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  • C Clickok

    After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


    Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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    Michael Dunn
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    Wait until all the Bubble 2.0 companies collapse or get bought, then just watch what Google does next (remember, they did the first high-profile Ajax app, GMail)

    --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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      After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


      Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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      Joe Woodbury
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      Web sites that don't totally suck.

      Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Clickok wrote:

        After ajax, what can change the future of web development?

        Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra. In other words, something that ultimately and completely obsoletes a format that was originally intended to display........text. Marc

        Thyme In The Country

        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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        Tomas Petricek
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        Yes, and all these terabytes will be still sent over the good old HTTP protocol encoded in Base64 and displayed using even more crazy JavaScript creations on the client, because this will be the only cross-platform solution :~ I hope I'm wrong...

        Tomas Petricek, C# MVP
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        • M Marc Clifton

          Clickok wrote:

          After ajax, what can change the future of web development?

          Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra. In other words, something that ultimately and completely obsoletes a format that was originally intended to display........text. Marc

          Thyme In The Country

          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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          Farhan Noor Qureshi
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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra.

          Hmmm, in other words, a mega BSOD???


          Farhan Noor Qureshi

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          • J Jim Crafton

            How about a HTTP standard that's actually appropriate to web development? But we all know that's not going to happen!

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            Rocky Moore
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            Jim Crafton wrote:

            How about a HTTP standard that's actually appropriate to web development?

            I am curious, what exactly do you think it should look like?

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            • M Michael Dunn

              Wait until all the Bubble 2.0 companies collapse or get bought, then just watch what Google does next (remember, they did the first high-profile Ajax app, GMail)

              --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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              Rocky Moore
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              Actually, wasn't Google Maps first? That was the first one I noticed from a big player. Was funny though, most web development purists kept telling everyone to stay away from Javascript and that you could not depend on it as most people would not allow it... Well, most developers stayed clear for big projects, but at least Google thought it was cool :)

              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Replacing Vista System HD & New things learned!

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                Actually, wasn't Google Maps first? That was the first one I noticed from a big player. Was funny though, most web development purists kept telling everyone to stay away from Javascript and that you could not depend on it as most people would not allow it... Well, most developers stayed clear for big projects, but at least Google thought it was cool :)

                Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Replacing Vista System HD & New things learned!

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                jjhowey
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                I believe Microsoft Outlook Web Access (OWA) was the first. Yep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX#History

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                  Web sites that don't totally suck.

                  Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                  Anton Afanasyev
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                  ...just partially.


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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Clickok wrote:

                    After ajax, what can change the future of web development?

                    Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra. In other words, something that ultimately and completely obsoletes a format that was originally intended to display........text. Marc

                    Thyme In The Country

                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                    Don Miguel
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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Global terabyte wireless with octacore processors crossmatrixed with multi C-band clustered satellites creating an enhanced world simulacra.

                    You speak like in Matrix! :-D

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                    • C Clickok

                      After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


                      Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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                      hairy_hats
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                      Microsoft actually adhering to agreed standards?

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                      • J Joe Woodbury

                        Web sites that don't totally suck.

                        Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                        Paul Watson
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                        What sucks about them?

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                          I believe Microsoft Outlook Web Access (OWA) was the first. Yep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX#History

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                          Paul Watson
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                          He said high-profile, not many people have used OWA.

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                            After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


                            Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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                            Paul Watson
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                            Efficient, fast, low-power global coverage. Oh. And usability. Again.

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                              I believe Microsoft Outlook Web Access (OWA) was the first. Yep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX#History

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                              jhegedus
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                              Wow! Slam google to the ground and rub their nose in the dirt!

                              Yeah whatever...

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                                What sucks about them?

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                Many web sites are still very poorly designed. What bugs me more are the many web sites that are just functional, but haven't progressed much beyond that. Amazon.com is a perfect example--I use it, but pull my hair out at how bad the searching and filtering options are. A big part of the problem is that the nature of being able to continually update your web site allows product managers and company bureaucrats far too much latitude in the design.

                                Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                  Many web sites are still very poorly designed. What bugs me more are the many web sites that are just functional, but haven't progressed much beyond that. Amazon.com is a perfect example--I use it, but pull my hair out at how bad the searching and filtering options are. A big part of the problem is that the nature of being able to continually update your web site allows product managers and company bureaucrats far too much latitude in the design.

                                  Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Yeah many websites are poorly designed and I agree that Amazon is one of them (I wish they had Google's "Did you mean?" search technology for typos.) But what software, web or desktop, is well designed?

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                    After ajax, what can change the future of web development?


                                    Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :badger:

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                                    pdohara
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                                    I think Open Source ActionScript will go along way toward bringing real client interaction the the browser. Most people seem to be betting on something media related.

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                                      He said high-profile, not many people have used OWA.

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                                      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                      K Personett
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                                      Literally millions of people have been using OWA since the 90's ... and since it's inception, I would say hundreds of millions...

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                                        Literally millions of people have been using OWA since the 90's ... and since it's inception, I would say hundreds of millions...

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        I'd like to see some proof of that.

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                                          I'd like to see some proof of that.

                                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

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                                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                          Well, for instance, the University of Phoenix Online has had over 171000 Alumni, and they run their online classes using Exchange Server via OWA. Take the many governments worldwide that run Exchange, along with all of the commercial interests that run Exchange, you are easily in the millions... Some of these entiteis are in the millions as far as clients go... such as the US Dept of Defense... The US Government runs Exchange, the Canadian Government also. After all, Exchange is the most widely deployed single Email system around for the past several years. I know of several companies that use OWA as a standard for email just because of the ease of deployment. As of Exchange Server 2003, nearly all of the functionality of Outlook was built into OWA. So, within the scope of total exposure of OWA since Exchange 5.5 back in the 90's, I would venture to say that my statement, while disputable, is probably easily proven with research. I'm not arguing, I'm merely stating some obvious facts... I'm sure that you could get additional information from some of the firms that do IT Testing, Auditing and Trend Analysis...

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