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It appears to be some kind of automatic censorship based on the number of Spam votes I think it's ridiculous. At least some of the posts don't deserve that. But looks like we have a mob of people voting down anything they don't like.
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Shog9 wrote:
) We're sick of trolls. And, 2) The forums are broken.
At the time of this post, the top two Lounge items "advertised" at the top right on the home page are: "(2) Message Removed" and "(5) Message Removed / Deleted?". Oh, those annoying side-effects...
Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...
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It appears to be some kind of automatic censorship based on the number of Spam votes I think it's ridiculous. At least some of the posts don't deserve that. But looks like we have a mob of people voting down anything they don't like.
dighn wrote:
I think it's ridiculous.
I agree. It seems to be that all it takes now is a couple of users with a hate-on against another user to prevent the user from posting anything at all. Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted. If it is only a certain group of users (ie protector status) that are deleting posts then fine, but if it is just any general user then I think the system is broken.
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Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...
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Could you please rephrase that in something other than plain english? Ebonics would do...
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Ebonics would do...
Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007
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dighn wrote:
I think it's ridiculous.
I agree. It seems to be that all it takes now is a couple of users with a hate-on against another user to prevent the user from posting anything at all. Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted. If it is only a certain group of users (ie protector status) that are deleting posts then fine, but if it is just any general user then I think the system is broken.
You may be right
I may be crazy
-- Billy Joel --Within you lies the power for good, use it!!!
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Jörgen would want to translate the message to "Swedish Chef". Et zee teeme-a ooff thees pust, zee tup tvu Luoonge-a items "edferteesed" et zee tup reeght oon zee hume-a pege-a ere-a: "(2) Messege-a Remufed" und "(5) Messege-a Remufed / Deleted?". Ooh, thuse-a unnuyeeng seede-a-iffffects. Um gesh dee bork, bork!..
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I may be crazy
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Jörgen would want to translate the message to "Swedish Chef". Et zee teeme-a ooff thees pust, zee tup tvu Luoonge-a items "edferteesed" et zee tup reeght oon zee hume-a pege-a ere-a: "(2) Messege-a Remufed" und "(5) Messege-a Remufed / Deleted?". Ooh, thuse-a unnuyeeng seede-a-iffffects. Um gesh dee bork, bork!..
You may be right
I may be crazy
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Jar Jar, is that you? :-D
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PJ Arends wrote:
Take the Negus's post here, it has only two votes and is already deleted.
What's more, the post was a single-word joke. No spam, and nothing inappropriate. All I said was, "Here?".
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Ebonics would do...
Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult
Actually, the word "ebonics" is a common and acceptable term. I quote from the usage note under "Black English" at dictionary.com: "Linguists generally prefer the term African American Vernacular English, although some use the term Ebonics, which saw widespread use in the late 1990s."
Christopher Duncan wrote:
You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it.
At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?
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There seem to be a number of posts getting removed and some threads completely vanishing. Why is it that some are left with a "message removed" message with replies still there and others the entire thread seems to vanish?
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult
Actually, the word "ebonics" is a common and acceptable term. I quote from the usage note under "Black English" at dictionary.com: "Linguists generally prefer the term African American Vernacular English, although some use the term Ebonics, which saw widespread use in the late 1990s."
Christopher Duncan wrote:
You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it.
At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?
The Grand Negus wrote:
At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?
You make an excellent point. Although I was thinking in terms of the general childishness that seems to have taken over here lately, I was also referring to you since I've seen you go out of your way to pick a fight on a number of occasions. With that in mind, you're absolutely right in pointing it out and I offer a sincere apology.
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I did not see your message, but if that is what it was then the system definitely needs changing.
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PJ Arends wrote:
I did not see your message, but if that is what it was then the system definitely needs changing.
Yeah, I just checked (if you try to modify a deleted message the system presents you with the original text in the edit box but won't let you re-post it). So all those automatically deleted messages are still in the database, apparently. Anyway, that's exactly what I said. I quoted the part of the above message about the "mob" and replied, "Here?".
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The Grand Negus wrote:
At what level is one functioning when he likens another to a "pig"?
You make an excellent point. Although I was thinking in terms of the general childishness that seems to have taken over here lately, I was also referring to you since I've seen you go out of your way to pick a fight on a number of occasions. With that in mind, you're absolutely right in pointing it out and I offer a sincere apology.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Ebonics would do...
Interesting. I thought only Americans used that particular racial insult. You shouldn't let people drag you down to their level, Joergen. You have more character than that. Your training is pointing you to higher ground. You should build a cabin there. The view is much better. ;) [edit] Or, as I once heard it put, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. It was pointed out to me, quite correctly as I see it, that likening someone to a pig isn't exactly taking the higher ground, either. So, I'll publicly strike that remark and offer an apology for it, as is appropriate. [/edit] -- modified at 18:28 Friday 5th January, 2007
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I wasn't aware I was making a racial insult. :~ I was trying to make a joke at Negus's expense, although I did not intend to make it racially loaded in any way. It was the only unintelligible english "dialect"1 I could think of at the moment. :-O 1 Unintelligible to this foreigner in any case. :)
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Jörgen would want to translate the message to "Swedish Chef". Et zee teeme-a ooff thees pust, zee tup tvu Luoonge-a items "edferteesed" et zee tup reeght oon zee hume-a pege-a ere-a: "(2) Messege-a Remufed" und "(5) Messege-a Remufed / Deleted?". Ooh, thuse-a unnuyeeng seede-a-iffffects. Um gesh dee bork, bork!..
