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  • S Sreenath Madyastha

    By the end of CMM you learn to go home early :). That is CMM!

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    Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

    By the end of CMM you learn to go home early

    Well you don't want to hang around a place like this to long.

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      So.. what's CMMI Level 5 good for? Something to impress the ladies with in the bar? ;)

      -- Verletzen zerfetzen zersetzen zerstören Doch es darf nicht mir gehören Ich muss zerstören

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      Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

      So.. what's CMMI Level 5 good for? Something to impress the ladies with in the bar?

      Either to show off your LARGE CMMI level ;) to impress people or a check mark. It's suppose to help us to continually imporove.

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      • K KevinMac

        How long have you been working on the certification?

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        We were certified CMMI level 3 2 years ago (I think) and it took a couple of years before that. But before that we were working on the CMM levels. So short answer...forever!

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        • A Andy Brummer

          So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write? :-D

          Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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          Andy Brummer wrote:

          So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write?

          I WISH for 5 pages per SLOC!!!:laugh: It is more documentation. For very large projects, just let everybody know what's going on, it seems to work. For the 6 or 7 man projects I work on, it's a huge burden that you wind up asking for more money and schdule for.

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          • A Andy Brummer

            So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write? :-D

            Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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            Sreenath Madyastha
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            :) Well said! I hate that. It becomes even more complicated when you involve Rational Unified Process (RUP) with that. God Save them! I like more of agile process. Client will have the feel of product more faster by having this type of process. NOT the document disaster !

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              Andy Brummer wrote:

              So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write?

              I WISH for 5 pages per SLOC!!!:laugh: It is more documentation. For very large projects, just let everybody know what's going on, it seems to work. For the 6 or 7 man projects I work on, it's a huge burden that you wind up asking for more money and schdule for.

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              If you have the patience for it, I suppose it is a good niche to work in. Companies should be able to demand enough money for the certification to make it worthwhile. I had a manager that was trying to get us to move to CMM3 and spending extra time on the documentation had a negative impact on code quality and execution, since schedule and resources were fixed.

              Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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              • S Sreenath Madyastha

                :) Well said! I hate that. It becomes even more complicated when you involve Rational Unified Process (RUP) with that. God Save them! I like more of agile process. Client will have the feel of product more faster by having this type of process. NOT the document disaster !

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                Some people just seem to like the accessories more then the actual product.

                Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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                • A Andy Brummer

                  If you have the patience for it, I suppose it is a good niche to work in. Companies should be able to demand enough money for the certification to make it worthwhile. I had a manager that was trying to get us to move to CMM3 and spending extra time on the documentation had a negative impact on code quality and execution, since schedule and resources were fixed.

                  Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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                  I suppose when company gets a certification. It is not mandatory to use that always. Some client does not want such process to be followed as they want to cut down costs on documentation. Simple initial documentation is fair enough. ( I am talking abt agile proces here) 1. Use Case Specification. 2. Use Case Realization

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                  • A Andy Brummer

                    If you have the patience for it, I suppose it is a good niche to work in. Companies should be able to demand enough money for the certification to make it worthwhile. I had a manager that was trying to get us to move to CMM3 and spending extra time on the documentation had a negative impact on code quality and execution, since schedule and resources were fixed.

                    Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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                    If you get a good group of people together, who all know what they're doing, who interface when they need to, then they sort of come up with their own process to get the job done, fast, efficent, high quality. They know what they're doing. Most of the time you have some good and not good people. Then you need a documented process, have enforcement of the process, have documents to say what they're doing, and more documents to say what to do.

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                    • J Joe Q

                      The Company I work for just achived CMMI level 5!!!! :-D We just completed the audit a few minutes ago, but we had worked for years to get to that point. I'm just so glad this audit is over and we don't have to be audited again for 3 years! What does this mean to our company...I'm told there was a business case for it. What that business case is I'm not sure. But the president of the company wanted it so we did it. I just wanted to share. Since it's about 1 pm here and the audit if finished, I think I'll go home early. Joe Q

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                      Congratulations, now your customers know you make good documentation and you work very slow.

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