Microsoft Certifications
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Christian Graus wrote:
I've totally seen certification centres that will take the test in your name, and guarentee you will pass. How this is of value to anyone, is beyond me.
Care to name one or two? Where I teach test taking it closely monitored and the testing environmental integrity in strictly enforced. Also, the certs must mean something or you wouldn't display the "MVP" next to your name, would you? :P
A room without books is like a body without a soul. - Cicero (106 BC - 43 AD)
MVP is something that you get given by Microsoft for being an active member of the commmunity. It is not a certification.
Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD MCTS
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Hi Christian, I would like to know how can a developer attain MVP title of Microsoft. I am very much impressed by your title and have seen many people having such titles. I am very much eager to become MVP. Could you please tell me or guide me in doing so? Thanks a lot in advance. Awaiting your response. -Hardik-
Microsoft awards it, there's no test involved.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
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Christian Graus wrote:
How this is of value to anyone, is beyond me.
Nonetheless some companies insist on them. Of course none will want only certification but they may prefer experience + cert over just experience. However, the majority of companies are only interested in experience.
Kevin
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
Nonetheless some companies insist on them.
Well, if a company wouldn't hire me because I didn't pay a certification company money, I'd consider they failed my interview. That could only lead to other, similarly disfunctional views down the track
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
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Bradml wrote:
We never insinuated that he wanted to cheat himself, but rather that others who have cheated have degraded the value of any MS certification.
Which, when one thinks about it, tells us oodles about some people's lack of character, but it also tells that certs do carry weight.
A room without books is like a body without a soul. - Cicero (106 BC - 43 AD)
Jerry Hammond wrote:
but it also tells that certs do carry weight.
No, it tells us why they no longer do.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
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Christian Graus wrote:
I've totally seen certification centres that will take the test in your name, and guarentee you will pass. How this is of value to anyone, is beyond me.
Care to name one or two? Where I teach test taking it closely monitored and the testing environmental integrity in strictly enforced. Also, the certs must mean something or you wouldn't display the "MVP" next to your name, would you? :P
A room without books is like a body without a soul. - Cicero (106 BC - 43 AD)
Jerry Hammond wrote:
Care to name one or two?
I was too disinterested to take note, I can't even recall if I became aware of them through spam emails or a website ( although I think the latter ). And, I'm sure MS is constantly shutting down places like that.
Jerry Hammond wrote:
Also, the certs must mean something or you wouldn't display the "MVP" next to your name, would you?
I display it to add value to MS, for giving it to me. As has been said, it's not a certification, I didn't seek it, I sure didn't take a test.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
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MVP is something that you get given by Microsoft for being an active member of the commmunity. It is not a certification.
Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD MCTS
Steve Maier wrote:
MVP is something that you get given by Microsoft for being an active member of the commmunity. It is not a certification.
You may say this is splitting hairs here but awarding him an MPV certifies what about Chris? Microsoft assures...err...certifies that Chris has exhibited certain level of knowledge and a willingness to share that knowledge with a community in such a manner that he should be certified a MVP. Just because it is not called a cert does not discount it is in fact a certification. Never the less, that was not my point as I am confident you knew. EDITED FOR CLARITY.
A room without books is like a body without a soul. - Cicero (106 BC - 43 AD)
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Microsoft awards it, there's no test involved.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
Christian Graus wrote:
Microsoft awards it, there's no test involved.
So?
A room without books is like a body without a soul. - Cicero (106 BC - 43 AD)
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Jerry Hammond wrote:
Care to name one or two?
I was too disinterested to take note, I can't even recall if I became aware of them through spam emails or a website ( although I think the latter ). And, I'm sure MS is constantly shutting down places like that.
Jerry Hammond wrote:
Also, the certs must mean something or you wouldn't display the "MVP" next to your name, would you?
I display it to add value to MS, for giving it to me. As has been said, it's not a certification, I didn't seek it, I sure didn't take a test.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
Christian Graus wrote:
I display it to add value to MS, for giving it to me.
Lmao! I hope you don't mean that the way it reads...
A room without books is like a body without a soul. - Cicero (106 BC - 43 AD)
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Christian Graus wrote:
I display it to add value to MS, for giving it to me.
Lmao! I hope you don't mean that the way it reads...
A room without books is like a body without a soul. - Cicero (106 BC - 43 AD)
*grin* I mean that MS awards it, so if they see value in me having it, I should advertise that they think so. Still not sure if that came out right...
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
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Christian Graus wrote:
Microsoft awards it, there's no test involved.
So?
A room without books is like a body without a soul. - Cicero (106 BC - 43 AD)
I'm not sure what that means ?
Christian Graus - C++ MVP