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I may be crazy
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I read you loud and clear! :-D
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That's actaully pretty funny, you got my 5 on that one.
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I wasn't aware I was making a racial insult. :~ I was trying to make a joke at Negus's expense, although I did not intend to make it racially loaded in any way. It was the only unintelligible english "dialect"1 I could think of at the moment. :-O 1 Unintelligible to this foreigner in any case. :)
He pointed out to me below that it's a word in the dictionary, and that may be fine for the academic world. However, out here on the streets, where real people use the word, it is without a doubt done in a dismissive and insulting manner. Not being in America I figured you weren't aware of that, which is why I mentioned it. You don't strike me as the racist sort, so I was sure you wouldn't want to be perceived that way. As for the other stuff, with each day that you train it becomes ever more important to learn tolerance and self control, in all aspects of your life. As your skill to harm or kill other humans grows, you have an ever increasing responsibility to make sure that you are the master of your reactions in every waking moment of your day. It is a matter of honor - not only for yourself, but for the brothers and sisters in your art that you represent with every action you take in life. For good or for ill, people will look at how you treat others and think to themselves, "Oh, so that's what those karate guys are all about." Anger is a response. How it is expressed is a separate issue. If you train yourself to accept anger as an appropriate response, then some days it'll just be text on a web site. Other days, however, it may be a broken or permanently damaged person, and after it's all over and you realize that you weren't in control, it'll be too late. That's why it's critical to monitor and condition your reactions in all areas of your life, even when the consequences seem trivial. Feel free to print this post out, hand it to your Sensei, and publicly chastise me if he tells you that I have no idea what I'm talking about. It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. :) I hope you know that the only reason I'm giving you a hard time about the way you've been letting others get to you lately is due to the high regard I hold you in. I think you're pointing your life in a good direction, and wouldn't want to see you get side tracked. Your temper is far more dangerous to you than a guy on the street with a knife. Budo is a way of life, expressed in arts that have as their goal the refinement of the human spirit. In the process, you also do a little punching and kicking.
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I wasn't aware I was making a racial insult. :~ I was trying to make a joke at Negus's expense, although I did not intend to make it racially loaded in any way. It was the only unintelligible english "dialect"1 I could think of at the moment. :-O 1 Unintelligible to this foreigner in any case. :)
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I wasn't aware I was making a racial insult.
Ebonics got its bad rap, er reputation, when some grad student of Black Studies wrote his disseratation expounding on how it should be taught in schools just like proper English.
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He pointed out to me below that it's a word in the dictionary, and that may be fine for the academic world. However, out here on the streets, where real people use the word, it is without a doubt done in a dismissive and insulting manner. Not being in America I figured you weren't aware of that, which is why I mentioned it. You don't strike me as the racist sort, so I was sure you wouldn't want to be perceived that way. As for the other stuff, with each day that you train it becomes ever more important to learn tolerance and self control, in all aspects of your life. As your skill to harm or kill other humans grows, you have an ever increasing responsibility to make sure that you are the master of your reactions in every waking moment of your day. It is a matter of honor - not only for yourself, but for the brothers and sisters in your art that you represent with every action you take in life. For good or for ill, people will look at how you treat others and think to themselves, "Oh, so that's what those karate guys are all about." Anger is a response. How it is expressed is a separate issue. If you train yourself to accept anger as an appropriate response, then some days it'll just be text on a web site. Other days, however, it may be a broken or permanently damaged person, and after it's all over and you realize that you weren't in control, it'll be too late. That's why it's critical to monitor and condition your reactions in all areas of your life, even when the consequences seem trivial. Feel free to print this post out, hand it to your Sensei, and publicly chastise me if he tells you that I have no idea what I'm talking about. It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. :) I hope you know that the only reason I'm giving you a hard time about the way you've been letting others get to you lately is due to the high regard I hold you in. I think you're pointing your life in a good direction, and wouldn't want to see you get side tracked. Your temper is far more dangerous to you than a guy on the street with a knife. Budo is a way of life, expressed in arts that have as their goal the refinement of the human spirit. In the process, you also do a little punching and kicking.
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Well, I wasn't angry in this particular instance. I was just making a joke. As for my replies to Kyle (and his various alter egos), it's not really anger either. It's more an expression of "You're annoying, go away.". If I'm annoyed, I'll bite back. If I'm angry, I'm quite silent... until someone pushes me just a little bit more (which hasn't happened for almost 18 years now), at which point I'll explode. I didn't know that I've been perceived as angry. Maybe I'll tone down a little. :)
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