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  • C Chris Austin

    That was my first thought. Then I remembered how much I hated reviewing resumes and spending several of the teams hours interviewing candidates.

    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love

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    peterchen
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    That's still much better than dragging someone along who eats more resources than he provides benefits. I don't think a "first offense" should result in "you're fired" - but it's finally best for you and your team.


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      That's still much better than dragging someone along who eats more resources than he provides benefits. I don't think a "first offense" should result in "you're fired" - but it's finally best for you and your team.


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      Chris Austin
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      I agree 100%. I just hate the hiring process.

      A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Fire him and get someone who a) can code b) isn't 5 years old

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        peterchen
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        Not that these people grow on trees...


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        • J Joe Q

          I just did a desktop review of a guys code and sent him some comments. His code was not very good. I saw many potential problems, he used goto's a lot so it was confusing to follow, it wen't against the style guide, it had dead code, and statics so people couldn't use many generic and useful functions. I'm the software lead so I felt like I needed to say something. I e-mailed him, and only him my comments and I only commented on the code, not him personally. I made sure I didn't use the word "you" and re-read it 3 times to try to make it as anti-inflamtory as possible. He responded to my e-mail to everyone, peer's and bosses, with some pointed, personal comments toward me and some about my comments. Also comments about why he did some of what he did (which had no software basis). I'm going to talk to him after lunch (I'm in a different building). Any suggestions on what I say to him? I'll talk about the style guide, but what about the crappy code? I'm used to more rational people. Joe Q -- modified at 13:41 Tuesday 31st October, 2006 [CONTINUED] I really appreciate the advice, I'm going to talk to him now. Calmly, breath deeply, don't say "you're fired" (Actually I can't back that one up anyway), be professional, use the facts only and talk only about the code. Thanks, and now...into the abyss!

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          Alvaro Mendez
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          You've received a lot of great advice. The only thing I can add is to avoid doing this by email in the future. Perhaps you can type up your comments inside an email, without sending it. Then, give him a call and ask him to meet with you in your office to discuss your concerns. You can go over each of the points you typed with him in person, hopefully for a more friendly and polite exchange. It will help you understand why he wrote his code that way, and help him undestand why you feel he shouldn't have. At the end, when all the points have been ironed out, you may wish to send him what's left of the email to him as a reminder of what he should fix or shouldn't do in the future. That's how I would have approached the situation. Regards, Alvaro


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          • L l a u r e n

            "You're fired" ?


            "there is no spoon"
            {some projects} {about me}

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            Allen Anderson
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            I agree, go donald trump on his ass. And when you do, don't forget the little hand gesture he does. 'your (hand motion) fired'. It takes some practice but if you get it right it's worth the extra effort. :)

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            • A Allen Anderson

              I agree, go donald trump on his ass. And when you do, don't forget the little hand gesture he does. 'your (hand motion) fired'. It takes some practice but if you get it right it's worth the extra effort. :)

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              Dan Neely
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              If you're going to insult the person while firing him, make sure you've got a rentacop along for backup.

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                If you're going to insult the person while firing him, make sure you've got a rentacop along for backup.

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                Allen Anderson
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                was a joke. You'd have to see the show to realize how campy it is when he does it.

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                • J Joe Q

                  There have been many problems with this guy before. The company policy is to not get rid of any one because of incompatance, just for not following policies.

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                  Max Santos
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                  Joe Q wrote:

                  The company policy is to not get rid of any one because of incompatance, just for not following policies.

                  Yeah right! This way they (the company) can keep de crap as the good ones get tired of doing everythng and decide to move elsewhere!! Good Policy!! :D

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                  • A Allen Anderson

                    was a joke. You'd have to see the show to realize how campy it is when he does it.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    I saw the end of an episode. I want those 20 minutes of my life back!!!

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                    • J Joe Q

                      There have been many problems with this guy before. The company policy is to not get rid of any one because of incompatance, just for not following policies.

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                      GaryWoodfine
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                      He's and ideal candidate for a promotion to managment then.


                      "a fool will not learn from a wise man, but a wise man will learn from a fool" "It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed." - Theodore Roosevelt "Success is going from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill


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                        He's and ideal candidate for a promotion to managment then.


                        "a fool will not learn from a wise man, but a wise man will learn from a fool" "It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed." - Theodore Roosevelt "Success is going from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill


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                        Joe Q
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                        :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Wait...that's probably true :sigh:

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