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  • M Marc Clifton

    Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc

    Thyme In The Country

    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it.

    I downloaded it, installed it, ran it... I heard it was supposed to add Intellisense-style behavior for SQL editing, but i never saw any sign of it in any editor i use. Several weeks later, i rebooted and noticed it was still around, so i uninstalled it.

    I am tired and sleepy that's why i am at office. -- Adnan Siddiqi, The Soapbox's Future

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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      is being completely rewritten

      In other words, we fired the moron who wrote a bunch of unmaintainable spagetti ? What other reason would they have to 'completely rewrite' it ? How does this engender confidence ? Would more people buy Office if Microsoft claimed they 'completely rewrote' it every time ?

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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      Chris Maunder
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      Would more people buy Office if Microsoft claimed they 'completely rewrote' it every time ?

      No, but evidently they would if you were talking about an OS...

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Christian Graus wrote:

        Would more people buy Office if Microsoft claimed they 'completely rewrote' it every time ?

        No, but evidently they would if you were talking about an OS...

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        David Cunningham
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        Hey, aren't you completely re-writing CodeProject? ;) At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.

        David

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        • C Chris Maunder

          Christian Graus wrote:

          Would more people buy Office if Microsoft claimed they 'completely rewrote' it every time ?

          No, but evidently they would if you were talking about an OS...

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          Christian Graus
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          Well, that's different. I *still* think Windows 2000 is the peak of Microsofts OS range. Everything before sucked, everything after is full of fluff. NT4 wasn't too shabby, either, as a dev environment. But, can I realistically use my W2000 licence while the world keeps moving 'forward' to whatever Microsoft decides to visit upon us ? And most people are in the same boat, one way or the other, they'll buy the new OS because it comes with a PC, or because it's the most straightforward option. I doubt many people even consider how much was rewritten, etc. Most people probably say 'look at the colors....' ( or colours, if they can spell )

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it.

            I downloaded it, installed it, ran it... I heard it was supposed to add Intellisense-style behavior for SQL editing, but i never saw any sign of it in any editor i use. Several weeks later, i rebooted and noticed it was still around, so i uninstalled it.

            I am tired and sleepy that's why i am at office. -- Adnan Siddiqi, The Soapbox's Future

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            David Stone
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            I think you're supposed to use the editor inside SQL Prompt's executable. ;)


            And I get on my knees and pray. We don't get fooled again.

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            • D David Cunningham

              Hey, aren't you completely re-writing CodeProject? ;) At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.

              David

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              Chris Maunder
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              I'm not rewriting. I'm reimplementing current intellectual property using state of the art technology utilising web services, a managed environment and best practices and aggressive refactoring...Oh my God - what's that up in sky? <quickly runs back to corner while Dave is distracted>

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              • D David Cunningham

                Hey, aren't you completely re-writing CodeProject? ;) At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.

                David

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                Nish Nishant
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                David Cunningham wrote:

                At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.

                Yeah, what's with that, eh? A lot of DB and .NET talk in hushed whispers.

                Regards, Nish


                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                • D David Stone

                  I think you're supposed to use the editor inside SQL Prompt's executable. ;)


                  And I get on my knees and pray. We don't get fooled again.

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                  David Stone wrote:

                  I think you're supposed to use the editor inside SQL Prompt's executable.

                  Well, that would explain it, i guess.

                  I am tired and sleepy that's why i am at office. -- Adnan Siddiqi, The Soapbox's Future

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc

                    Thyme In The Country

                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                    Edbert P
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                    I downloaded and tried SQLPrompt (AFAIK the previous version is free, i.e. it costs nothing, zip, nil, nada). My experience with it is...okay. It was quite helpful in writing Stored Procedures as it listed the tables and columns existing in the database (I believe the intellisense works when creating SP using MSSQL 2000 Enterprise Manager, and also in Query Analyzer). However, it is nothing more than that and I definitely wouldn't want to pay $99 (AU$ 150?) for it. Maybe if it's $5 then I would, but I rarely use it and won't care much even if it suddenly disappear from my PC. PS: Funnily enough I haven't received any e-mails from them even though I downloaded and used it :-D

                    "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc

                      Thyme In The Country

                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                      Ed Gadziemski
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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote.

