Question about melatonin [modified]
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Captain See SharpI was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP
The only thing you can do thats worse than self-medication is combining medications. If you feel depressed, anxious or down address the problem by talking to someone. Go see a doctor and ask for a referal to a counsellor. Treat the cause not the symptom
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Josh Gray wrote:
Go see a doctor and ask for a referal to a counsellor.
I have and was prescribed Zoloft X| I did not enjoy quarter sized pupils and a spaced out feeling all day everyday. I quickly stopped taking it and never seen another doctor again.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Were you actually exercising or pretending to so you could fool yourself?
I used to walk to work and school(a good 30-40 minute walk) every day for about a year. Of course it made me very sleepy, especially after walking in the snow or cold rain. It did not help me get to sleep at night when I needed to sleep.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
This is marketing hoopla people fall for. Even natural substances in unnatural proportions is dangerous. Don't believe me? As a male, go start popping estrogen pills way too much even though you already have it in your own body. Let's not forget the little telltale signs like unnatural side effects too. This should clue you in.
I am well aware of the side effects of many drugs. The final thing that made me want to go ahead and try it was this site. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Melatonin.shtml[^]
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Captain See SharpI used to walk to work and school(a good 30-40 minute walk) every day for about a year. Of course it made me very sleepy, especially after walking in the snow or cold rain.
Ok, first, and this is very important. My advice will generally assume you're otherwise normal and don't have any special conditions to cater for. That being said... Did you get sleepy during the walk? If so, your blood sugar is out of whack and most likely your diet too. Or was it after the walk?
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How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006
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if you want good sleep 1) increase your physical workout 2) if you have stress problems try meditation 3) drink extra water 4) quit coffee / tea 5) try to quit alcohol/cigarettes 6) good sex before sleep will do (only if you are eligible :laugh:) 7) balance you diet its your body and take care of it ,it will pay you back and vice versa :):)
it is good to be important but it is more important to be good
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Josh Gray wrote:
Go see a doctor and ask for a referal to a counsellor.
I have and was prescribed Zoloft X| I did not enjoy quarter sized pupils and a spaced out feeling all day everyday. I quickly stopped taking it and never seen another doctor again.
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Captain See SharpI did not enjoy quarter sized pupils and a spaced out feeling all day everyday.
Oh, but it has natural ingredients! :) Oh, I had to.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Go see a doctor and ask for a referal to a counsellor.
I have and was prescribed Zoloft X| I did not enjoy quarter sized pupils and a spaced out feeling all day everyday. I quickly stopped taking it and never seen another doctor again.
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So go and see another doctor, if they recommend drugs tell them you dont want drugs you want to treat the cause of the problem. Otherwise you are just masking the symptoms. My father suffered from depression for many many years and was treated with Zoloft, its a real illness just like heart disease or anything else. If you want you can email me and Ill tell you a bit about what I learnt through his experiance.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Were you actually exercising or pretending to so you could fool yourself?
I used to walk to work and school(a good 30-40 minute walk) every day for about a year. Of course it made me very sleepy, especially after walking in the snow or cold rain. It did not help me get to sleep at night when I needed to sleep.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
This is marketing hoopla people fall for. Even natural substances in unnatural proportions is dangerous. Don't believe me? As a male, go start popping estrogen pills way too much even though you already have it in your own body. Let's not forget the little telltale signs like unnatural side effects too. This should clue you in.
I am well aware of the side effects of many drugs. The final thing that made me want to go ahead and try it was this site. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Melatonin.shtml[^]
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Captain See SharpI used to walk to work and school(a good 30-40 minute walk) every day for about a year.
Btw, I should mention. If your heart's not pumping it's not real exercise. Even people that walk for health tend to "power walk" (basically briskly). Dragging along one foot after another (I don't know your story, just giving you info) isn't quite the same. Also, keep in mind, the weather can affect your mood. Bad moods can hurt your exercise session. If you don't like walking the rain and snow for exercise then you owe it to yourself to find a new means of getting it in.
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
I will survive
Been listening to Tina Turner have we? ;P
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
(plus this was partly my fault for giving up and letting the illness destroy me), but my girlfriend got her diabetes as a teen, she has rarely known life without insulin.
I have to tell you, one of the kids I met back in the 90s that I was most sorry for (there's a lot in the world no doubt but I met this one, so it was made real to me), was a kid named Forest who was born with Diabetes. I don't know how he's doing now, but the doctors said he'd most likely be blind as a teenager and die in his 20's. Crazy to think I'm almost 30 and not dead yet. I suppose the best thing we can do in these situations is not forget and don't take life for granted.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Crazy to think I'm almost 30 and not dead yet. I suppose the best thing we can do in these situations is not forget and don't take life for granted.
