constant inconsistency in such decisions.

            Regards, Nish


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              Paul Watson wrote:

              Any thoughts on Inzamam-ul-Haq's ban[^]?

              Tragic, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and England will forever be screwed by the racist tag that will be raised everytime any other test nation doesn't like a decision.

              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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              Michael Martin wrote:

              Tragic, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and England will forever be screwed by the racist tag that will be raised everytime any other test nation doesn't like a decision.

              I don't think Pakistan accused Hair of racism. They just accused him of being inefficient, and biased against them (Pakistan specifically).

              Regards, Nish


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              • P Paul Watson

                Oh yeah. I hate to fall back to blaming umpires but he is the first umpire I have ever thought to be biased against certain teams and to make decisions on that bias. Any Springbok (or Protea) captain would groan when he heard Hair was to be the umpire for their game. Hair has made some disparaging remarks about South African players too. All in all not someone I like.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                Shog9 wrote:

                eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                Paul Watson wrote:

                Oh yeah. I hate to fall back to blaming umpires but he is the first umpire I have ever thought to be biased against certain teams and to make decisions on that bias. Any Springbok (or Protea) captain would groan when he heard Hair was to be the umpire for their game.

                Why? Cause he wouldn't take bribes?

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                  VuNic wrote:

                  Billy Bowden<-- this guy is too cool man!

                  He's a brainless twat that isn't worthy of wiping Hair's arse as far as umpiring goes.

                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                  But Michael can name any kiwi umpire that you like? :rolleyes:


                  --[:jig:]-- [My Current Status] Link2006 wrote:Let's take it outside of CP Jeremy : Please don't.I would love to see this.I'm making the popcorn already.

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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    As for poor Hair, looks like his umpiring career is finished - he was a good umpire, but he has some attitude issues, and at times it felt as if he thought that he was the Don Bradman of umpires and could treat an international game like a children's match played in his back yard.

                    Can't agree Nish, I think he took his job seriously and applied the rules as strictly as they were written, none of this 18 degree bending crap. I'm assuming that now the laws will be rewritten to state that tampering with anything short of a power tool will be acceptable and if your from the Asian nations small handyman level power tools will be acceptable. It's a joke and until such times as white teams are forced to bat 6 bowlers at the top of the order, then a blind armless man as the wicket keeper and finally 4 batsmen as the bowlers the Asian teams won't be happy. As for the ICC they won't be happy until the Asian teams tell them they can be. Reverse racism gone stupid. If Australia tampered with the all and was caught by a Pakistani umpire Ricky Ponting would be publicly raped by a telegraph pole and the Paki umpire given his 72 virgins in advance. <edit>Shit, I can't even spell raped correctly.</edit> -- modified at 13:56 Thursday 28th September, 2006

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                    Michael Martin wrote:

                    If Australia tampered with the all and was caught by a Pakistani umpire Ricky Ponting would be publicly raped by a telegraph pole and the Paki umpire given his 72 virgins in advance.

                    Not Ponting, that'd be Lee. Though as his captain, Ponting may be held responsible too.

                    Regards, Nish


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                      But Michael can name any kiwi umpire that you like? :rolleyes:


                      --[:jig:]-- [My Current Status] Link2006 wrote:Let's take it outside of CP Jeremy : Please don't.I would love to see this.I'm making the popcorn already.

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                      VuNic wrote:

                      But Michael can name any kiwi umpire that you like? :rolleyes:

                      He's the only one on the international scene that I know of and he is shithouse. In the past I have had no problem with any of the Kiwi umps. The only one in the past couple of years I had a problem with is Bucknor and that is only cause I think he is past his best and making some very poor decisions. Some for and some against Australia, but too many for soemone at his level.

                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                        Michael Martin wrote:

                        Tragic, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and England will forever be screwed by the racist tag that will be raised everytime any other test nation doesn't like a decision.

                        I don't think Pakistan accused Hair of racism. They just accused him of being inefficient, and biased against them (Pakistan specifically).

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                        No, but the ICC and umpires now give different treatment to the 4 nations I mentioned compared to the rest. It will now be worse and all involved will be worried about being called racist. It's crap.

                        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                          No, but the ICC and umpires now give different treatment to the 4 nations I mentioned compared to the rest. It will now be worse and all involved will be worried about being called racist. It's crap.

