Is this a good thing?
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
But in the end you have to prove you have changed, not that everyone else here are idiots for not following your beliefs.
I don't think - and have never said - that the people here are "idiots" for not following my beliefs. I have said, and will say again now, that I think they are wrong, as in incorrect in not doing so; certainly wrong in not first studying those beliefs before rejecting them. But how else can things be? You think I'm wrong in many of my beliefs, and you therefore fervently oppose them, giving various facts and examples to support your opinion. You think I'm wrong in my approach to propagating those beliefs, and so you passionately criticise it, suggesting improvements according to the light that's been given you. Fine; that's called discussion and argument and "the free exchange of ideas". But you don't delete my posts! That would be nothing but censorship. Yes. I have a great deal of meaningful things in my head (in my opinion) and I intend to "download" those things into other heads before I die; the good parts, I trust, will stick and be further developed, while the nonsense will fall away. But I won't apologize for that; that's exactly what teachers do. And I encourage you to do the same. When I heard that you were teaching your girlfriend's son (I think it was) about computers, I thought, "Good. I think the kid would benefit more from hearing from both of us, rather than either one of us alone, but good nevertheless." (By the way, if you'd like a copy of Plain English for the little guy, just let me know. It will give you a lot to talk about!)
The Grand Negus wrote:
I don't think - and have never said - that the people here are "idiots" for not following my beliefs. I have said, and will say again now, that I think they are wrong, as in incorrect in not doing so; certainly wrong in not first studying those beliefs before rejecting them.
You do not use the "word" but you do downgrade them. I can tell you from experience why integers do not work, you reject them. I can explain to you the loss of bits at the top or bottom end of the integer during math operations, you ignore them. You simply claim you are right, quote something about God, your miracle son, or somesuch as justification for your greatness. You are a narcissist, you are always right even when you are dead wrong. It is useless to explain anything to you, you simply down-talk the person as if you are the messenger of God, you as much call them an "idiot" without using the word by telling them to find new teachers, new schools, reject their schools and join your foray into who knows what. You ignore common sense even when we offer it to you. I did not delete your posts, I find them rubish of the worst kind because such errors in integer math costs fortunes, have in the past, which is WHY WE DON'T USE THEM! There is a reason why we have floating point numbers, it is specific to the bit storage and operations on a digital computer. If you ignore a computer, sure an integer is as great and wonderful as a floating point number, possibly even better. But as soon as you put it in a computer word, you change the result, you restrict the math operations, and you need twice as many integers, and twice as many bits (both) in order to do the same math operations as a floating point number. To hold a 64bit integer representation of any number, you need to put it in a 128bit integer in order to do multiplication on it. To express a floating point number, you need two integers (a multiplier and a divisor), Where have you saved any bits? You need 256bits to store a 64bit result! egad, and you think you are a genius for devising this? Well guess what, you didn't. It was used for COBOL storage, and is a prime reason for the loss of the language as a whole due to the inaccuracies built into the language due to integer representation of floating point numbers. You ignore those of us who have the experience for your ideas that have little to do with mathematics, and absolutely nothing to do with a computer except on the operation of a theoretical c
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CaveFox wrote:
You just don't like to make friends do you?
No, I don't. As I've said many times before on these forums, I'm not here to make friends; I'm looking for disciples. I'm not looking for people who fit in here - I'm looking for the ones who don't. I'm looking for a few choice individuals to help me develop something significant before I go the way of all flesh. People who can think clearly, unemotionally, and creatively with extreme focus. People, in short, who are willing to learn and able to get things done. I've got no time or interest in contentious, undisciplined, lazy, cowardly, beligerant, sloppy, or otherwise defective individuals who do not want to improve themselves and their situation. Been there, done that. Waste of time.
The Grand Negus wrote:
People who can think clearly, unemotionally, and creatively with extreme focus. People, in short, who are willing to learn and able to get things done.
You are talking to them, and p*ssing them off. Some of us have change the various industries already, reshaped the world as we saw fit. You can call us lazy, cowardly, belligerent, sloppy, or otherwise, but open up the door to a computer shop and see the number of 3D games, and boards, and ask yourself who was part of that revolution before you reject all of us out of hand as ignorant hoodlums who are simply ignorant of your genius. :zzz:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
But in the end you have to prove you have changed, not that everyone else here are idiots for not following your beliefs.