Life should NEVER be taken for granted. Even at 41, I could have 60 years left, or 6 hours left. No moment, no part of life should be taken for granted. Chances are I have about 20-40 years left depending on internal damage, no one can really say until things start failing. Life is as long as life is, no more, no less, enjoy it while it lasts and never take one moment for granted!
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Been listening to Tina Turner have we?
nope: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2402301[^]
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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John Cardinal wrote:
I wanted to say that but I felt like it would probably be ignored or had already been tried. I personally think people take way too much medication without addressing problems that are the root of their need to take it, but it's like yelling "soylent green is people" no one's going to listen in this day and age.
Exercise never seemed to help me much. Melatonin is a natural hormone produced by the penil gland in the center of your brain and it secretes th hormone at night and puts you to sleep. It is nothing like Xanax or Ambien.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
Exercise never seemed to help me much.
do it not as work but enjoy it play out door games uninstall all game on your pc join any near by stadium for any game you are interested in (i prefer swimming ) restrict your use of internet and what waste stuff you surf and create a time table for you and follow it not like others you created before as far as i think you must had given your iq test try giving you bmr test keep your body moving quit laziness take frequent brakes from your system and you are not old enough to buy alcohol then you must do a lot care of your body and need any help further seek a doctor / physiotherapist :)
it is good to be important but it is more important to be good
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Crazy to think I'm almost 30 and not dead yet. I suppose the best thing we can do in these situations is not forget and don't take life for granted.
Life should NEVER be taken for granted. Even at 41, I could have 60 years left, or 6 hours left. No moment, no part of life should be taken for granted. Chances are I have about 20-40 years left depending on internal damage, no one can really say until things start failing. Life is as long as life is, no more, no less, enjoy it while it lasts and never take one moment for granted!
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Been listening to Tina Turner have we?
nope: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2402301[^]
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
enjoy it while it lasts and never take one moment for granted!
Yup. I mean sometimes I do when I get caught up in the daily grind, but I like to be reminded not to often.
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Well that's just frightening. At least we know to stay away from disco balls for longevity though.
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John Cardinal wrote:
I wanted to say that but I felt like it would probably be ignored or had already been tried. I personally think people take way too much medication without addressing problems that are the root of their need to take it, but it's like yelling "soylent green is people" no one's going to listen in this day and age.
Exercise never seemed to help me much. Melatonin is a natural hormone produced by the penil gland in the center of your brain and it secretes th hormone at night and puts you to sleep. It is nothing like Xanax or Ambien.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
natural hormone
didn't you ever read chemistry if you read it you should know that we a mix of chemicals and there is practically nothing natural every natural (organic compound ) can be created from chemicals (inorganic compounds) and don't fool your self with advertising campaigns the manufactures will always say that but if you go deep they are all creating them in labs and from chemicals :)
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Captain See SharpI did not enjoy quarter sized pupils and a spaced out feeling all day everyday.
Oh, but it has natural ingredients! :) Oh, I had to.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Oh, but it has natural ingredients!
Zoloft(I dont know the active ingredient) is synthetic, 5-HTP and meletonin are extracted from plants and we all ingest low levels of it at times.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Oh, but it has natural ingredients!
Zoloft(I dont know the active ingredient) is synthetic, 5-HTP and meletonin are extracted from plants and we all ingest low levels of it at times.
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Captain See Sharp Zoloft(I dont know the active ingredient) is synthetic, 5-HTP and meletonin are extracted from plants and we all ingest low levels of it at times.
It was a joke. Refer to my other post about how it doesn't mean it's good for you. Also, a lot of naturally occuring things aren't as bad for you in small dosages. Catch the drift? In fact, some things that are good for you in small dosages are very bad for you in large ones (like trace minerals for instance) and this is all natural stuff.
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PaulC1972 wrote:
So true
Yeah, I pity those suffering souls who feel good every day. One can only imagine the horror. :rolleyes:
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Yeah, I pity those suffering souls who feel good every day. One can only imagine the horror.
:laugh: Yep, same here :)
Some people have a memory and an attention span, you should try them out one day. - Jeremy Falcon
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So go and see another doctor, if they recommend drugs tell them you dont want drugs you want to treat the cause of the problem. Otherwise you are just masking the symptoms. My father suffered from depression for many many years and was treated with Zoloft, its a real illness just like heart disease or anything else. If you want you can email me and Ill tell you a bit about what I learnt through his experiance.
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Josh Gray wrote:
My father suffered from depression for many many years and was treated with Zoloft, its a real illness just like heart disease or anything else. If you want you can email me and Ill tell you a bit about what I learnt through his experiance.