                      Why would you need a quote? They already said the freakin' price is $99.

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS".

                      Doesn't this belong in the Soapbox? You can't use 4 letter words like B**S in the Lounge. :)


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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc

                        Thyme In The Country

                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                        Josh Smith
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                        SELECT COUNT(*) FROM Vendors v WHERE v.SendsAnnoyingMarketingEmails = 1 GO :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: -- Result: [ERROR: SQL Prompt cannot handle values exceeding 4236427649246284678786859594393] :doh:

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I'm not rewriting. I'm reimplementing current intellectual property using state of the art technology utilising web services, a managed environment and best practices and aggressive refactoring...Oh my God - what's that up in sky? <quickly runs back to corner while Dave is distracted>

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Sounds to me like the people in the corner are googling for cool buzzwords.

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                          • E Edbert P

                            I downloaded and tried SQLPrompt (AFAIK the previous version is free, i.e. it costs nothing, zip, nil, nada). My experience with it is...okay. It was quite helpful in writing Stored Procedures as it listed the tables and columns existing in the database (I believe the intellisense works when creating SP using MSSQL 2000 Enterprise Manager, and also in Query Analyzer). However, it is nothing more than that and I definitely wouldn't want to pay $99 (AU$ 150?) for it. Maybe if it's $5 then I would, but I rarely use it and won't care much even if it suddenly disappear from my PC. PS: Funnily enough I haven't received any e-mails from them even though I downloaded and used it :-D

                            "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia

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                            DreadPirateRoberts
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                            I use SQL Prompt at work in SQL Server 2000 Query Analyzer. It's ok. The intellisense does work, but not 100%. With the cryptic names our genius DBA's gave the table and column names (we just CAN'T teach those old dogs new tricks), it does help a lot. But when it doesn't work, like if I type too fast, it can't keep up, and just gets annoying. The intellisense in Sub-selects also get confused between table and column names. But, the company bought it, so I'll use it. But I would spend my own money on it. I'm very selective about the reality I choose to accept.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc

                              Thyme In The Country

                              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                              Brad Raulston
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                              I picked it up when it was called Prompt SQL, it's a useful tool, especially when you're deal with undocumented db schema's. That said, I paid $19.00 for the original "as long as you live" license, then it was bought by red-gate, supposedly the license info was transferred and now they want to charge again. I won't buy it or any of their other products.:mad:

                              Brad

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                              • N Nish Nishant

                                David Cunningham wrote:

                                At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.

                                Yeah, what's with that, eh? A lot of DB and .NET talk in hushed whispers.

                                Regards, Nish


                                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog

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                                David Cunningham
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                                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                eh?

                                Look, look everyone: we got him!

                                David

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc

                                  Thyme In The Country

                                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                  People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                  Stuart Dootson
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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS".

                                  I prefer to call them all 'Issues'...when they're about my code :)

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc

                                    Thyme In The Country

                                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                    Rocky Moore
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                                    I tried it and it seem to work as expected, but when I found out how much they were charging for it, no way! Too much for keeping my lazy!

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                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      eh?

                                      Look, look everyone: we got him!

                                      David

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                                      Colin Angus Mackay
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                                      He's been doing that for a few weeks.


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                                        I think you're supposed to use the editor inside SQL Prompt's executable. ;)


                                        And I get on my knees and pray. We don't get fooled again.

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                                        Colin Angus Mackay
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                                        It works for me inside Query Analyzer and SQL Server 2005 Management Studio.


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                                          Hey, aren't you completely re-writing CodeProject? ;) At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.

                                          David

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                                          So, does he get a Canadian citizenship for that? :)

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