CMMI Level 5
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Nice. AFAIK, we've never done a formal evaluation, but based on a quick Google Code Search vanity search, it appears the code i'm writing now is still young at heart. :->
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
There are several levels in the CMM. Once they acheive it, Client feels somewhat comfortable in dealing with those companies. Not to mention, there are cases, where companies lobbied evaluators to achieve CMM. All in the game!
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In other words, you're right back where you started ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
In other words, you're right back where you started ?
Yeah - except you now have CMM recognition :-) It's very similar to the Windows UI development. We had flat ugly UIs in Windows 3.1, that got improved in 98, and got really good in 2000. Then XP came out with cartoonish UIs, and now Vista gives us dreadful VB4-style UIs and everything's semi-transparent, so you can't read anything etc.
Regards, Nish
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The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q
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There are several levels in the CMM. Once they acheive it, Client feels somewhat comfortable in dealing with those companies. Not to mention, there are cases, where companies lobbied evaluators to achieve CMM. All in the game!
Yeah, i know. I'm sure it's a good warm fuzzy thing to claim if you're a consulting firm.
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
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The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q
So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write? :-D
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Christian Graus wrote:
In other words, you're right back where you started ?
Yeah - except you now have CMM recognition :-) It's very similar to the Windows UI development. We had flat ugly UIs in Windows 3.1, that got improved in 98, and got really good in 2000. Then XP came out with cartoonish UIs, and now Vista gives us dreadful VB4-style UIs and everything's semi-transparent, so you can't read anything etc.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog -
Joe Q wrote:
What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it.
DoD work? They need all paper trails to have signed, notarized paper trails. It's easier to spend tons of cash that way, doncha know. :) My company's at CMM 3. Repeatability of process in a big IT organization is a Good Thing, but you lose a bit of efficiency and speed of implementation at the same time. Good always comes with a bit of bad, though.
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By the end of CMM you learn to go home early :). That is CMM!
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So.. what's CMMI Level 5 good for? Something to impress the ladies with in the bar? ;)
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So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write? :-D
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
Andy Brummer wrote:
So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write?
I WISH for 5 pages per SLOC!!!:laugh: It is more documentation. For very large projects, just let everybody know what's going on, it seems to work. For the 6 or 7 man projects I work on, it's a huge burden that you wind up asking for more money and schdule for.
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So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write? :-D
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
:) Well said! I hate that. It becomes even more complicated when you involve Rational Unified Process (RUP) with that. God Save them! I like more of agile process. Client will have the feel of product more faster by having this type of process. NOT the document disaster !
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Andy Brummer wrote:
So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write?
I WISH for 5 pages per SLOC!!!:laugh: It is more documentation. For very large projects, just let everybody know what's going on, it seems to work. For the 6 or 7 man projects I work on, it's a huge burden that you wind up asking for more money and schdule for.
If you have the patience for it, I suppose it is a good niche to work in. Companies should be able to demand enough money for the certification to make it worthwhile. I had a manager that was trying to get us to move to CMM3 and spending extra time on the documentation had a negative impact on code quality and execution, since schedule and resources were fixed.
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
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:) Well said! I hate that. It becomes even more complicated when you involve Rational Unified Process (RUP) with that. God Save them! I like more of agile process. Client will have the feel of product more faster by having this type of process. NOT the document disaster !
Some people just seem to like the accessories more then the actual product.
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
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If you have the patience for it, I suppose it is a good niche to work in. Companies should be able to demand enough money for the certification to make it worthwhile. I had a manager that was trying to get us to move to CMM3 and spending extra time on the documentation had a negative impact on code quality and execution, since schedule and resources were fixed.
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
I suppose when company gets a certification. It is not mandatory to use that always. Some client does not want such process to be followed as they want to cut down costs on documentation. Simple initial documentation is fair enough. ( I am talking abt agile proces here) 1. Use Case Specification. 2. Use Case Realization
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If you have the patience for it, I suppose it is a good niche to work in. Companies should be able to demand enough money for the certification to make it worthwhile. I had a manager that was trying to get us to move to CMM3 and spending extra time on the documentation had a negative impact on code quality and execution, since schedule and resources were fixed.
Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder
If you get a good group of people together, who all know what they're doing, who interface when they need to, then they sort of come up with their own process to get the job done, fast, efficent, high quality. They know what they're doing. Most of the time you have some good and not good people. Then you need a documented process, have enforcement of the process, have documents to say what they're doing, and more documents to say what to do.
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The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q