I no longer suffer from depression except maybe a mild down day every now and then. It used to be extremely bad but time and mental effort allowed me to get passed it. My only problem now is slight anxiety at times and sleep problems occasionally. I don't have the money for doctors and such and I don't think I need them any more. I'm interested in 5-HTP because it provides a light mood lift and calming effect(great for those anxious days or in social situations) together with melatonin should provide good sleep which should prevent me from falling back into depression. Oh and Kava looks very interesting, I will try it eventually.
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if you want good sleep 1) increase your physical workout 2) if you have stress problems try meditation 3) drink extra water 4) quit coffee / tea 5) try to quit alcohol/cigarettes 6) good sex before sleep will do (only if you are eligible :laugh:) 7) balance you diet its your body and take care of it ,it will pay you back and vice versa :):)
it is good to be important but it is more important to be good
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Josh Gray wrote:
My father suffered from depression for many many years and was treated with Zoloft, its a real illness just like heart disease or anything else. If you want you can email me and Ill tell you a bit about what I learnt through his experiance.
I no longer suffer from depression except maybe a mild down day every now and then. It used to be extremely bad but time and mental effort allowed me to get passed it. My only problem now is slight anxiety at times and sleep problems occasionally. I don't have the money for doctors and such and I don't think I need them any more. I'm interested in 5-HTP because it provides a light mood lift and calming effect(great for those anxious days or in social situations) together with melatonin should provide good sleep which should prevent me from falling back into depression. Oh and Kava looks very interesting, I will try it eventually.
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Captain See Sharpgreat for those anxious days or in social situations)
Again, you need to treat the cause of this and not the symptoms. What if a hot girl asks you out and you dont have any 5-HTP?
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Shog9 wrote:
Yeah... i was trying to be low-key.
Well you know me; me and low-key don't mix. :-D
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Captain See Sharp Zoloft(I dont know the active ingredient) is synthetic, 5-HTP and meletonin are extracted from plants and we all ingest low levels of it at times.
It was a joke. Refer to my other post about how it doesn't mean it's good for you. Also, a lot of naturally occuring things aren't as bad for you in small dosages. Catch the drift? In fact, some things that are good for you in small dosages are very bad for you in large ones (like trace minerals for instance) and this is all natural stuff.
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Captain See Sharpgreat for those anxious days or in social situations)
Again, you need to treat the cause of this and not the symptoms. What if a hot girl asks you out and you dont have any 5-HTP?
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Josh Gray wrote:
What if a hot girl asks you out and you dont have any 5-HTP?
Say yes or whatever sounds good for that situation. However the 5-HTP would be helpful especially in a situation were I have to deal with a lot of customers at work.
Josh Gray wrote:
Again, you need to treat the cause of this and not the symptoms.
I know what the cause of the symptoms are and 5-HTP and good sleep are likely to remove the cause.
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John Cardinal wrote:
When winter came here I went out and bought the brightest compact flourescent lightbulbs I could afford and put them everywhere in the house, it's bright as day inside now and I find it makes a huge difference when you live in a bleak and dreary winter climate with no sunshine.
How's the flicker? I'd like to try something like that, but the flicker of most fluorescent fixtures annoys the heck out of me, and the price of keeping scores of halogen fixtures blazing gives me pause.
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No flicker that I can see, I know what you mean about flicker it used to give me headaches in junior high school, but I haven't seen a flickery flourescent in many years. They all have little electronic ballasts in them, they probably can't visibly flicker. I could have used other types of lights, but when I calculated it out even with all the lights blazing everywhere in the house and additional new lamps I added it still came to a quarter the electricity that just the basic incandescent lights we used to leave on consumed. I went to Walmart and filled up a shopping basket and changed every one in the house. The bathroom has one of those crazy fixtures over the mirror with 6 light bulbs in it behind a cover, I replaced them all with the brightest whitest flourescents and now when you flick it on it's almost like staring into the sun. The main issue is that the bulbs are physically longer so I had to leave off some of the covers in the ceiling lights, but personally I think they're stupid anyway, why restrict the amount of light coming out? Of course my wife doesn't agree, but I promised to put the covers back on in spring when it get's bright out again (but actually I'm hoping to find bigger fixtures). Halogen is my absolute least favorite light source these days. It's so hot and throws out UV that you need a glass filter over it, badly inefficient, bright but not efficient. The flourescents are ultra bright and if you get the daylight kind, not the kind that mimic the yellowy tones of incandescents then suddenly you see your house in a whole new light so to speak. As if someone just ripped the roof off and the sun is shining in. It's really a weird thing to go from incandescent to nice bright white CF bulbs, you walk around the house like you've never seen it before. But the ultimate would surely be LED based lighting if they could just get their act together and start selling them widely at a reasonable price. That would be the killer lightbulb, a fraction of even the CF bulbs in energy use and bright white.