I don't think - and have never said - that the people here are "idiots" for not following my beliefs. I have said, and will say again now, that I think they are wrong, as in incorrect in not doing so; certainly wrong in not first studying those beliefs before rejecting them. But how else can things be? You think I'm wrong in many of my beliefs, and you therefore fervently oppose them, giving various facts and examples to support your opinion. You think I'm wrong in my approach to propagating those beliefs, and so you passionately criticise it, suggesting improvements according to the light that's been given you. Fine; that's called discussion and argument and "the free exchange of ideas". But you don't delete my posts! That would be nothing but censorship. Yes. I have a great deal of meaningful things in my head (in my opinion) and I intend to "download" those things into other heads before I die; the good parts, I trust, will stick and be further developed, while the nonsense will fall away. But I won't apologize for that; that's exactly what teachers do. And I encourage you to do the same. When I heard that you were teaching your girlfriend's son (I think it was) about computers, I thought, "Good. I think the kid would benefit more from hearing from both of us, rather than either one of us alone, but good nevertheless." (By the way, if you'd like a copy of Plain English for the little guy, just let me know. It will give you a lot to talk about!)
The Grand Negus wrote:
(By the way, if you'd like a copy of Plain English for the little guy, just let me know. It will give you a lot to talk about!)
I am not teaching him programming, unless he wants to learn programming. That includes C/C++/C#/VB or PE. I am not looking for disciples, my legacy lives in the industry I work in. I am looking to encourage a child's curiosity for the world at large, that includes computers, astronomy, science, and especially the gymnastics and history he already loves. I haven't berated him with do this, or do that. He is his own person, with his own mind, which I encourage to think, we talked about the science behind magnetic levitation, rockets, telescopes, flight, including the science behind wing and engine design to achieve lift and demonstrations of theory of lift using a glider. These are things he already had an interest in, I simply had the knowledge to offer, his mother did not, nor his father. If he were not already curious, I would not offer just to push my agenda. Because I am not seeking disciples. I have pushed my agenda on the rest of the 3D industry, which is one of the reasons it has grown so much, and why it now includes floating point numbers in its math also (finally), and has pushed out of the graphics industry to press on general computation, spreading into every other computer industry. But he will choose what he wants, if that is law, great, if that is Astronomy, great still, if that is a high school gym teacher, still great, and programming just the same. As long as it is his goal in life and not his Mother's, his Father's, or mine. He is not a disciple to me, he is a person, which is far better in my opinion.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The Grand Negus wrote:
(By the way, if you'd like a copy of Plain English for the little guy, just let me know. It will give you a lot to talk about!)
I am not teaching him programming, unless he wants to learn programming. That includes C/C++/C#/VB or PE. I am not looking for disciples, my legacy lives in the industry I work in. I am looking to encourage a child's curiosity for the world at large, that includes computers, astronomy, science, and especially the gymnastics and history he already loves. I haven't berated him with do this, or do that. He is his own person, with his own mind, which I encourage to think, we talked about the science behind magnetic levitation, rockets, telescopes, flight, including the science behind wing and engine design to achieve lift and demonstrations of theory of lift using a glider. These are things he already had an interest in, I simply had the knowledge to offer, his mother did not, nor his father. If he were not already curious, I would not offer just to push my agenda. Because I am not seeking disciples. I have pushed my agenda on the rest of the 3D industry, which is one of the reasons it has grown so much, and why it now includes floating point numbers in its math also (finally), and has pushed out of the graphics industry to press on general computation, spreading into every other computer industry. But he will choose what he wants, if that is law, great, if that is Astronomy, great still, if that is a high school gym teacher, still great, and programming just the same. As long as it is his goal in life and not his Mother's, his Father's, or mine. He is not a disciple to me, he is a person, which is far better in my opinion.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
He is not a disciple to me, he is a person, which is far better in my opinion.
You seem to think that a disciple is a person who is forced to do or believe something against his will. The definition, however (which I take from dictionary.com), is simply, "a person who is a pupil or an adherent of the doctrines of another". In other words, a disciple is a person who has chosen to make one or more of the teachings of another his own - think "good student". Being a disciple doesn't make one less of a person; it just saves that person the toil and trouble of re-inventing various wheels.
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
He is not a disciple to me, he is a person, which is far better in my opinion.
You seem to think that a disciple is a person who is forced to do or believe something against his will. The definition, however (which I take from dictionary.com), is simply, "a person who is a pupil or an adherent of the doctrines of another". In other words, a disciple is a person who has chosen to make one or more of the teachings of another his own - think "good student". Being a disciple doesn't make one less of a person; it just saves that person the toil and trouble of re-inventing various wheels.
