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  • C code frog 0

    Use this as your signature and your problems should get a lot better... After that becomes your signature just hang out here and act naturally. You know... Tell us why you think the Philadelphia Eagles deserve to win but why New England probably will. Tell us why you think the U.S. Government should use your plain english compiler and politicians should only be able to speak in assembler.


    -Signature- We've written a pretty cool, very high level language compiler with an IDE/interface that boasts a rich set of features. Our editor is simple and smooth and includes the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, multiple pages in different orientations, and it saves everything in ascii text. The interface is unique: it is modeless, and has none of the usual "tools"; nevertheless, it is easy to learn and very easy to use. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.


    -- modified at 2:22 Monday 8th January, 2007

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    code-frog wrote:

    Use this as your signature and your problems should get a lot better...

    I appreciate the help, really, but you keep suggesting that there was something wrong with my original post. The problem isn't with me, it's with the Spam Patrol and/or the algorithm that makes it so easy for a meaningful message to be quickly deleted. Besides, I've tried to get clarification from Maunder regarding exactly what it and is not allowed in a signature with very unsatisfactory results. There's a huge thread on the matter in the Suggestion box. Furthermore, I don't really understand this "signature" idea myself. It seems to me that it would make all of my posts - even those where I normally wouldn't mention Plain English - into free advertisements for the product (giving the Spam Patrol grounds for deleteing all of them). Really, why is it better to advertise "below the line" in every post, rather than mention only the elements of our product that are pertinent in only those posts where they apply?

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      Again! See this[^] thread. Here is the original conversation (in case it gets deleted, again, in General Discussions). CoffeeAddict19 wrote: I'm thinking about writing a simple 2D CAD drawing program. It won't have anything near the complexity of a commercial CAD program, essentially it'll be a sophisticated vector based clone of MS Paint. It dosen't need to be multiplatform (windows xp/2000/vista). My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET. The Grand Negus wrote: We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg, vector-based page editor that is part of the development system we wrote, resorting to GDI+ only for the conversion functions that are missing in the old GDI (JPEG to BITMAP, for example). Our editor is simple and smooth and includes the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, open and closed polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors) and pictures (which can be sized, cropped, rotated, mirrored, and flipped); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, multiple pages in different orientations, and it saves everything in ascii text. The interface is unique: it is modeless, and has none of the usual "tools"; nevertheless, it is easy to learn and very easy to use. I'd be glad to send you a copy, with source code, to give you some ideas - it's written in Plain English (about 4300 lines), but you can just think of it as pseudocode if you decide to write in another language. Interested? help@osmosian.com.

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      Abuse of the "report abuse" feature :-D


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        code-frog wrote:

        Use this as your signature and your problems should get a lot better...

        I appreciate the help, really, but you keep suggesting that there was something wrong with my original post. The problem isn't with me, it's with the Spam Patrol and/or the algorithm that makes it so easy for a meaningful message to be quickly deleted. Besides, I've tried to get clarification from Maunder regarding exactly what it and is not allowed in a signature with very unsatisfactory results. There's a huge thread on the matter in the Suggestion box. Furthermore, I don't really understand this "signature" idea myself. It seems to me that it would make all of my posts - even those where I normally wouldn't mention Plain English - into free advertisements for the product (giving the Spam Patrol grounds for deleteing all of them). Really, why is it better to advertise "below the line" in every post, rather than mention only the elements of our product that are pertinent in only those posts where they apply?

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        code frog 0
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        The Grand Negus wrote:

        but you keep suggesting that there was something wrong with my original post

        Actually I don't think there was. But you know how life can be. If your in the forest with bears try not to look or smell tasty. If you are in the water with sharks try not to bleed. If you are in the desert with lions don't show any weakness. If you are at CP don't show anything that might be slightly construed as "soliciting" or "advertising". It's nothing wrong with you presently. It's just that your past is now being used to judge your present. I mostly agree with everything you've said in most of your recent posts but I'm not normal. The people who come here often will tell you I'm not normal. My own mother doesn't think I'm normal. I don't mind your current angle/approach/vector but the sharks, bears and lions think you look like a nice meal.:omg:

