Now THAT's marketng!!!
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Christian Graus wrote:
Would more people buy Office if Microsoft claimed they 'completely rewrote' it every time ?
No, but evidently they would if you were talking about an OS...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Hey, aren't you completely re-writing CodeProject? ;) At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.
David
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Christian Graus wrote:
Would more people buy Office if Microsoft claimed they 'completely rewrote' it every time ?
No, but evidently they would if you were talking about an OS...
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Well, that's different. I *still* think Windows 2000 is the peak of Microsofts OS range. Everything before sucked, everything after is full of fluff. NT4 wasn't too shabby, either, as a dev environment. But, can I realistically use my W2000 licence while the world keeps moving 'forward' to whatever Microsoft decides to visit upon us ? And most people are in the same boat, one way or the other, they'll buy the new OS because it comes with a PC, or because it's the most straightforward option. I doubt many people even consider how much was rewritten, etc. Most people probably say 'look at the colors....' ( or colours, if they can spell )
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it.
I downloaded it, installed it, ran it... I heard it was supposed to add Intellisense-style behavior for SQL editing, but i never saw any sign of it in any editor i use. Several weeks later, i rebooted and noticed it was still around, so i uninstalled it.
I am tired and sleepy that's why i am at office. -- Adnan Siddiqi, The Soapbox's Future
I think you're supposed to use the editor inside SQL Prompt's executable. ;)
And I get on my knees and pray. We don't get fooled again.
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Hey, aren't you completely re-writing CodeProject? ;) At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.
David
I'm not rewriting. I'm reimplementing current intellectual property using state of the art technology utilising web services, a managed environment and best practices and aggressive refactoring...Oh my God - what's that up in sky? <quickly runs back to corner while Dave is distracted>
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Hey, aren't you completely re-writing CodeProject? ;) At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.
David
David Cunningham wrote:
At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.
Yeah, what's with that, eh? A lot of DB and .NET talk in hushed whispers.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog -
I think you're supposed to use the editor inside SQL Prompt's executable. ;)
And I get on my knees and pray. We don't get fooled again.
David Stone wrote:
I think you're supposed to use the editor inside SQL Prompt's executable.
Well, that would explain it, i guess.
I am tired and sleepy that's why i am at office. -- Adnan Siddiqi, The Soapbox's Future
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Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithI downloaded and tried SQLPrompt (AFAIK the previous version is free, i.e. it costs nothing, zip, nil, nada). My experience with it is...okay. It was quite helpful in writing Stored Procedures as it listed the tables and columns existing in the database (I believe the intellisense works when creating SP using MSSQL 2000 Enterprise Manager, and also in Query Analyzer). However, it is nothing more than that and I definitely wouldn't want to pay $99 (AU$ 150?) for it. Maybe if it's $5 then I would, but I rarely use it and won't care much even if it suddenly disappear from my PC. PS: Funnily enough I haven't received any e-mails from them even though I downloaded and used it :-D
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia
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Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote.
Why would you need a quote? They already said the freakin' price is $99.
Marc Clifton wrote:
Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS".