The Grand Negus wrote:
Being a disciple doesn't make one less of a person; it just saves that person the toil and trouble of re-inventing various wheels.
A disciple chooses of his own free will, the teacher does not go out searching for him. Demanding that he obey his ideals. A true student is there by freedom. A true teacher listens to the world also. A true disciple, a true student, is won by respect, not religious dogma. A river flows downhill, it follows the laws of gravity. Through valleys and past mountains it meanders. It does not seek to force the mountains to move, it does not demand to roll uphill. It is the greatest teacher of all, for its force is unmistakably strong. But it does bend, it respects the world around it, and the laws that govern it. It adapts, it moves with the wind, and with the changing landscape, just as it also changes the landscape on its own. A true teacher is like a river, adapting, learning also, not demanding that the world change for it.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Chris Maunder wrote:
We are here to: a) Help developers in their Visual Studio and .NET development b) Allow authors to showcase their Visual Studio and .NET talents c) Focus on Visual Studio and .NET in order to keep things simple for everyone I've put everything I have in me for the last 7 years to stay on track with these goals.
Are you quite sure? Seven years? (1) The subtitle under your logo that says "Your Visual Studio and .NET Homepage" was not there when we first joined less than a year ago; I have a screen shot of the CodeProject home page - with the advertisement you sold us displayed in the upper left - to prove it. You knew who we were and what we were selling at that time; why didn't you refuse to sell us advertising, or at least discourage us from buying? On the contrary, you and your employees encouraged us to advertise here, and the trend continues: one of your members encouraged us to take out more ads this very day, and another platinum-level member and one of your "protectors" suggested that we write articles for the site on natural language programming. A third individual suggested we advertise in our signature (a suggestion that several high-ranking members have made to us before). (2) The .NET framework was not a serious contender for development seven years ago. (3) A cursory examination of the lounge reveals over 100 distinct messages discussing LINUX, all posted within the last month. (4) The "Mathematics and Algorithms" forum appears to be quite general in scope and character. (5) The brand new "Design and Architecture" forum gives no indication that it is product-specific. (6) The General Discussions forum still carries the description, "For discussing anything relevant to this site, or to the developer community as a whole." (7) The Lounge is described as a place "For lazing about and discussing anything that takes your fancy." (8) The Soapbox is provided specifically for "off-topic" rants and states that "If you want to get something off your chest then do it here," where "something" clearly means "pretty much anything" based on the content of that forum. (9) The Work and Training Issues forum is broad enough to include those who want to "Talk about work issues, get tips on resume writing or discussion certification programs." How that is Visual Studio or .NET specific escapes me. (10) Not to mention that there is also a SQL forum, a
The Grand Negus wrote:
I've always known that this site catered to C-style programmers; but when I see a forum with a description that invites discussion of "anything relevant... to the developer community as a whole" I just can't resist. And when I see one of those "developers, students, or those looking for help" that you mention floundering around in a pool of confusion, I feel it's my duty to offer what assistance I can.
The vast ocean lets fish leap freely; the endless sky lets birds fly freely. The fish do not seek lost fish in the sky; nor the birds seek for lost birds in the ocean. If you knew you were out of place. A fish out of water gasps in pain for he cannot breath air. A bird in the ocean will drown, for he cannot breath water. You reject the reactions that come from your own actions, like a bird complaining to the fish because he cannot breath water, while demanding that they somehow allow him to breath water.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Being a disciple doesn't make one less of a person; it just saves that person the toil and trouble of re-inventing various wheels.
A disciple chooses of his own free will, the teacher does not go out searching for him. Demanding that he obey his ideals. A true student is there by freedom. A true teacher listens to the world also. A true disciple, a true student, is won by respect, not religious dogma. A river flows downhill, it follows the laws of gravity. Through valleys and past mountains it meanders. It does not seek to force the mountains to move, it does not demand to roll uphill. It is the greatest teacher of all, for its force is unmistakably strong. But it does bend, it respects the world around it, and the laws that govern it. It adapts, it moves with the wind, and with the changing landscape, just as it also changes the landscape on its own. A true teacher is like a river, adapting, learning also, not demanding that the world change for it.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
A true disciple, a true student, is won by respect, not religious dogma.
Are you quite sure? "The Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumblingblock, and to the Greeks foolishness; but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God."
