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  • N Nish Nishant

    Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

    Regards, Nish


    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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    Dan Neely
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    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly.

    Maybe it should be rewritten in Plain English. In this unique case it couldn't possibly be more fubared.

    -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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      Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

      Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Just wait for 13.

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        Just wait for 13.

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        daniilzol
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        To be released next Friday...

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        • N Nish Nishant

          Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

          Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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          Marc Clifton
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          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

          You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly.

          You'd think that after 12 versions we programmers would be smart enough not to use that POS. Marc

          Thyme In The Country

          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly.

            You'd think that after 12 versions we programmers would be smart enough not to use that POS. Marc

            Thyme In The Country

            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            It turns out that even the wiser altenatives are not that wise at all.


            Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly.

              You'd think that after 12 versions we programmers would be smart enough not to use that POS. Marc

              Thyme In The Country

              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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              Todd Smith
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              Marc Clifton wrote:

              Nishant Sivakumar wrote: You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. You'd think that after 12 versions we programmers would be smart enough not to use that POS.

              Digital Masochism has infected us all.

              Todd Smith

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

                Regards, Nish


                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                Member 96
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                Wow! Sounds like it's improved since I used to use it. ;) Just wait until they fix that problem only in a paid for update to version 13 then you'll feel about as friendly toward them as I do which is to say not at all.

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

                  Regards, Nish


                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                  amclint
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                  I swear some developers leave bugs like that in just as a joke because they hate their job or something.

                  if (!interested){return false;} amclint

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

                    Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                    Lost User
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                    Wow nishant you are so awesome your the best poster on the internet i fucking love the jokes you post .

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                      Ed Poore
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                      NSIS? At least you're in control and customising it shouldn't be a problem for a C++ guru like you. Use the installer as a bootstrapper for installing .NET and then use NSIS & C++/CLI or whatever it's called this month to create a fantastic experience for the user. Simple, come on even I managed to whip together some plugins (albeit in ANSI C) to install mods into GTA from NSIS. Then created an XSLT stylesheet to have a simple xml file define how to install it. Must resurrect those and convert them to the new SA formats, make my life of installing mods much easier :-D


                      I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                        KevinMac
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                        I have been all day long trying to get Biztalk 2004 setup for a project and it keeps dying on the single sign on service configuration over and over and over.... I guess I am having a tough time getting to the smiling part you achieved but I have a couple of hours left. :)

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                          Wow nishant you are so awesome your the best poster on the internet i fucking love the jokes you post .

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                          Mark Salsbery
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                          Somebody's cranky and needs a nap...

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

                            Regards, Nish


                            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                            Matt Gerrans
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                            Wow. At least they accept and even embrace the fact that their product sucks so badly that it is necessary to create a little automatic restart agent to revive it after frequent crashes. :doh: Brilliant. Actually, doesn't Outlook do something like this, too?

                            Matt Gerrans

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                            • D Dan Neely

                              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                              You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly.

                              Maybe it should be rewritten in Plain English. In this unique case it couldn't possibly be more fubared.

                              -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                              Paul Conrad
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                              dan neely wrote:

                              it should be rewritten in Plain English

                              Must you summon the Grand Troll :->


                              "That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi

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                                Just wait for 13.

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                                Paul Conrad
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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                Just wait for 13.

                                They could just skip 13 and go to 14. Just like how big buildings don't have a thirteenth floor...


                                "That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi

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                                • E Ed Poore

                                  NSIS? At least you're in control and customising it shouldn't be a problem for a C++ guru like you. Use the installer as a bootstrapper for installing .NET and then use NSIS & C++/CLI or whatever it's called this month to create a fantastic experience for the user. Simple, come on even I managed to whip together some plugins (albeit in ANSI C) to install mods into GTA from NSIS. Then created an XSLT stylesheet to have a simple xml file define how to install it. Must resurrect those and convert them to the new SA formats, make my life of installing mods much easier :-D


                                  I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.

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                                  Paul Conrad
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                                  Ed.Poore wrote:

                                  NSIS?

                                  That one is good :)


                                  "That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                    You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly.

                                    You'd think that after 12 versions we programmers would be smart enough not to use that POS. Marc

                                    Thyme In The Country

                                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                    Gary R Wheeler
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                                    do {
                                    VoteFor(Marc,5);
                                    } while (!end_of_time);

                                    Inno Setup[^] rules.


                                    Software Zen: delete this;

                                    Fold With Us![^]

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                                      Somebody's cranky and needs a nap...

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                                      Gary R Wheeler
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                                      Somebody's cranky and needs a nap... a spanking with a two-by-four.


                                      Software Zen: delete this;

                                      Fold With Us![^]

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                                        do {
                                        VoteFor(Marc,5);
                                        } while (!end_of_time);

                                        Inno Setup[^] rules.


                                        Software Zen: delete this;

                                        Fold With Us![^]

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                                        Inno Setup[^] rules.

                                        So I've heard. Yet to try it out! :-D Marc

                                        Thyme In The Country

                                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                        • N Nish Nishant

                                          Today's joke : Installshield 12. [/end of joke] It builds a project "once" and only "once". After that, it crashes and then re-starts itself (which is nice if you think of it). After watching it crash and re-start a few dozen times, I somehow got used to it. Annoyance got replaced with a smile each time I watched it do the stupid routine. It's got a Report-error option which attempts to email an error log to an address - though if you don't have MAPI setup, it brings up the IE email-setup dialog (which was even more annoying). You'd think 12 versions would be good enough to get something as basic to its functionality as the build-process working correctly. :|

                                          Regards, Nish


                                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                                          Gary R Wheeler
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                                          Unfortunately, the last time InstallShield didn't suck was back when it still created 16-bit installs.


                                          Software Zen: delete this;

                                          Fold With Us![^]

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