MVP Behavior
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Is this[^] a proper response from an MVP?
MVP are simply guys who do their best to help other, not intending to steal members for one's own crappy product... By the way, do you want more ? or did you finnaly decided to understand that codeproject is not the place for your adverts ? oh, and to finish, turn off your trolls... your votes are simply not credibles for a 2 minutes posted message
Don't know where to start ?
Refer the Forums Guidelines and ask a friendI'm now curious as to what the linked post was seeing as the OPs message was removed.
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I'm now curious as to what the linked post was seeing as the OPs message was removed.
Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I'm now curious as to what the linked post was seeing as the OPs message was removed.
Don't know where to start ?
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I'm now curious as to what the linked post was seeing as the OPs message was removed.
Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I'm now curious as to what the linked post was seeing as the OPs message was removed.
check my definitions at the end.... although I don't use the word, I think you can figure out what word was used at him that he complained.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Captain See Sharp wrote something like:
Write your Plain English compilerr in C#
But why would we want to do such a thing? It's simple and efficient as it stands. And we only have to know one language to maintain and extend it - Plain English.
The Grand Negus wrote:
But why would we want to do such a thing? It's simple and efficient as it stands. And we only have to know one language to maintain and extend it - Plain English.
I'd rather program with a Hexeditor. You would want to do such a thing because it would get plenty of attention, make it open source and write it in a real programming language, make it work with .NET!!! Then people would be able to extend their current software systems in P.E. Its just a smart thing to do.
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The Nag-Us' latest device; "hell bound" was created today! :~ hell bound[^] :doh::doh::doh:
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
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The Nag-Us' latest device; "hell bound" was created today! :~ hell bound[^] :doh::doh::doh:
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
JimmyRopes wrote:
The Nag-Us' latest device
No it's nothing to do with Negus. This guy is Kyle.
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan
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The Nag-Us' latest device; "hell bound" was created today! :~ hell bound[^] :doh::doh::doh:
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes
at least he now understands where he is going.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The Grand Negus wrote:
But why would we want to do such a thing? It's simple and efficient as it stands. And we only have to know one language to maintain and extend it - Plain English.
I'd rather program with a Hexeditor. You would want to do such a thing because it would get plenty of attention, make it open source and write it in a real programming language, make it work with .NET!!! Then people would be able to extend their current software systems in P.E. Its just a smart thing to do.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
a real programming language
Please define this term so I can better understand you.
The Grand Negus wrote:
Please define this term so I can better understand you.
A real programming language - A computer programming language used in real world applications. Like I said if you .NETify your language people might use it.
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Please define this term so I can better understand you.
A real programming language - A computer programming language used in real world applications. Like I said if you .NETify your language people might use it.
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
A real programming language - A computer programming language used in real world applications.
Please claify. What constitutes a "real world application"?
The Grand Negus wrote:
Please claify. What constitutes a "real world application"?
http://www.vterrain.org/Misc/defense.html[^] http://www.colorado.edu/geography/gcraft/notes/datum/gif/xyzllh.gif[^] :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Captain See Sharp wrote:
A real programming language - A computer programming language used in real world applications.
Please claify. What constitutes a "real world application"?
and http://www.moshier.net/[^] http://www.stellarium.org/[^] http://www.shatters.net/celestia/[^] if you want an "out of this world" application. -- modified at 22:44 Wednesday 3rd January, 2007
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Please claify. What constitutes a "real world application"?
http://www.vterrain.org/Misc/defense.html[^] http://www.colorado.edu/geography/gcraft/notes/datum/gif/xyzllh.gif[^] :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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and http://www.moshier.net/[^] http://www.stellarium.org/[^] http://www.shatters.net/celestia/[^] if you want an "out of this world" application. -- modified at 22:44 Wednesday 3rd January, 2007
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
The question was "What constitutes a real-world application?" as in, "How can we distinguish a real-world application from a non-real-world application?" Five (or more) examples don't help. You didn't list "Google"; is that a real-world application? What about Visual Basic? Applesoft Basic? Zork?
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The Grand Negus wrote:
And are those the only two?
no, but there are more than there are lines in your compiler.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The question was "What constitutes a real-world application?" as in, "How can we distinguish a real-world application from a non-real-world application?" Five (or more) examples don't help. You didn't list "Google"; is that a real-world application? What about Visual Basic? Applesoft Basic? Zork?