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          Again! See this[^] thread. Here is the original conversation (in case it gets deleted, again, in General Discussions). CoffeeAddict19 wrote: I'm thinking about writing a simple 2D CAD drawing program. It won't have anything near the complexity of a commercial CAD program, essentially it'll be a sophisticated vector based clone of MS Paint. It dosen't need to be multiplatform (windows xp/2000/vista). My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET. The Grand Negus wrote: We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg, vector-based page editor that is part of the development system we wrote, resorting to GDI+ only for the conversion functions that are missing in the old GDI (JPEG to BITMAP, for example). Our editor is simple and smooth and includes the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, open and closed polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors) and pictures (which can be sized, cropped, rotated, mirrored, and flipped); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, multiple pages in different orientations, and it saves everything in ascii text. The interface is unique: it is modeless, and has none of the usual "tools"; nevertheless, it is easy to learn and very easy to use. I'd be glad to send you a copy, with source code, to give you some ideas - it's written in Plain English (about 4300 lines), but you can just think of it as pseudocode if you decide to write in another language. Interested? help@osmosian.com.

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          I would like to say that your post is NOT spam and for me its a very valid answer to original posters question, IF I forget about your image here as spammer and IF I dont know that you sell PEC. Your post might be marked as spam for the following two reasons that I can think of: 1. I have already told you, just because of your earlier posts. The image you have now is "spammer" and even if you utter plain english now in this forum, unfortunately it might be stamped as spam. 2. You are the seller (or will be having a subsequent monetory benifit) of the solution that you gave to original poster. Had it been a user of your product who doesnt have any monetory benifit from the solution, it might not have been marked as spam.

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            The Grand Negus wrote:

            but you keep suggesting that there was something wrong with my original post

            Actually I don't think there was. But you know how life can be. If your in the forest with bears try not to look or smell tasty. If you are in the water with sharks try not to bleed. If you are in the desert with lions don't show any weakness. If you are at CP don't show anything that might be slightly construed as "soliciting" or "advertising". It's nothing wrong with you presently. It's just that your past is now being used to judge your present. I mostly agree with everything you've said in most of your recent posts but I'm not normal. The people who come here often will tell you I'm not normal. My own mother doesn't think I'm normal. I don't mind your current angle/approach/vector but the sharks, bears and lions think you look like a nice meal.:omg:

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            code-frog wrote:

            If your in the forest with bears try not to look or smell tasty...

            I guess I thought the signature you suggested looked a great deal like a pic-a-nic basket (I hope you remember Yogi Bear)! :)

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              The Grand Negus wrote:

              but you keep suggesting that there was something wrong with my original post

              Actually I don't think there was. But you know how life can be. If your in the forest with bears try not to look or smell tasty. If you are in the water with sharks try not to bleed. If you are in the desert with lions don't show any weakness. If you are at CP don't show anything that might be slightly construed as "soliciting" or "advertising". It's nothing wrong with you presently. It's just that your past is now being used to judge your present. I mostly agree with everything you've said in most of your recent posts but I'm not normal. The people who come here often will tell you I'm not normal. My own mother doesn't think I'm normal. I don't mind your current angle/approach/vector but the sharks, bears and lions think you look like a nice meal.:omg:

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              code-frog wrote:

              My own mother doesn't think I'm normal. I don't mind your current angle/approach/vector but the sharks, bears and lions think you look like a nice meal.

              :laugh:


              If you think you can than you can, if you think you can't you are right.