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
A river flows downhill, it follows the laws of gravity. Through valleys and past mountains it meanders. It does not seek to force the mountains to move, it does not demand to roll uphill. It is the greatest teacher of all, for its force is unmistakably strong. But it does bend, it respects the world around it, and the laws that govern it. It adapts, it moves with the wind, and with the changing landscape, just as it also changes the landscape on its own. A true teacher is like a river, adapting, learning also, not demanding that the world change for it.
Very poetic. But I can't buy it. One of my masters warned me that "whosoever will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God" and I believe he was right. The world, Jeffry, is wrong about almost everything (which explains why things are such a universal mess). So I'm not at all interested in "adapting" to the world; I've accepted the fact that I'm a stranger and a pilgrim here and will be until the day I die. Until then, I'm just the voice of one crying in the wilderness, "Make straight the way..."
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The Grand Negus wrote:
I've always known that this site catered to C-style programmers; but when I see a forum with a description that invites discussion of "anything relevant... to the developer community as a whole" I just can't resist. And when I see one of those "developers, students, or those looking for help" that you mention floundering around in a pool of confusion, I feel it's my duty to offer what assistance I can.
The vast ocean lets fish leap freely; the endless sky lets birds fly freely. The fish do not seek lost fish in the sky; nor the birds seek for lost birds in the ocean. If you knew you were out of place. A fish out of water gasps in pain for he cannot breath air. A bird in the ocean will drown, for he cannot breath water. You reject the reactions that come from your own actions, like a bird complaining to the fish because he cannot breath water, while demanding that they somehow allow him to breath water.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
The fish do not seek lost fish in the sky; nor the birds seek for lost birds in the ocean.
Bad analogy on this one, Jeffry. If "C" programmers are sharks, then Plain English programmers are dolphins or whales - but certainly not sparrows!
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
A true disciple, a true student, is won by respect, not religious dogma.
Are you quite sure? "The Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumblingblock, and to the Greeks foolishness; but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God."
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
A river flows downhill, it follows the laws of gravity. Through valleys and past mountains it meanders. It does not seek to force the mountains to move, it does not demand to roll uphill. It is the greatest teacher of all, for its force is unmistakably strong. But it does bend, it respects the world around it, and the laws that govern it. It adapts, it moves with the wind, and with the changing landscape, just as it also changes the landscape on its own. A true teacher is like a river, adapting, learning also, not demanding that the world change for it.
Very poetic. But I can't buy it. One of my masters warned me that "whosoever will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God" and I believe he was right. The world, Jeffry, is wrong about almost everything (which explains why things are such a universal mess). So I'm not at all interested in "adapting" to the world; I've accepted the fact that I'm a stranger and a pilgrim here and will be until the day I die. Until then, I'm just the voice of one crying in the wilderness, "Make straight the way..."
The Grand Negus wrote:
One of my masters warned me that "whosoever will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God" and I believe he was right.
Then he warned you to give up, and die. For you are of the world, and the world is of you. If the world is your enemy, then you also are your own enemy, so is your compiler, which is of the world, so are all of your posts, demanding to be part of the world here. So then you are the hypocrite here, demanding to be part of the world you hate, and of which your master told you is evil, you are standing among us demanding to be your own version of evil.
The Grand Negus wrote:
Until then, I'm just the voice of one crying in the wilderness, "Make straight the way..."
There is a difference between watching the mind and controlling the mind. Watching the mind with a gentle, open attitude allows the mind to settle down and come to rest. Trying to control the mind, or trying to control the way one's spiritual practice will unfold, just stirs up more agitation and suffering.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
The fish do not seek lost fish in the sky; nor the birds seek for lost birds in the ocean.
Bad analogy on this one, Jeffry. If "C" programmers are sharks, then Plain English programmers are dolphins or whales - but certainly not sparrows!
The Grand Negus wrote:
then Plain English programmers are dolphins or whales
sorry, dolphins can understand fractions, geodetic locations, and massively large number theory. PE would be the simplest of creatures... by your own definition, they would be jelly fish, demanding the ocean turn in their direction. Whales and dolphins understand adaption, you yourself say "make straight the way", therefore you are the jelly fish, demanding the ocean currents bend to your will, and cursing them for not doing so.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Everybody and anybody, based (hopefully) on the evidence available to them. People make judgements about other people all the time. You, for example, have made a number of judgements about me based on my posts here. That is the product that we are offering as "proof of concept" regarding our theories, our practices, and our goals. It appears in nearly every post because we're looking for people who are interested in those theories, practices, and goals, as I've said before.
I am sorry it was not intended to sound like that or judge you. I just meant to point out that your posts did kinda sound like advertising.
