CMMI Level 5

[KevinMac]

How long have you been working on the certification?

[Shog9 0]

Yeah, i know. I'm sure it's a good warm fuzzy thing to claim if you're a consulting firm.

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[Andy Brummer]

So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write? :-D

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[Joe Q]

You define your standards within the context of the CMMI practices. And by following the model, you're suppose to be doing everything according what you say your doing, and you're trying to improve yourself.

[Joe Q]

Russell Morris wrote:

DoD work? They need all paper trails to have signed, notarized paper trails. It's easier to spend tons of cash that way, doncha know.

Paper trails make the large impersonal corprate world go round.

[Joe Q]

Sreenath Madyastha wrote:

By the end of CMM you learn to go home early

Well you don't want to hang around a place like this to long.

[Joe Q]

Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

So.. what's CMMI Level 5 good for? Something to impress the ladies with in the bar?

Either to show off your LARGE CMMI level ;) to impress people or a check mark. It's suppose to help us to continually imporove.

[Joe Q]

We were certified CMMI level 3 2 years ago (I think) and it took a couple of years before that. But before that we were working on the CMM levels. So short answer...forever!

[Joe Q]

Andy Brummer wrote:

So is that 5 pages of documentation for every line of code you write?

I WISH for 5 pages per SLOC!!!:laugh: It is more documentation. For very large projects, just let everybody know what's going on, it seems to work. For the 6 or 7 man projects I work on, it's a huge burden that you wind up asking for more money and schdule for.

[Sreenath Madyastha]

:) Well said! I hate that. It becomes even more complicated when you involve Rational Unified Process (RUP) with that. God Save them! I like more of agile process. Client will have the feel of product more faster by having this type of process. NOT the document disaster !

[Andy Brummer]

If you have the patience for it, I suppose it is a good niche to work in. Companies should be able to demand enough money for the certification to make it worthwhile. I had a manager that was trying to get us to move to CMM3 and spending extra time on the documentation had a negative impact on code quality and execution, since schedule and resources were fixed.

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[Andy Brummer]

Some people just seem to like the accessories more then the actual product.

Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

[Sreenath Madyastha]

I suppose when company gets a certification. It is not mandatory to use that always. Some client does not want such process to be followed as they want to cut down costs on documentation. Simple initial documentation is fair enough. ( I am talking abt agile proces here) 1. Use Case Specification. 2. Use Case Realization

[Joe Q]

If you get a good group of people together, who all know what they're doing, who interface when they need to, then they sort of come up with their own process to get the job done, fast, efficent, high quality. They know what they're doing. Most of the time you have some good and not good people. Then you need a documented process, have enforcement of the process, have documents to say what they're doing, and more documents to say what to do.

[Lost User]

Congratulations, now your customers know you make good documentation and you work very slow.