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                Again! See this[^] thread. Here is the original conversation (in case it gets deleted, again, in General Discussions). CoffeeAddict19 wrote: I'm thinking about writing a simple 2D CAD drawing program. It won't have anything near the complexity of a commercial CAD program, essentially it'll be a sophisticated vector based clone of MS Paint. It dosen't need to be multiplatform (windows xp/2000/vista). My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET. The Grand Negus wrote: We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg, vector-based page editor that is part of the development system we wrote, resorting to GDI+ only for the conversion functions that are missing in the old GDI (JPEG to BITMAP, for example). Our editor is simple and smooth and includes the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, open and closed polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors) and pictures (which can be sized, cropped, rotated, mirrored, and flipped); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, multiple pages in different orientations, and it saves everything in ascii text. The interface is unique: it is modeless, and has none of the usual "tools"; nevertheless, it is easy to learn and very easy to use. I'd be glad to send you a copy, with source code, to give you some ideas - it's written in Plain English (about 4300 lines), but you can just think of it as pseudocode if you decide to write in another language. Interested? help@osmosian.com.

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                > We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg Dude... I am so tired of reading about "We" and the merits of your laughable "Plain English" langauge... Can you write a clone of something like Photoshop, SQL Server, or Windows itself in it? The answer is obvious. I have no idea why some visitors give you any benefit of doubt... You are either a freak, or a troll laughing his ass off at any fool that engages you (me now joining the ranks)... I would say, please take your religion elsewhere, however... what you are pushing could never qualify... what you have is a silly little idea that will never take hold because you cannot see the limitations... I don't mean to crush your hopes, but you seriously need to get back to reality.

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                  Again! See this[^] thread. Here is the original conversation (in case it gets deleted, again, in General Discussions). CoffeeAddict19 wrote: I'm thinking about writing a simple 2D CAD drawing program. It won't have anything near the complexity of a commercial CAD program, essentially it'll be a sophisticated vector based clone of MS Paint. It dosen't need to be multiplatform (windows xp/2000/vista). My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET. The Grand Negus wrote: We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg, vector-based page editor that is part of the development system we wrote, resorting to GDI+ only for the conversion functions that are missing in the old GDI (JPEG to BITMAP, for example). Our editor is simple and smooth and includes the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, open and closed polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors) and pictures (which can be sized, cropped, rotated, mirrored, and flipped); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, multiple pages in different orientations, and it saves everything in ascii text. The interface is unique: it is modeless, and has none of the usual "tools"; nevertheless, it is easy to learn and very easy to use. I'd be glad to send you a copy, with source code, to give you some ideas - it's written in Plain English (about 4300 lines), but you can just think of it as pseudocode if you decide to write in another language. Interested? help@osmosian.com.

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                  :zzz:

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                    Again! See this[^] thread. Here is the original conversation (in case it gets deleted, again, in General Discussions). CoffeeAddict19 wrote: I'm thinking about writing a simple 2D CAD drawing program. It won't have anything near the complexity of a commercial CAD program, essentially it'll be a sophisticated vector based clone of MS Paint. It dosen't need to be multiplatform (windows xp/2000/vista). My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET. The Grand Negus wrote: We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg, vector-based page editor that is part of the development system we wrote, resorting to GDI+ only for the conversion functions that are missing in the old GDI (JPEG to BITMAP, for example). Our editor is simple and smooth and includes the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, open and closed polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors) and pictures (which can be sized, cropped, rotated, mirrored, and flipped); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, multiple pages in different orientations, and it saves everything in ascii text. The interface is unique: it is modeless, and has none of the usual "tools"; nevertheless, it is easy to learn and very easy to use. I'd be glad to send you a copy, with source code, to give you some ideas - it's written in Plain English (about 4300 lines), but you can just think of it as pseudocode if you decide to write in another language. Interested? help@osmosian.com.

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                    Are you really that stupid (or arrogant)? :wtf:

                    The Grand Negus wrote:

                    My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET.

                    Maybe if you talked more about API/GUI then about your damn editor...


                    "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus

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                      > We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg Dude... I am so tired of reading about "We" and the merits of your laughable "Plain English" langauge... Can you write a clone of something like Photoshop, SQL Server, or Windows itself in it? The answer is obvious. I have no idea why some visitors give you any benefit of doubt... You are either a freak, or a troll laughing his ass off at any fool that engages you (me now joining the ranks)... I would say, please take your religion elsewhere, however... what you are pushing could never qualify... what you have is a silly little idea that will never take hold because you cannot see the limitations... I don't mean to crush your hopes, but you seriously need to get back to reality.

