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  • D David Wulff

    No, not the name of a new Windows Vista edition, but a comment about the Notepad application on Vista: Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks. It makes editing config files, xml, etc, 100 times easier. Characters like "'=-,. etc now break selections by default. It is just one more of those little changes in Windows - like file copying - that makes it a more pleasant tool to work with. All the more so when you don't even notice it was changed until you switch back to a Windows XP machine and find you can't do it. I've been using Vista for over a week now and since the somewhat trying installation fiasco my impression has been quite a positive one. I even like the new control panel now I've discovered how great the search feature is. I had turned UAC off while I set up the machine, but turned it over the weekend and so far haven't found it too intrusive. Time will tell just how useful it really is. For those of you that are evaluating the final build of Vista, what other changes (big or little) do you find make your day easier? Or harder?


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    S Douglas
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    They changed it, and didn't break it :suss: must have been a mistake. :laugh:


    I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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    • D David Wulff

      Why do you go in to a directory? You go in to find a file or group of files. The more you can see at once, the less time it will take to find the one/s you want. Files are identified by their name, what use is other information 99% of the time? I was not aware that the list view was at all unpopular, especially amojng devs. All of the devs I work with use list view 100% the time like myself. The only exception is when I actually need to see a modified date and sorting alone isn't enough, in which case I'll swap to detailed view temporarily. It is also significantly faster to use the list and/or detailed view than using the icon or tile views, particularly when you are navigating directories containing many hundreds of file or over a network.


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      James Murphy
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      I always use details view, I have almost always used details view - not least because it enables one to rapidly change the sort order. Don't use list because its neither fish nor fowl...

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      • R Rocky Moore

        Paul Watson wrote:

        Microsoft should copy the column feature

        Is this the one that keeps expanding out columns to the left when you select something a column? If so, that is one of the features of Mac that makes me stay away, I would rather have a tree view with folders.

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        Paul Watson
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        It expands it out to the right (maybe left if you have an Arabic OS?) but essentially yes. There is a tree option in Mac OS X Finder. It is often the default choice.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

        Shog9 wrote:

        I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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          Huh... I'm using XP, and don't think i've ever seen the behavior you describe. Perhaps it is something to do with defaults though - i've certainly run into other odd/annoying things related to defaults on XP. I'll have to reboot into Vista later, and see how that acts.

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          David Wulff
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          I'm on Vista (64 bit) now and it doesn't do it. I completely forgot to check on my work machine, but I can definately confirm it does it as described on Windows XP Pro x64. AFAIK all I've done is set it as the default view from the My computer window then applied it to all folders.


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          • D David Wulff

            I'm on Vista (64 bit) now and it doesn't do it. I completely forgot to check on my work machine, but I can definately confirm it does it as described on Windows XP Pro x64. AFAIK all I've done is set it as the default view from the My computer window then applied it to all folders.


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            David Wulff wrote:

            AFAIK all I've done is set it as the default view from the My computer window then applied it to all folders.

            Well, if i do that i'll be kicking myself for the next year as i try to get my folders customized back the way i like 'em, so i'll take your word for it.

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            • S S Douglas

              Kevin McFarlane wrote:

              "OS/2 is really dead."

              No it's not, OS2 workstations are just now starting to get replaced and that's mostly because of hardware failures. The banking industry was OS2’s biggest adopter, and they hold on to technology for dear life.


              I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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              Kevin McFarlane
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              It was a joke - you take it too seriously. Actually, in the UK, I'd read that OS/2 had been dumped some years ago.

              Kevin

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              • D David Wulff

                If you have the list view set as default, all columns will be the same size regardless of the file name length when you first enter a directory. Only if you then hit F5 will it resize the columns (and even then, it has limits).

                Shog9 wrote:

                Also, i hate horizontal scrolling

                That is what mouse wheels are for. Just scroll down, and it will move down the list, even if that means moving the window to the left.


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                David Wulff wrote:

                Shog9 wrote: Also, i hate horizontal scrolling That is what mouse wheels are for. Just scroll down, and it will move down the list, even if that means moving the window to the left.

                I had to smile.. I think Shog meant side to side scrolling when he said "horizontal".:laugh: I use list view at work 90% of the time and only use details when I need to sort by some factor of file type or date or file name. Thumbnails I use only on my local machine and basically when I'm needing to view the graphic files I deal with,

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                  David Wulff wrote:

                  Shog9 wrote: Also, i hate horizontal scrolling That is what mouse wheels are for. Just scroll down, and it will move down the list, even if that means moving the window to the left.

                  I had to smile.. I think Shog meant side to side scrolling when he said "horizontal".:laugh: I use list view at work 90% of the time and only use details when I need to sort by some factor of file type or date or file name. Thumbnails I use only on my local machine and basically when I'm needing to view the graphic files I deal with,

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                  Seoulborn wrote:

                  I think Shog meant side to side scrolling when he said "horizontal".

                  Yeah, that's why I said that bit. Scrolling down will scroll horizontally in list view, thus making it no different from the other views in that respect.


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                  • S Shog9 0

                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    Microsoft should copy the column feature from Mac OS X Finder. That works wonderfully well.

                    I could swear that column feature was from NextStep. Sad to say, but if MS hasn't copied it yet, i doubt they're gonna... (for those who haven't seen it, it's nothing like the List view in Explorer. For starters, it's useful.)

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                    pg az
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                    It bothers me to be totally ignorant of something like this - do you have a link, please ?

                    pg--az

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                      It bothers me to be totally ignorant of something like this - do you have a link, please ?

                      pg--az

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                      Sure... here's one[^], here's another[^]. And a couple[^] of screenshots[^]. Hard to get a good feel for it without actually using it though... IMHO, it can be considerably faster to navigate through a hierarchy than the tree view that Explorer provides.

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                        It expands it out to the right (maybe left if you have an Arabic OS?) but essentially yes. There is a tree option in Mac OS X Finder. It is often the default choice.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                        Rocky Moore
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                        Yeah, at times I do not know my left from my right :-O Okay, that is better, did not know there was a choice, just knew I did not like the multiple columns thing :)

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                          Sure... here's one[^], here's another[^]. And a couple[^] of screenshots[^]. Hard to get a good feel for it without actually using it though... IMHO, it can be considerably faster to navigate through a hierarchy than the tree view that Explorer provides.

                          ---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...

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                          pg az
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                          I think I can imagine what it must be like - I know that with the one treeview I do a fair amount of scrolling the treeview up and down, because expanding the inner levels makes it more than a vertical screenful. So, with the column-for-each-folder-level this will not happen, and as indeed my folder-names are brief, I COULD probably fit a couple of nestlevel columns in. So AGREED - this is COOL, thanks for pointing me to the articles !

                          pg--az

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