The Grand Negus wrote:
our contribution to this site is unique and manifold: new and different ideas
There is nothing wrong with that and people that don't like it might be close minded. Personally I always like to learn/try something new. If you need somebody to help test or preferably help code a module, feel free to contact me :-D
Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness. ~Sheik Abd-al-Kadir
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I'd rather read about the Plain English Compiler (even though I too find it mildly annoying) than the stupid "It's Friday"-threads. So maybe if the "Clan of CodeProject" stopped playing the police of the Internet there would be something for everybody.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandRohde wrote:
the police of the Internet
Was I away during Chris' hostile take-over of the internet? Wow!
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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I'd rather read about the Plain English Compiler (even though I too find it mildly annoying) than the stupid "It's Friday"-threads. So maybe if the "Clan of CodeProject" stopped playing the police of the Internet there would be something for everybody.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Chris Maunder wrote:
We are here to: a) Help developers in their Visual Studio and .NET development b) Allow authors to showcase their Visual Studio and .NET talents c) Focus on Visual Studio and .NET in order to keep things simple for everyone I've put everything I have in me for the last 7 years to stay on track with these goals.
Are you quite sure? Seven years? (1) The subtitle under your logo that says "Your Visual Studio and .NET Homepage" was not there when we first joined less than a year ago; I have a screen shot of the CodeProject home page - with the advertisement you sold us displayed in the upper left - to prove it. You knew who we were and what we were selling at that time; why didn't you refuse to sell us advertising, or at least discourage us from buying? On the contrary, you and your employees encouraged us to advertise here, and the trend continues: one of your members encouraged us to take out more ads this very day, and another platinum-level member and one of your "protectors" suggested that we write articles for the site on natural language programming. A third individual suggested we advertise in our signature (a suggestion that several high-ranking members have made to us before). (2) The .NET framework was not a serious contender for development seven years ago. (3) A cursory examination of the lounge reveals over 100 distinct messages discussing LINUX, all posted within the last month. (4) The "Mathematics and Algorithms" forum appears to be quite general in scope and character. (5) The brand new "Design and Architecture" forum gives no indication that it is product-specific. (6) The General Discussions forum still carries the description, "For discussing anything relevant to this site, or to the developer community as a whole." (7) The Lounge is described as a place "For lazing about and discussing anything that takes your fancy." (8) The Soapbox is provided specifically for "off-topic" rants and states that "If you want to get something off your chest then do it here," where "something" clearly means "pretty much anything" based on the content of that forum. (9) The Work and Training Issues forum is broad enough to include those who want to "Talk about work issues, get tips on resume writing or discussion certification programs." How that is Visual Studio or .NET specific escapes me. (10) Not to mention that there is also a SQL forum, a
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The Grand Negus wrote:
then Plain English programmers are dolphins or whales
sorry, dolphins can understand fractions, geodetic locations, and massively large number theory. PE would be the simplest of creatures... by your own definition, they would be jelly fish, demanding the ocean turn in their direction. Whales and dolphins understand adaption, you yourself say "make straight the way", therefore you are the jelly fish, demanding the ocean currents bend to your will, and cursing them for not doing so.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Hey Jeffry! Here's something ironically humorous, since we were discussing "disciples" elsewhere in this thread. I just noticed that the guy who posted below (Phil Harding) says in his profile here, and I quote, "Since discovering Windows in the early 90's I've never looked back and consider myself to be a fully paid-up practising disciple of the Microsoft church." I guess the Osmosian Order isn't the only one proselytizing around here!:)
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Hey Jeffry! Here's something ironically humorous, since we were discussing "disciples" elsewhere in this thread. I just noticed that the guy who posted below (Phil Harding) says in his profile here, and I quote, "Since discovering Windows in the early 90's I've never looked back and consider myself to be a fully paid-up practising disciple of the Microsoft church." I guess the Osmosian Order isn't the only one proselytizing around here!:)
The Grand Negus wrote:
I guess the Osmosian Order isn't the only one proselytizing around here!
he was joking, you are proselytizing. :rolleyes:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The Grand Negus wrote:
I guess the Osmosian Order isn't the only one proselytizing around here!
he was joking, you are proselytizing. :rolleyes:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
he was joking, you are proselytizing.
True, and not true. Phil may be joking, but Maunder isn't; he's very serious about "converting" the world to Microsoft's way of thinking and doing. And while it's true that I am proselytizing, I'm clearly doing so with a distinct sense of humor. Do you think I call myself "Grand Negus" - offering my hairy ears as justification for the title - because I think that will make people take me seriously?