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                      chimera967 wrote:

                      Can you write a clone of something like Photoshop, SQL Server, or Windows itself in it?

                      Of course. The language is turing-complete and can call any function written in any other language. Programs similar to the ones you list could without a doubt be developed in Plain English. And why do we think so? Because we've already used Plain English to write a complete development and documentation system, including a unique interface, a handy file manager, an elegant text editor, a hexadecimal dumper, a wysiwyg page layout facility, and a self-contained compiler/linker that generates native-code executables for Windows. That, as any programmer should know, is not an insignificant program. The page editor alone is a noteworthy accomplishment - it includes support for the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, open and closed polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors) and pictures (which can be sized, cropped, rotated, mirrored, and flipped); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, and multiple pages in different orientations within a single document. And it can save the documents that are created with it in either ascii text format or as PDFs. (Incidently, the PDF code is entirely Plain English - we chose not to use any of Adobe's DLLs to keep the program self-contained.) Nor is the program clumsy or inefficient - the source is a readable 25,000 lines of Plain English sentences and the whole thing recompiles, in itself, in less than three seconds on a bottom-of-the-line Dell. The resulting executable is about 850 kilobytes. And let's not forget that the artwork for our website was drawn using this very same program; that the programs that process our credit card orders were written in Plain English; and that the program that gathers and reports statistics from our site is also a Plain English program. Seems real to us. Especially when someone visits our website, downloads the product, and then says something like, and I quote: "I am really enjoying my experience with the Plain English compiler. The programs look like well-documented code without the code." I love that one. "Well-documented code without the code." And yet such programs compile (quickly) and run (reliably). Sweet!

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                        Are you really that stupid (or arrogant)? :wtf:

                        The Grand Negus wrote:

                        My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET.

                        Maybe if you talked more about API/GUI then about your damn editor...


                        "Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus

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                        dnh wrote:

                        Maybe if you talked more about API/GUI then about your damn editor...

                        But I did. I said we used GDI and a bit of GDI+ (for bitmap conversions). What else is there to say on that topic? The questions I presumed would be in the original poster's mind at that point were things like, "And how did that work out for you?" and "Were you able to accomplish anything with that combination?" and "What language did you use to interface with those APIs?" and "Do you have a sample I could look at?" and "Are you willing to share your source code with me?" and "What if I have questions?" The rest of my post was designed to answer those questions.

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                          code-frog wrote:

                          Use this as your signature and your problems should get a lot better...

                          I appreciate the help, really, but you keep suggesting that there was something wrong with my original post. The problem isn't with me, it's with the Spam Patrol and/or the algorithm that makes it so easy for a meaningful message to be quickly deleted. Besides, I've tried to get clarification from Maunder regarding exactly what it and is not allowed in a signature with very unsatisfactory results. There's a huge thread on the matter in the Suggestion box. Furthermore, I don't really understand this "signature" idea myself. It seems to me that it would make all of my posts - even those where I normally wouldn't mention Plain English - into free advertisements for the product (giving the Spam Patrol grounds for deleteing all of them). Really, why is it better to advertise "below the line" in every post, rather than mention only the elements of our product that are pertinent in only those posts where they apply?

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                          The Grand Negus wrote:

                          even those where I normally wouldn't mention Plain English

                          :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Dont make me laugh.

                          --- How to get answers to your questions[^]

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                            Again! See this[^] thread. Here is the original conversation (in case it gets deleted, again, in General Discussions). CoffeeAddict19 wrote: I'm thinking about writing a simple 2D CAD drawing program. It won't have anything near the complexity of a commercial CAD program, essentially it'll be a sophisticated vector based clone of MS Paint. It dosen't need to be multiplatform (windows xp/2000/vista). My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET. The Grand Negus wrote: We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg, vector-based page editor that is part of the development system we wrote, resorting to GDI+ only for the conversion functions that are missing in the old GDI (JPEG to BITMAP, for example). Our editor is simple and smooth and includes the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, open and closed polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors) and pictures (which can be sized, cropped, rotated, mirrored, and flipped); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, multiple pages in different orientations, and it saves everything in ascii text. The interface is unique: it is modeless, and has none of the usual "tools"; nevertheless, it is easy to learn and very easy to use. I'd be glad to send you a copy, with source code, to give you some ideas - it's written in Plain English (about 4300 lines), but you can just think of it as pseudocode if you decide to write in another language. Interested? help@osmosian.com.

