Boy arrested for opening christmas gift early
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Maximilien wrote:
Stupid mother, Stupid Policemen.
She's 27, her boy is 12 and 'disruptive'. Do you need to know more?
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so you think it's normal that a mother calls the police when her kid opens his present to early? In that case give me life-long imprisonment...
V. wrote:
so you think it's normal that a mother calls the police when her kid opens his present to early?
Where did I say that? No it's not "normal". Are you "normal"? Are your kids?
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My son once knowingly stole some food from a grocery store while my wife and I were shopping. We had suspected that he had done this before, as we found candy and food stuffs in his room following other shopping trips; things we knew we did not purchase ... On this one particular trip, I saw him pocket the food, and walked over to a manager to report him. The manager, being how most grocery store managers are, didn't know what to do with it (because my son was a minor). I wanted the police called, so an officer could "talk with him", but the store manager refused, and just "let it go" ... that was unacceptable to me. SO ... I took my son to the police department that night, and had an officer speak with him about stealing; showed him the back of a police car, and the officer even "wrote down his name" (for effect). My son, now 22, has told me that scared the #%*() out of him, and he's ever once considered stealing anything again. Today, looking back on it, I would never have handled this way ... and frankly, I feel that my actions, while they may have worked, were overkill. Many parents do what they "think" is the "right" thing to do, at the time ... and while we all like to believe we'd act in a mature and logical manner in situations such as this, until you've been there and had it happen to you, it is difficult to say just how you might react. I will never condone what this mother did, since all children sneak and open presents and one point or another, but none of us knows her situation, and being young and most likely not having the best upbringing herself, she did what she "thought" was going to have an effect on her son; since he obviously ignored all her prior "warnings". I would much rather see/hear her do something like this, than her having beaten the child ... My story and two cents on this matter.
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so you think it's normal that a mother calls the police when her kid opens his present to early? In that case give me life-long imprisonment...
I read this article on CNN and it talks about the boy having ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder). My brother and cousin both have ADD (-H) and unless you have experience dealing with these kind of kids you best not pass judgement on the mother. It is extermely hard to raise children like this and sometimes drastic measures can be helpful. I'm not saying this was right but I will not also jump the gun and say it was wrong. Unless you are part of the situation don't make assumptions about the parenting skills of another person who you've never even met. The true tragedy here is that this story made the news. A semi-personal issue not went national simply because it was an XMAS present that was involved. How very sad.
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I call hoax. At most, the mother and police officer colluded to scare the kid since no crime actually occurred.
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I understand why she had the boy arrested. Mybe sitting the night in jail might change the boys attitude. I do wonder does the mother not realize that she supports the boy and she might have to pay has legal fees for the charge that she filled against him?
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jason_lakewhitney wrote:
Mybe sitting the night in jail might change the boys attitude.
His attitude will definitely change, but not necessarily for the better.
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My son once knowingly stole some food from a grocery store while my wife and I were shopping. We had suspected that he had done this before, as we found candy and food stuffs in his room following other shopping trips; things we knew we did not purchase ... On this one particular trip, I saw him pocket the food, and walked over to a manager to report him. The manager, being how most grocery store managers are, didn't know what to do with it (because my son was a minor). I wanted the police called, so an officer could "talk with him", but the store manager refused, and just "let it go" ... that was unacceptable to me. SO ... I took my son to the police department that night, and had an officer speak with him about stealing; showed him the back of a police car, and the officer even "wrote down his name" (for effect). My son, now 22, has told me that scared the #%*() out of him, and he's ever once considered stealing anything again. Today, looking back on it, I would never have handled this way ... and frankly, I feel that my actions, while they may have worked, were overkill. Many parents do what they "think" is the "right" thing to do, at the time ... and while we all like to believe we'd act in a mature and logical manner in situations such as this, until you've been there and had it happen to you, it is difficult to say just how you might react. I will never condone what this mother did, since all children sneak and open presents and one point or another, but none of us knows her situation, and being young and most likely not having the best upbringing herself, she did what she "thought" was going to have an effect on her son; since he obviously ignored all her prior "warnings". I would much rather see/hear her do something like this, than her having beaten the child ... My story and two cents on this matter.
