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  • R Rocky Moore

    There seem to be a number of posts getting removed and some threads completely vanishing. Why is it that some are left with a "message removed" message with replies still there and others the entire thread seems to vanish?

    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: 1 Terabyte Consumer Hard Drives Coming!

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    1. We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.

    ---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...

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      1. We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.

      ---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...

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      Shog9 wrote:

      ) We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.

      At the time of this post, the top two Lounge items "advertised" at the top right on the home page are: "(2) Message Removed" and "(5) Message Removed / Deleted?". Oh, those annoying side-effects...

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      • R Rocky Moore

        There seem to be a number of posts getting removed and some threads completely vanishing. Why is it that some are left with a "message removed" message with replies still there and others the entire thread seems to vanish?

        Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: 1 Terabyte Consumer Hard Drives Coming!

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        It appears to be some kind of automatic censorship based on the number of Spam votes I think it's ridiculous. At least some of the posts don't deserve that. But looks like we have a mob of people voting down anything they don't like.

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          Since this is a privately owned and operating environment, that is their choice and privilege.

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          I hope they're saved somewhere so we can get a "best of" DVD published. :-D


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          • D dighn

            It appears to be some kind of automatic censorship based on the number of Spam votes I think it's ridiculous. At least some of the posts don't deserve that. But looks like we have a mob of people voting down anything they don't like.

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            dighn wrote:

            looks like we have a mob of people voting down anything they don't like.

            Here?

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              Shog9 wrote:

              ) We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.

              At the time of this post, the top two Lounge items "advertised" at the top right on the home page are: "(2) Message Removed" and "(5) Message Removed / Deleted?". Oh, those annoying side-effects...

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              Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...

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              • D dighn

                It appears to be some kind of automatic censorship based on the number of Spam votes I think it's ridiculous. At least some of the posts don't deserve that. But looks like we have a mob of people voting down anything they don't like.

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                dighn wrote:

                I think it's ridiculous.

                I agree. It seems to be that all it takes now is a couple of users with a hate-on against another user to prevent the user from posting anything at all. Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted. If it is only a certain group of users (ie protector status) that are deleting posts then fine, but if it is just any general user then I think the system is broken.


                You may be right
                I may be crazy
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                Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...

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                  Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                  Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...

                  Sorry, I'm not up on my Ebonics. But if you go here[^] you can translate the CodeProject home page to "Redneck" or "Cockney" or a variety of other dialects.

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...

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                    Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                    Ebonics would do...

                    Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007

                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                      dighn wrote:

                      I think it's ridiculous.

                      I agree. It seems to be that all it takes now is a couple of users with a hate-on against another user to prevent the user from posting anything at all. Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted. If it is only a certain group of users (ie protector status) that are deleting posts then fine, but if it is just any general user then I think the system is broken.


                      You may be right
                      I may be crazy
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                      Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!

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                      PJ Arends wrote:

                      Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted.

                      What's more, the post was a single-word joke. No spam, and nothing inappropriate. All I said was, "Here?".

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                        Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                        Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...

                        Sorry, I'm not up on my Ebonics. But if you go here[^] you can translate the CodeProject home page to "Redneck" or "Cockney" or a variety of other dialects.

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                        Jörgen would want to translate the message to "Swedish Chef". Et zee teeme-a ooff thees pust, zee tup tvu Luoonge-a items "edferteesed" et zee tup reeght oon zee hume-a pege-a ere-a: "(2) Messege-a Remufed" und "(5) Messege-a Remufed / Deleted?". Ooh, thuse-a unnuyeeng seede-a-iffffects. Um gesh dee bork, bork!..


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                          Jörgen would want to translate the message to "Swedish Chef". Et zee teeme-a ooff thees pust, zee tup tvu Luoonge-a items "edferteesed" et zee tup reeght oon zee hume-a pege-a ere-a: "(2) Messege-a Remufed" und "(5) Messege-a Remufed / Deleted?". Ooh, thuse-a unnuyeeng seede-a-iffffects. Um gesh dee bork, bork!..


                          You may be right
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                          Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!

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                          Christopher Duncan
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                          Jar Jar, is that you? :-D

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                            PJ Arends wrote:

                            Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted.

                            What's more, the post was a single-word joke. No spam, and nothing inappropriate. All I said was, "Here?".

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                            I did not see your message, but if that is what it was then the system definitely needs changing.


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                              Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                              Ebonics would do...

                              Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007

                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult

                              Actually, the word "ebonics" is a common and acceptable term. I quote from the usage note under "Black English" at dictionary.com: "Linguists generally prefer the term African American Vernacular English, although some use the term Ebonics, which saw widespread use in the late 1990s."

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                              You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it.

                              At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?

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                              • R Rocky Moore

                                There seem to be a number of posts getting removed and some threads completely vanishing. Why is it that some are left with a "message removed" message with replies still there and others the entire thread seems to vanish?

                                Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: 1 Terabyte Consumer Hard Drives Coming!

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                                And what's with the odd spelling of In(n)appropriate? Is it an Aussie thing? I wouldn't be surprised - it wasn't until last week that I learned that maths is the short form of mathematics in other, more civilized parts of the world. Mike

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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult

                                  Actually, the word "ebonics" is a common and acceptable term. I quote from the usage note under "Black English" at dictionary.com: "Linguists generally prefer the term African American Vernacular English, although some use the term Ebonics, which saw widespread use in the late 1990s."

                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it.

                                  At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?

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                                  The Grand Negus wrote:

                                  At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?

                                  You make an excellent point. Although I was thinking in terms of the general childishness that seems to have taken over here lately, I was also referring to you since I've seen you go out of your way to pick a fight on a number of occasions. With that in mind, you're absolutely right in pointing it out and I offer a sincere apology.

                                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                                    I did not see your message, but if that is what it was then the system definitely needs changing.


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                                    PJ Arends wrote:

                                    I did not see your message, but if that is what it was then the system definitely needs changing.

                                    Yeah, I just checked (if you try to modify a deleted message the system presents you with the original text in the edit box but won't let you re-post it). So all those automatically deleted messages are still in the database, apparently. Anyway, that's exactly what I said. I quoted the part of the above message about the "mob" and replied, "Here?".

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                                      The Grand Negus wrote:

                                      At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?

                                      You make an excellent point. Although I was thinking in terms of the general childishness that seems to have taken over here lately, I was also referring to you since I've seen you go out of your way to pick a fight on a number of occasions. With that in mind, you're absolutely right in pointing it out and I offer a sincere apology.

                                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      With that in mind, you're absolutely right in pointing that out, and I offer a sincere apology.

                                      Accepted. Don't worry about it. But thanks.

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                                        Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                        Ebonics would do...

                                        Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007

                                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                                        I wasn't aware I was making a racial insult. :~ I was trying to make a joke at Negus's expense, although I did not intend to make it racially loaded in any way. It was the only unintelligible english "dialect"1 I could think of at the moment. :-O 1 Unintelligible to this foreigner in any case. :)

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                                          Jörgen would want to translate the message to "Swedish Chef". Et zee teeme-a ooff thees pust, zee tup tvu Luoonge-a items "edferteesed" et zee tup reeght oon zee hume-a pege-a ere-a: "(2) Messege-a Remufed" und "(5) Messege-a Remufed / Deleted?". Ooh, thuse-a unnuyeeng seede-a-iffffects. Um gesh dee bork, bork!..


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                                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                          I read you loud and clear! :-D

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