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                            Grand putz, (I call you this because you don’t have the courage to at least use your first name on the board) :suss: Anyway your constant crying about your complier has become the new CListCtrl. Either grow up get over it and stop whining or stop shoving it down everyone’s throat. I have always wanted to know (not that you will respond), but if your vaporware is so great why don’t you have a public message board on your site? If you really wanted a testament to how great it is create a site powered by your stuff. :| Otherwise quite crying geez… :zzz:


                            I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                              Grand putz, (I call you this because you don’t have the courage to at least use your first name on the board) :suss: Anyway your constant crying about your complier has become the new CListCtrl. Either grow up get over it and stop whining or stop shoving it down everyone’s throat. I have always wanted to know (not that you will respond), but if your vaporware is so great why don’t you have a public message board on your site? If you really wanted a testament to how great it is create a site powered by your stuff. :| Otherwise quite crying geez… :zzz:


                              I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                              S Douglas wrote:

                              Grand putz, (I call you this because you don’t have the courage to at least use your first name on the board)

                              My name is Gerry Rzeppa. I live at 1206 Hatter Road in Franklin, Kentucky, 42134. My phone number is 270-586-9864. I'm the founder of and Director of Research and Development for Relational Systems Corporation (www.era-sql.com) and have been for the past 26 years. I'm also, as you now know, the Grand Negus of the Osmosian Order of Plain English Programmers (www.osmosian.com).

                              S Douglas wrote:

                              Anyway your constant crying about your complier has become the new CListCtrl. Either grow up get over it and stop whining or stop shoving it down everyone’s throat.

                              A couple of examples here may help clear up the situation. An intermediate programmer, the other day, was looking for an more advanced project that would teach him good design and development techniques in C#. He posted in the General Discussions forum. I offered to lead him through a rewrite of our work, for free, in C#. The offer was deleted by the mob as spam. Today, I offered to share our page editor with another member who was looking to develop something very similar himself. Again, the offer was deleted. Had these perfectly reasonable, on-topic, and (I might say) generous offers been simply ignored by everyone but the original poster, there would have been no "whining" and "shoving" or lengthy threads re-hashing the issues. There would have been two and only posts, easily ignored (my title is displayed at the right of each post). Which brings us to...

                              S Douglas wrote:

                              I have always wanted to know (not that you will respond), but if your vaporware is so great why don’t you have a public message board on your site? If you really wanted a testament to how great it is create a site powered by your stuff.

                              First of all, it's not vaporware, and you shouldn't say that it is. That's nothing but libel. Secondly, we don't have a public forum on our site simply because we want to avoid the very things that happen here - we don't believe that "all men are created equal" and we therefore don't think that everyone should have an equal say on each and every topic. The discussions we have with our customers and others who are interested in our ideas are therefore conducted in an orderly fashion by direct email only. If you'd like to have such a conversation, wr

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                                S Douglas wrote:

                                Grand putz, (I call you this because you don’t have the courage to at least use your first name on the board)

                                My name is Gerry Rzeppa. I live at 1206 Hatter Road in Franklin, Kentucky, 42134. My phone number is 270-586-9864. I'm the founder of and Director of Research and Development for Relational Systems Corporation (www.era-sql.com) and have been for the past 26 years. I'm also, as you now know, the Grand Negus of the Osmosian Order of Plain English Programmers (www.osmosian.com).

                                S Douglas wrote:

                                Anyway your constant crying about your complier has become the new CListCtrl. Either grow up get over it and stop whining or stop shoving it down everyone’s throat.