Doesn't this belong in the Soapbox? You can't use 4 letter words like B**S in the Lounge. :)
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Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithSELECT COUNT(*) FROM Vendors v WHERE v.SendsAnnoyingMarketingEmails = 1 GO :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: -- Result: [ERROR: SQL Prompt cannot handle values exceeding 4236427649246284678786859594393] :doh:
:josh: My WPF Blog[^]
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I'm not rewriting. I'm reimplementing current intellectual property using state of the art technology utilising web services, a managed environment and best practices and aggressive refactoring...Oh my God - what's that up in sky? <quickly runs back to corner while Dave is distracted>
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Sounds to me like the people in the corner are googling for cool buzzwords.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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I downloaded and tried SQLPrompt (AFAIK the previous version is free, i.e. it costs nothing, zip, nil, nada). My experience with it is...okay. It was quite helpful in writing Stored Procedures as it listed the tables and columns existing in the database (I believe the intellisense works when creating SP using MSSQL 2000 Enterprise Manager, and also in Query Analyzer). However, it is nothing more than that and I definitely wouldn't want to pay $99 (AU$ 150?) for it. Maybe if it's $5 then I would, but I rarely use it and won't care much even if it suddenly disappear from my PC. PS: Funnily enough I haven't received any e-mails from them even though I downloaded and used it :-D
"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." - Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin Edbert Sydney, Australia
I use SQL Prompt at work in SQL Server 2000 Query Analyzer. It's ok. The intellisense does work, but not 100%. With the cryptic names our genius DBA's gave the table and column names (we just CAN'T teach those old dogs new tricks), it does help a lot. But when it doesn't work, like if I type too fast, it can't keep up, and just gets annoying. The intellisense in Sub-selects also get confused between table and column names. But, the company bought it, so I'll use it. But I would spend my own money on it. I'm very selective about the reality I choose to accept.
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Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithI picked it up when it was called Prompt SQL, it's a useful tool, especially when you're deal with undocumented db schema's. That said, I paid $19.00 for the original "as long as you live" license, then it was bought by red-gate, supposedly the license info was transferred and now they want to charge again. I won't buy it or any of their other products.:mad:
Brad
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David Cunningham wrote:
At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.
Yeah, what's with that, eh? A lot of DB and .NET talk in hushed whispers.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blogNishant Sivakumar wrote:
eh?
Look, look everyone: we got him!
David
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Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS".
I prefer to call them all 'Issues'...when they're about my code :)
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Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithI tried it and it seem to work as expected, but when I found out how much they were charging for it, no way! Too much for keeping my lazy!
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Zune to be built by Toshiba
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
eh?
Look, look everyone: we got him!
David
He's been doing that for a few weeks.
Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * UK Security Evangelists On Tour (2nd November, Edinburgh) * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog
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I think you're supposed to use the editor inside SQL Prompt's executable. ;)
And I get on my knees and pray. We don't get fooled again.
It works for me inside Query Analyzer and SQL Server 2005 Management Studio.
Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * UK Security Evangelists On Tour (2nd November, Edinburgh) * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog
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Hey, aren't you completely re-writing CodeProject? ;) At least I think that's what you do with those folks huddled over there in the corner.
David
So, does he get a Canadian citizenship for that? :)
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Dear Marc, A while ago, you started using SQL Prompt, IntelliSense style auto-completion for SQL Server. I did? Uh, no, I just downloaded it but never tried it. SQL Prompt 3 is being completely rewritten to take into account the requests and reports we are receiving. Reports? REPORTS??? Like, calling a terrorist a freedom fighter? Try "BUGS". The full price, when it is released in October, will be $195 but we would like to offer you the opportunity to pre-order your copy, before the release, for $99. So kind of them. Improvements already made include: * Significantly increased speed and accuracy * Keystrokes much closer to Visual Studio * Greater ease of use * Fewer prompts for authentication * New tables recognized as you create them * Improved JOIN support To leave feedback, and to keep up to date with further improvements, visit the forum at: deleted. Read your own dang email. I'm sure you got one too. To pre-order SQL Prompt 3 at $99, please reply to this email, and I will send you a quote. We are confident that SQL Prompt 3 will be an indispensable addition to your toolbox. Regards, Richard Pickul Bold is mine. And no, this is not a complaint, an insinuation of a complaint, a criticism, condemnation, or any other negative slur I am frequent to make upon our dear marketing bretheren. This was fully expected, anticipated, and predicted. Toowwwittt!!!! :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithYou agreed to bend over and be probed when you downloaded a free copy of their software. It was on the download page. "I, Marc Clifton, agree to be buggered by any and all email from the makers, associates, marketers, promoters, 3rd parties, chums, frat boys, children, grand-children, political party, religious sect and pyramid schemes of SQL Prompt." :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.