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  • P peterchen

    My thoughts: I find it totally appropriate that we can talk about programming in a casual way in the lounge. After all, that's what on our minds. I just don't want to see the lounge flooded with "help with my homework" requests, and "I know the VC++ forum, but I hope to get a quicker and more detailed answer here". If, to enforce this, we have to ban all programming talk from the lounge, I can live with this. But I rather have people show good manners and good taste, and don't crash into a doctors apres-ski party to ask about their furuncles. Above question is fine with me (as are the XDay programming quizzes)


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    Jeremy Falcon
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    That's pretty much my thoughts on the matter too, just in case anyone actually cared to know that. :laugh:

    Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]

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    • M Matt Gerrans

      I'm not sure I understand your broken sentence rightly, but it sounds like you don't understand the difference between "a programming question" and "a question about programming practice." A programming question would be something like "how do you code the travelling salesman algorithm in Plain English?" * * and the answer would be a lot of dodging about without actually answering the question! :)

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      WillemM
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      Ooh c'mon, I wanted to ask that for plain mandarin ;P

      WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "You can always try to smash it with a wrench to fix that. It might actually work" - WillemM

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      • A Anton Afanasyev

        You're all wrong. The correct answer depends on how you're getting paid - by the number of lines written(then the first), or by the functionality implemented (then the second). Yup, thats it;)


        :badger:

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        WillemM
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        I wonder why a company would pay you by line, because that first construct could really use some more comments if you get payed by the line ;P

        WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "You can always try to smash it with a wrench to fix that. It might actually work" - WillemM

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        • B Bradml

          Jerry Hammond wrote:

          elseif

          Should this not be "else"?


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          DavidNohejl
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          yes, see title of my reply to him. :)


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          • M Marc Clifton

            If I really wanted to do it right, I'd do something like:

            bstrValue = GetBitStateAsStateString(READBIT(*pGlobalFlags, uFlag));

            or, if you want to go for debuggable/more readable:

            byte bit=READBIT(*pGlobalFlags, uFlag);
            bstrValue = GetBitStateAsStateString(bit);

            This gives you at least a fighting chance to handle internationalization and centralizes the meaning of a bit when converted to a string. After all, "True" and "False" might be equally valid, so you might have:

            bstrValue = GetBitStateAsTruthString(READBIT(*pGlobalFlags, uFlag));

            And no, I don't write code like that usually myself! :) Marc

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            Todd Smith
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            I was going to say neither but I didn't feel like typing why :D So if those are your only two options then #2 (no pun intended) but I also agree with Marc on the other points.

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            • D DavidNohejl

              Personally, I would do it like this, kinda taking best of both options (IMO).

              // getting string value from flag
              strValue = (READBIT(*pGlobalFlags, uFlag))?"ON":"OFF";

              // do different stuff depending on value of strValue
              if(strValue == "ON")
              {
              MyTaskFunction();
              }
              else
              {
              MyAnotherTaskFunction();
              }


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              Todd Smith
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              What if you need to change the representation for "ON" and "OFF"?

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              • T Todd Smith

                What if you need to change the representation for "ON" and "OFF"?

                Todd Smith

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                DavidNohejl
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                How does it relate to original poster's question, which I believe was about if...else construct vs ternary operator? Oh well at least I now know why my style got voted down. :doh:


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                • D DavidNohejl

                  :P It's style question. People usually get away with it. IMO its equal to "Do you like code red or pitr-cola more?" kind of question.


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                  El Corazon
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                  dnh wrote:

                  Do you like code red or pitr-cola more

                  Code red! ;P though I think I miss Jolt Cola the most. :)

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    That's pretty much my thoughts on the matter too, just in case anyone actually cared to know that. :laugh:

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                    Todd Smith
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                    How about a reward system? Once you've submitted X articles of Y quality you can post anything, anywhere you want :D

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                    • E El Corazon

                      dnh wrote:

                      Do you like code red or pitr-cola more

                      Code red! ;P though I think I miss Jolt Cola the most. :)

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                      DavidNohejl
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                      http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20020520[^] :)


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                      • W WillemM

                        Ooh c'mon, I wanted to ask that for plain mandarin ;P

                        WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "You can always try to smash it with a wrench to fix that. It might actually work" - WillemM

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                        Matt Gerrans
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                        WillemM wrote:

                        Ooh c'mon, I wanted to ask that for plain mandarin

                        :doh: I had to read that at least three times before I realized you were talking about the language not the fruit! :) Maybe Jeremy can present the 3D Plain Oatmeal implementation as a demo of his API. :)

                        Matt Gerrans

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                        • W WillemM

                          I wonder why a company would pay you by line, because that first construct could really use some more comments if you get payed by the line ;P

                          WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "You can always try to smash it with a wrench to fix that. It might actually work" - WillemM

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                          Anton Afanasyev
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                          I dunno, there just seems to be an explosion of people who write so many unnecessary lines that it seems they're geting paid by the line count.


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                          • M Matt Gerrans

                            This:

                                //If the flag is on then
                                if(READBIT(\*pGlobalFlags, uFlag))
                                {
                                        //Value is set to on
                                        bstrValue = "ON";
                                }
                                else
                                {
                                        //Value is set to off
                                        bstrValue = "OFF";
                                }
                            

                            Or this:

                            bstrValue = READBIT(*pGlobalFlags, uFlag) ? "ON" : "OFF";

                            :confused:

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                            Stuart Dootson
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                            The second, so you can do:

                            const BSTR bstrValue = READBIT(*pGlobalFlags, uFlag) ? "ON" : "OFF";
                            

                            I tend to write code with lots of consts (kind of an emulation of a functional style), so I use the conditional operator a lot.

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                            • M Matt Gerrans

                              This:

                                  //If the flag is on then
                                  if(READBIT(\*pGlobalFlags, uFlag))
                                  {
                                          //Value is set to on
                                          bstrValue = "ON";
                                  }
                                  else
                                  {
                                          //Value is set to off
                                          bstrValue = "OFF";
                                  }
                              

                              Or this:

                              bstrValue = READBIT(*pGlobalFlags, uFlag) ? "ON" : "OFF";

                              :confused:

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                              Aryo Handono
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                              Matt Gerrans wrote:

                              bstrValue = READBIT(*pGlobalFlags, uFlag) ? "ON" : "OFF";

                              I prefer this one, it looks like "advance source code" :-D:-D

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                              • S Shog9 0

                                Why? No redundant comments to infuriate me, that's why.

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                                Obliterator
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                                Generally the latter, but in this instance I would prefer the former. The comments document the fact the message refers to the state of the 'value'. Without the comments, I may have thought the function simply returned a success flag. I might expect it place the actual value in one of the parameters. I would then need to look more closely at the definition/implementation/comments of the Read function to determine more about how it worked.

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                                  Generally the latter, but in this instance I would prefer the former. The comments document the fact the message refers to the state of the 'value'. Without the comments, I may have thought the function simply returned a success flag. I might expect it place the actual value in one of the parameters. I would then need to look more closely at the definition/implementation/comments of the Read function to determine more about how it worked.

                                  -- The Obliterator

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                                  Obliterator wrote:

                                  I would then need to look more closely at the definition/implementation/comments of the Read function to determine more about how it worked.

                                  If there were side-effects, this is something i would expect to be indicated, either in code or in comments. Neither block indicated such a thing, the comments in the first merely describing what was implicit in the code.

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