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Because the people who run this website dont want any controversial opinions voiced, even in the "Unmoderated" soapbox.
Since this is a privately owned and operating environment, that is their choice and privilege.
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There seem to be a number of posts getting removed and some threads completely vanishing. Why is it that some are left with a "message removed" message with replies still there and others the entire thread seems to vanish?
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- We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.
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- We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
Shog9 wrote:
) We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.
At the time of this post, the top two Lounge items "advertised" at the top right on the home page are: "(2) Message Removed" and "(5) Message Removed / Deleted?". Oh, those annoying side-effects...
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There seem to be a number of posts getting removed and some threads completely vanishing. Why is it that some are left with a "message removed" message with replies still there and others the entire thread seems to vanish?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: 1 Terabyte Consumer Hard Drives Coming!
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Since this is a privately owned and operating environment, that is their choice and privilege.
I hope they're saved somewhere so we can get a "best of" DVD published. :-D
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It appears to be some kind of automatic censorship based on the number of Spam votes I think it's ridiculous. At least some of the posts don't deserve that. But looks like we have a mob of people voting down anything they don't like.
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Shog9 wrote:
) We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.
At the time of this post, the top two Lounge items "advertised" at the top right on the home page are: "(2) Message Removed" and "(5) Message Removed / Deleted?". Oh, those annoying side-effects...
Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...
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It appears to be some kind of automatic censorship based on the number of Spam votes I think it's ridiculous. At least some of the posts don't deserve that. But looks like we have a mob of people voting down anything they don't like.
dighn wrote:
I think it's ridiculous.
I agree. It seems to be that all it takes now is a couple of users with a hate-on against another user to prevent the user from posting anything at all. Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted. If it is only a certain group of users (ie protector status) that are deleting posts then fine, but if it is just any general user then I think the system is broken.
You may be right
I may be crazy
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Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...
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Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Ebonics would do...
Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007
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dighn wrote:
I think it's ridiculous.
I agree. It seems to be that all it takes now is a couple of users with a hate-on against another user to prevent the user from posting anything at all. Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted. If it is only a certain group of users (ie protector status) that are deleting posts then fine, but if it is just any general user then I think the system is broken.
You may be right
I may be crazy
-- Billy Joel --Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!
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Jörgen would want to translate the message to "Swedish Chef". Et zee teeme-a ooff thees pust, zee tup tvu Luoonge-a items "edferteesed" et zee tup reeght oon zee hume-a pege-a ere-a: "(2) Messege-a Remufed" und "(5) Messege-a Remufed / Deleted?". Ooh, thuse-a unnuyeeng seede-a-iffffects. Um gesh dee bork, bork!..
You may be right
I may be crazy
-- Billy Joel --Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!
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Jörgen would want to translate the message to "Swedish Chef". Et zee teeme-a ooff thees pust, zee tup tvu Luoonge-a items "edferteesed" et zee tup reeght oon zee hume-a pege-a ere-a: "(2) Messege-a Remufed" und "(5) Messege-a Remufed / Deleted?". Ooh, thuse-a unnuyeeng seede-a-iffffects. Um gesh dee bork, bork!..
You may be right
I may be crazy
-- Billy Joel --Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!
Jar Jar, is that you? :-D
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PJ Arends wrote:
Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted.
What's more, the post was a single-word joke. No spam, and nothing inappropriate. All I said was, "Here?".
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Ebonics would do...
Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult
Actually, the word "ebonics" is a common and acceptable term. I quote from the usage note under "Black English" at dictionary.com: "Linguists generally prefer the term African American Vernacular English, although some use the term Ebonics, which saw widespread use in the late 1990s."
Christopher Duncan wrote:
You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it.
At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult
Actually, the word "ebonics" is a common and acceptable term. I quote from the usage note under "Black English" at dictionary.com: "Linguists generally prefer the term African American Vernacular English, although some use the term Ebonics, which saw widespread use in the late 1990s."
Christopher Duncan wrote:
You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it.
At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?
The Grand Negus wrote:
At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?
You make an excellent point. Although I was thinking in terms of the general childishness that seems to have taken over here lately, I was also referring to you since I've seen you go out of your way to pick a fight on a number of occasions. With that in mind, you're absolutely right in pointing it out and I offer a sincere apology.
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I did not see your message, but if that is what it was then the system definitely needs changing.
You may be right
I may be crazy
-- Billy Joel --Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!
PJ Arends wrote:
I did not see your message, but if that is what it was then the system definitely needs changing.
Yeah, I just checked (if you try to modify a deleted message the system presents you with the original text in the edit box but won't let you re-post it). So all those automatically deleted messages are still in the database, apparently. Anyway, that's exactly what I said. I quoted the part of the above message about the "mob" and replied, "Here?".
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There seem to be a number of posts getting removed and some threads completely vanishing. Why is it that some are left with a "message removed" message with replies still there and others the entire thread seems to vanish?
Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: 1 Terabyte Consumer Hard Drives Coming!
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The Grand Negus wrote:
At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?
You make an excellent point. Although I was thinking in terms of the general childishness that seems to have taken over here lately, I was also referring to you since I've seen you go out of your way to pick a fight on a number of occasions. With that in mind, you're absolutely right in pointing it out and I offer a sincere apology.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Ebonics would do...
Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
I wasn't aware I was making a racial insult. :~ I was trying to make a joke at Negus's expense, although I did not intend to make it racially loaded in any way. It was the only unintelligible english "dialect"1 I could think of at the moment. :-O 1 Unintelligible to this foreigner in any case. :)