Well even if they aren't classified as "real-world applications" we might show a bit more of respect if your PEC could be demonstrated to do either one of these. E.g. yes we know VB & PE are both programming languages (I use the term loosly in this case) but while we've seen demos of what VB can do (both through videos and programs that can actually be downloaded and run) we have seen nothing, absolutely nothing from your compiler. You're thinking so abstractly that you've forgotten the one thing a compiler is meant to do, produce an executable (that runs).
I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.
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The question was "What constitutes a real-world application?" as in, "How can we distinguish a real-world application from a non-real-world application?" Five (or more) examples don't help. You didn't list "Google"; is that a real-world application? What about Visual Basic? Applesoft Basic? Zork?
The Grand Negus wrote:
You didn't list "Google"; is that a real-world application? What about Visual Basic? Applesoft Basic? Zork?
I didn't list a lot of things, because the world is full of real world applications. First, it has do do more than promote itself, that is an advertisement blurb not a real-world application. I don't think you would like the answers for those, A) you could never write Google with PE, it uses fuzzy logic, Visual Basic and Applesoft Basic, hardly, you "might" be able to write applesoft basic, but I doubt even that... but still, I programmed in it, it counted as a real-world application 25 years ago, now it counts as an elementary school science fair project. Zork is old school, lexical analysis has come a long way since then, most high-school students could code Zork in their sleep, so it has near been relegated to "Dick and Jane" equivalent instruction for computers. I wouldn't count "Dick and Jane" books as reading material either, but they are great for kindergarteners before they grow up and need something more stimulating for growing intellect. obviously I know more in my industry than others, but for starters: MATLAB, Engineering CAD design, Lightwave, ModSAF, MPEG2/4 streamers, encoders or players, air-craft control or simulation (and before you jump in, fix your round-off/bit-loss problem at the top-end, you will not be allowed to crash air-craft to find out how "good" your software really is). you can also try visiting for ideas: http://www.gdconf.com/programming/index.htm[^]
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Well even if they aren't classified as "real-world applications" we might show a bit more of respect if your PEC could be demonstrated to do either one of these. E.g. yes we know VB & PE are both programming languages (I use the term loosly in this case) but while we've seen demos of what VB can do (both through videos and programs that can actually be downloaded and run) we have seen nothing, absolutely nothing from your compiler. You're thinking so abstractly that you've forgotten the one thing a compiler is meant to do, produce an executable (that runs).
I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.
Ed.Poore wrote:
produce an executable (that runs).
it produces itself, and an editor/IDE that makes emacs look cool. :rolleyes: it does rival vi & wordpad though. ;)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Well even if they aren't classified as "real-world applications" we might show a bit more of respect if your PEC could be demonstrated to do either one of these. E.g. yes we know VB & PE are both programming languages (I use the term loosly in this case) but while we've seen demos of what VB can do (both through videos and programs that can actually be downloaded and run) we have seen nothing, absolutely nothing from your compiler. You're thinking so abstractly that you've forgotten the one thing a compiler is meant to do, produce an executable (that runs).
I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.
Ed.Poore wrote:
You're thinking so abstractly that you've forgotten the one thing a compiler is meant to do, produce an executable (that runs).
But our compiler does exactly that. The current version - interface, text editor, compiler/linker, etc - was coded up in, and compiled with, the previous version. Then we used it to write the documentation, draw the pictures for our website, code the programs that process credit-card orders, produce the sample application, and a variety of other things. So it runs. Fast. And Reliably. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your statement?
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Ed.Poore wrote:
You're thinking so abstractly that you've forgotten the one thing a compiler is meant to do, produce an executable (that runs).
But our compiler does exactly that. The current version - interface, text editor, compiler/linker, etc - was coded up in, and compiled with, the previous version. Then we used it to write the documentation, draw the pictures for our website, code the programs that process credit-card orders, produce the sample application, and a variety of other things. So it runs. Fast. And Reliably. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your statement?
What my underlying meaning was, where's the proof? If people here had proof that it actually did something then they might warm up a bit. It needn't be useful either, we're geeks so it could just be something cool, they'd be more likely to take a look then.
I have no idea what I just said. But my intentions were sincere.