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Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLWell put.
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V. wrote:
so you think it's normal that a mother calls the police when her kid opens his present to early?
Where did I say that? No it's not "normal". Are you "normal"? Are your kids?
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No it's not "normal".
My point exactly
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I read this article on CNN and it talks about the boy having ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder). My brother and cousin both have ADD (-H) and unless you have experience dealing with these kind of kids you best not pass judgement on the mother. It is extermely hard to raise children like this and sometimes drastic measures can be helpful. I'm not saying this was right but I will not also jump the gun and say it was wrong. Unless you are part of the situation don't make assumptions about the parenting skills of another person who you've never even met. The true tragedy here is that this story made the news. A semi-personal issue not went national simply because it was an XMAS present that was involved. How very sad.
Joseph Dempsey joseph_r_dempsey@yahoo.com
I do know kids with ADHD, they're just fine and so are their mothers.
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peterchen wrote:
No it's not "normal".
My point exactly
V.
Stop smoking so you can: Enjoy longer the money you save. Moviereview ArchiveOh sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought your point was that the other is a bitch which clearly doesn't have a clue what the word 'education' means, and the disruptiveness probably being caused by herself. Or is that your definition of "not normal"?
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Oh sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought your point was that the other is a bitch which clearly doesn't have a clue what the word 'education' means, and the disruptiveness probably being caused by herself. Or is that your definition of "not normal"?
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Linkify!|Fold With Us!What I meant was that no matter what illness the kid might have, calling the police for opening a christmas present too soon is way over the top. It will only have a contrary effect. (but ok, I shouldn't have used the word b****, but I stay in my opinion that she could do with some educational tips for her son)
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Kids are different, and there is no foolproof "educating kids for Dummies" method. Unless I'd have dealt with this kid, I wouldn't dare to judge the mother. At least over here, single mothers are tough tanks.
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Unless I'd have dealt with this kid, I wouldn't dare to judge the mother.
I would NOT dare to judge the mother unless if the kid is bit like 666. May the kid be like Dennis*.. or even more problematic, calling the police is some what weird. X|. It shows even the mother is a just a kid. Not enough matured to handle kids. :sigh: *the menace
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And if he repoduces at the same age the mother would become a grandmother at 30. Geez I'm 32 and I cannot imagine being a grandfather just yet - I still feel a few years away from fatherhood.
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And if he repoduces at the same age the mother would become a grandmother at 30. Geez I'm 32 and I cannot imagine being a grandfather just yet - I still feel a few years away from fatherhood.
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The boy being introduced to the police at an early age will soon find it natural. That will give him a chance to scale up in his relationship to the authorities :( That might explain why they have to reproduce fast... I wonder how the mother will cope with having taught her son, she just can't handle him, on her own? Maybe when she was 14, her parents took her to the police for going out with this little guy, who became the absent father? Way overkill. Considering the kid like a 'problem' to solve is no replacement for building a decent mother/son relationship. Still, being parent is not easy, so let's try not to judge hastily.
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She must have kept it secret place. She's stupid. The kid should have called the police about her stupidity.
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VuNic wrote:
She must have kept it secret place
That's right. Knowing the kid was going to have a hard time refraining himself from looking at his gift, that sounds a bit sadistic. Even though the kid was expected to learn to refrain himself, he is a kid, and might need time to learn. She could have brought him gradually from one situation to the next to learn how he was expected to behave. Bashing him like this looks more like dog training than raising a kid. I wonder how she was reacting to her parents when she was a pregnant teenager.
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jason_lakewhitney wrote:
Mybe sitting the night in jail might change the boys attitude.
His attitude will definitely change, but not necessarily for the better.
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DavidCrow wrote:
not necessarily for the better
Yup. If he spends a night in jail, when peeking at his Xmas present, he might wonder next time he should do somehting worthy of being treated that way.