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  • C Clickok

    After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


    Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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    Jim Crafton
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    How about a HTTP standard that's actually appropriate to web development? But we all know that's not going to happen!

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      After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


      Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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      t thomsen judoo dk
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      I can! Wait and see ;P

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      • C Clickok

        After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


        Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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        Marc Clifton
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        Clickok wrote:

        After ajax, what can change the future of web development?

        Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra. In other words, something that ultimately and completely obsoletes a format that was originally intended to display........text. Marc

        Thyme In The Country

        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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        • C Clickok

          After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


          Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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          Member 96
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          In South Korea they already have 9MB per second home broadband interent. Quite a lot could be done with that. (Note: MB = MegaBytes per second not mega bits per seconds)

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          • C Clickok

            After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


            Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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            Michael Dunn
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            Wait until all the Bubble 2.0 companies collapse or get bought, then just watch what Google does next (remember, they did the first high-profile Ajax app, GMail)

            --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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            • C Clickok

              After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


              Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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              Joe Woodbury
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              Web sites that don't totally suck.

              Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Clickok wrote:

                After ajax, what can change the future of web development?

                Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra. In other words, something that ultimately and completely obsoletes a format that was originally intended to display........text. Marc

                Thyme In The Country

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                Tomas Petricek
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                Yes, and all these terabytes will be still sent over the good old HTTP protocol encoded in Base64 and displayed using even more crazy JavaScript creations on the client, because this will be the only cross-platform solution :~ I hope I'm wrong...

                Tomas Petricek, C# MVP
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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Clickok wrote:

                  After ajax, what can change the future of web development?

                  Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra. In other words, something that ultimately and completely obsoletes a format that was originally intended to display........text. Marc

                  Thyme In The Country

                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                  People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                  Farhan Noor Qureshi
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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra.

                  Hmmm, in other words, a mega BSOD???


                  Farhan Noor Qureshi

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                  • J Jim Crafton

                    How about a HTTP standard that's actually appropriate to web development? But we all know that's not going to happen!

                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Techno Silliness

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                    Rocky Moore
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                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    How about a HTTP standard that's actually appropriate to web development?

                    I am curious, what exactly do you think it should look like?

                    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Replacing Vista System HD & New things learned!

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                      Wait until all the Bubble 2.0 companies collapse or get bought, then just watch what Google does next (remember, they did the first high-profile Ajax app, GMail)

                      --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                      Rocky Moore
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                      Actually, wasn't Google Maps first? That was the first one I noticed from a big player. Was funny though, most web development purists kept telling everyone to stay away from Javascript and that you could not depend on it as most people would not allow it... Well, most developers stayed clear for big projects, but at least Google thought it was cool :)

                      Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Replacing Vista System HD & New things learned!

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                        Actually, wasn't Google Maps first? That was the first one I noticed from a big player. Was funny though, most web development purists kept telling everyone to stay away from Javascript and that you could not depend on it as most people would not allow it... Well, most developers stayed clear for big projects, but at least Google thought it was cool :)

                        Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Replacing Vista System HD & New things learned!

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                        jjhowey
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                        I believe Microsoft Outlook Web Access (OWA) was the first. Yep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX#History

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                        • J Joe Woodbury

                          Web sites that don't totally suck.

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                          Anton Afanasyev
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                          ...just partially.


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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Clickok wrote:

                            After ajax, what can change the future of web development?

                            Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra. In other words, something that ultimately and completely obsoletes a format that was originally intended to display........text. Marc

                            Thyme In The Country

                            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                            Don Miguel
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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra.

                            You speak like in Matrix! :-D

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                              After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


                              Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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                              hairy_hats
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                              Microsoft actually adhering to agreed standards?

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                              • J jjhowey

                                I believe Microsoft Outlook Web Access (OWA) was the first. Yep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX#History

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                                Paul Watson
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                                He said high-profile, not many people have used OWA.

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                                eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                  Web sites that don't totally suck.

                                  Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  What sucks about them?

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                    After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


                                    Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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                                    Paul Watson
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                                    Efficient, fast, low-power global coverage. Oh. And usability. Again.

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                      I believe Microsoft Outlook Web Access (OWA) was the first. Yep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX#History

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                                      jhegedus
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                                      Wow! Slam google to the ground and rub their nose in the dirt!

                                      Yeah whatever...

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                                        What sucks about them?

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                        Joe Woodbury
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                                        Many web sites are still very poorly designed. What bugs me more are the many web sites that are just functional, but haven't progressed much beyond that. Amazon.com is a perfect example--I use it, but pull my hair out at how bad the searching and filtering options are. A big part of the problem is that the nature of being able to continually update your web site allows product managers and company bureaucrats far too much latitude in the design.

                                        Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                          Many web sites are still very poorly designed. What bugs me more are the many web sites that are just functional, but haven't progressed much beyond that. Amazon.com is a perfect example--I use it, but pull my hair out at how bad the searching and filtering options are. A big part of the problem is that the nature of being able to continually update your web site allows product managers and company bureaucrats far too much latitude in the design.

                                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                          Paul Watson
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                                          Yeah many websites are poorly designed and I agree that Amazon is one of them (I wish they had Google's "Did you mean?" search technology for typos.) But what software, web or desktop, is well designed?

                                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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