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
he was joking, you are proselytizing.
True, and not true. Phil may be joking, but Maunder isn't; he's very serious about "converting" the world to Microsoft's way of thinking and doing. And while it's true that I am proselytizing, I'm clearly doing so with a distinct sense of humor. Do you think I call myself "Grand Negus" - offering my hairy ears as justification for the title - because I think that will make people take me seriously?
The Grand Negus wrote:
but Maunder isn't; he's very serious about "converting" the world to Microsoft's way of thinking and doing.
Build your own servers, build your own site, create your own forum written in PE, and then you won't have to bother Maunder on the machines he pays for. You might as well go into Microsoft owned buildings and start yelling at everyone to convert to PE. Only then you would find yourself arrested for disturbing the peace, tresspassing, or any number of other minor crimes that prevent you from proselytizing on private property EVEN IN THE USA.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The Grand Negus wrote:
a re-write of our Plain English development system in C#
Your suggestion fails to meet the needs of the original poster asking for assistance. He needs a practical application from the real world as an example. A development environment or compiler, regardless of the target language, doesn't strike me as a good place to start.
The Grand Negus wrote:
without cost or obligation
I checked your website. The only way to obtain significant information on your product is to buy it. Your manifesto states that your 'royalty fees are reasonable'. A purchase is not 'without cost'. Royalty fees imply a contract, which is an obligation. Even your offer of 'free evaluation copies' fails to meet this criteria, since you restrict those to requestors that meet your approval, which is another form of contract.
The Grand Negus wrote:
Is this a good thing?
Yes it is. You consistently violate the standard of behavior here at Code Project. Contrary to what you've posted elsewhere in this thread, that standard is posted on the Lounge main page: do not post ads. Practically every response you make that I have ever seen can easily be construed as an advertisement for your "Plain English" product. This meets the definition of spam.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
Your suggestion fails to meet the needs of the original poster asking for assistance.
I think the original poster is a ruse, see posters profile[^] I would not be surprised if "hpjchobbes" is "Negus", (or as someone else pointed out "The Grand Nag Us" :laugh:) trying a new scheme to advertise his wares. X| It is just a bit suspect that this "hpjchobbes" joins on December 30th and posts this great segue for advertising, yet again, some cult software product. :~ Both posts were to the same thread; one to start it and the other to give thanks for the reply. Sounds like a setup. :rolleyes: Where is "hpjchobbes" by the way; he, I presume it is a he, posted this question within minutes of joining and didn’t even have the courtesy to reply to any of the other respondents except this one? :| Next "hpjchobbes" will be referencing bible passages illustrating how once he was lost but has read the manifesto and now has seen the light. :rolleyes:
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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The Grand Negus wrote:
but Maunder isn't; he's very serious about "converting" the world to Microsoft's way of thinking and doing.
Build your own servers, build your own site, create your own forum written in PE, and then you won't have to bother Maunder on the machines he pays for. You might as well go into Microsoft owned buildings and start yelling at everyone to convert to PE. Only then you would find yourself arrested for disturbing the peace, tresspassing, or any number of other minor crimes that prevent you from proselytizing on private property EVEN IN THE USA.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Only then you would find yourself arrested for disturbing the peace, tresspassing, or any number of other minor crimes that prevent you from proselytizing on private property EVEN IN THE USA.
Right. Which is along the same lines as my closing remarks to Maunder above. The physical world works as well as it does because there are legal and inforceable definitions of things such as "trespassing". The virtual world of the internet doesn't work quite right because the uninhibited "free exchange of information" is in conflict with various rights of individuals and limitations necessary to make the thing operate smoothly. Eventually, Maunder will have to either force out people who don't fit his profile, or not let them in in the first place. Right now, he's got a problem because he's not fully willing to do either - he lets anyone in to bump the member count, and doesn't decrement it when someone leaves under any conditions; in fact, there is no user-accessible facility for leaving. And so we get mixed messages (which I, admittedly, am taking advantage of). When this site is clearly a Microsoft-only site, and one is required to agree to stated conditions in order to become a CodeProject disciple (sorry, member), I'll be excluded simply because I won't accept those terms; and if I did appear in that future CodeProject, I'd be quickly ejected as a trespasser. But CodeProject is not, yet, such a place; many here who joined when it was different still wish it was more diverse, like it was when they first became members (see the Suggestion forum for evidence). In other words, it seems like Maunder gathered his membership under one pretense, but is now attempting to implement the "hidden agenda" on which he has been working so hard for seven years.