                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                          Michael Martin wrote:

                          No, but the ICC and umpires now give different treatment to the 4 nations I mentioned compared to the rest. It will now be worse and all involved will be worried about being called racist. It's crap.

                          What's funny is that, in cricket, white-nations are actual a minority :-)

                          Regards, Nish


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                            Michael Martin wrote:

                            No, but the ICC and umpires now give different treatment to the 4 nations I mentioned compared to the rest. It will now be worse and all involved will be worried about being called racist. It's crap.

                            What's funny is that, in cricket, white-nations are actual a minority :-)

                            Regards, Nish


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                            But still they rule. :)

                            Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                              But still they rule. :)

                              Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                              Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                              But still they rule.

                              Yeah, but things are changing.

                              Regards, Nish


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                                Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                                But still they rule.

                                Yeah, but things are changing.

                                Regards, Nish


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                                true and India(specially Dalmiya) has a very good contribution towards that. :)

                                Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  As for poor Hair, looks like his umpiring career is finished - he was a good umpire, but he has some attitude issues, and at times it felt as if he thought that he was the Don Bradman of umpires and could treat an international game like a children's match played in his back yard.

                                  Can't agree Nish, I think he took his job seriously and applied the rules as strictly as they were written, none of this 18 degree bending crap. I'm assuming that now the laws will be rewritten to state that tampering with anything short of a power tool will be acceptable and if your from the Asian nations small handyman level power tools will be acceptable. It's a joke and until such times as white teams are forced to bat 6 bowlers at the top of the order, then a blind armless man as the wicket keeper and finally 4 batsmen as the bowlers the Asian teams won't be happy. As for the ICC they won't be happy until the Asian teams tell them they can be. Reverse racism gone stupid. If Australia tampered with the all and was caught by a Pakistani umpire Ricky Ponting would be publicly raped by a telegraph pole and the Paki umpire given his 72 virgins in advance. <edit>Shit, I can't even spell raped correctly.</edit> -- modified at 13:56 Thursday 28th September, 2006

                                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                  Michael Martin wrote:

                                  Reverse racism

                                  There's a mind numbingly stupid term.

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                                    Paul Watson wrote:

                                    Any thoughts on Inzamam-ul-Haq's ban[^]?

                                    I think he let his country down badly - and I am immensely surprised that the Pak Cricket board didn't punish him for this. As for poor Hair, looks like his umpiring career is finished - he was a good umpire, but he has some attitude issues, and at times it felt as if he thought that he was the Don Bradman of umpires and could treat an international game like a children's match played in his back yard. *But* in future, umpires will be at a disadvantage - I doubt if anyone would dare to raise a ball tampering allegation from now on - unless they want to risk facing the same hassles Hair had to. Not good obviously. Overall, some peculiar decisions by the ICC (which is consistent with how they've behaved in the past).

                                    Regards, Nish


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                                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                    I think he let his country down badly - and I am immensely surprised that the Pak Cricket board didn't punish him for this.

                                    There will never be a winner in this and the only loser is the game of cricket. Its really sad its come to this. I cant wait for the season to start here, going to be a long summer of cricket :)

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                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      As for poor Hair, looks like his umpiring career is finished - he was a good umpire, but he has some attitude issues, and at times it felt as if he thought that he was the Don Bradman of umpires and could treat an international game like a children's match played in his back yard.

                                      Can't agree Nish, I think he took his job seriously and applied the rules as strictly as they were written, none of this 18 degree bending crap. I'm assuming that now the laws will be rewritten to state that tampering with anything short of a power tool will be acceptable and if your from the Asian nations small handyman level power tools will be acceptable. It's a joke and until such times as white teams are forced to bat 6 bowlers at the top of the order, then a blind armless man as the wicket keeper and finally 4 batsmen as the bowlers the Asian teams won't be happy. As for the ICC they won't be happy until the Asian teams tell them they can be. Reverse racism gone stupid. If Australia tampered with the all and was caught by a Pakistani umpire Ricky Ponting would be publicly raped by a telegraph pole and the Paki umpire given his 72 virgins in advance. <edit>Shit, I can't even spell raped correctly.</edit> -- modified at 13:56 Thursday 28th September, 2006

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                      Michael Martin wrote:

                                      and if your from the Asian nations small handyman level power tools will be acceptable

                                      The stats tell a different story[^]. Towards the end of the article, you can see a list of playing nations with the number of punishments.  Pakistan heads the list.

                                      Regards Senthil _____________________________ My Blog | My Articles | WinMacro

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