                                A couple of examples here may help clear up the situation. An intermediate programmer, the other day, was looking for an more advanced project that would teach him good design and development techniques in C#. He posted in the General Discussions forum. I offered to lead him through a rewrite of our work, for free, in C#. The offer was deleted by the mob as spam. Today, I offered to share our page editor with another member who was looking to develop something very similar himself. Again, the offer was deleted. Had these perfectly reasonable, on-topic, and (I might say) generous offers been simply ignored by everyone but the original poster, there would have been no "whining" and "shoving" or lengthy threads re-hashing the issues. There would have been two and only posts, easily ignored (my title is displayed at the right of each post). Which brings us to...

                                S Douglas wrote:

                                I have always wanted to know (not that you will respond), but if your vaporware is so great why don’t you have a public message board on your site? If you really wanted a testament to how great it is create a site powered by your stuff.

                                First of all, it's not vaporware, and you shouldn't say that it is. That's nothing but libel. Secondly, we don't have a public forum on our site simply because we want to avoid the very things that happen here - we don't believe that "all men are created equal" and we therefore don't think that everyone should have an equal say on each and every topic. The discussions we have with our customers and others who are interested in our ideas are therefore conducted in an orderly fashion by direct email only. If you'd like to have such a conversation, wr

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                                Actually Gerry, I have seen PE in action and will with hold my opinion of it as I won’t get into pissing matches with people on the internet its just not worth my time. It's been said before many times but seriously, you would serve your cause much better by not shoving it down peoples throats every time you post.


                                I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                  Again! See this[^] thread. Here is the original conversation (in case it gets deleted, again, in General Discussions). CoffeeAddict19 wrote: I'm thinking about writing a simple 2D CAD drawing program. It won't have anything near the complexity of a commercial CAD program, essentially it'll be a sophisticated vector based clone of MS Paint. It dosen't need to be multiplatform (windows xp/2000/vista). My question is, which graphics API or GUI would you recommend? MFC/GDI+, Qt4, OpenGL, DirectX, SDL? The only thing I won't use is .NET. The Grand Negus wrote: We used straight GDI for the bulk of the wysiwyg, vector-based page editor that is part of the development system we wrote, resorting to GDI+ only for the conversion functions that are missing in the old GDI (JPEG to BITMAP, for example). Our editor is simple and smooth and includes the usual graphics objects (rectangles, ellipses, lines, open and closed polygons, etc), plus text (in different fonts, styles, and colors) and pictures (which can be sized, cropped, rotated, mirrored, and flipped); it also supports grouping of objects (to any depth), various units of measure, snap grids, reduction, enlargement, multiple pages in different orientations, and it saves everything in ascii text. The interface is unique: it is modeless, and has none of the usual "tools"; nevertheless, it is easy to learn and very easy to use. I'd be glad to send you a copy, with source code, to give you some ideas - it's written in Plain English (about 4300 lines), but you can just think of it as pseudocode if you decide to write in another language. Interested? help@osmosian.com.

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                                  You should rather teach people your skills of persistence! I would have given up a long time ago :p

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                                    Grand putz, (I call you this because you don’t have the courage to at least use your first name on the board)

                                    My name is Gerry Rzeppa. I live at 1206 Hatter Road in Franklin, Kentucky, 42134. My phone number is 270-586-9864. I'm the founder of and Director of Research and Development for Relational Systems Corporation (www.era-sql.com) and have been for the past 26 years. I'm also, as you now know, the Grand Negus of the Osmosian Order of Plain English Programmers (www.osmosian.com).

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                                    Anyway your constant crying about your complier has become the new CListCtrl. Either grow up get over it and stop whining or stop shoving it down everyone’s throat.

                                    A couple of examples here may help clear up the situation. An intermediate programmer, the other day, was looking for an more advanced project that would teach him good design and development techniques in C#. He posted in the General Discussions forum. I offered to lead him through a rewrite of our work, for free, in C#. The offer was deleted by the mob as spam. Today, I offered to share our page editor with another member who was looking to develop something very similar himself. Again, the offer was deleted. Had these perfectly reasonable, on-topic, and (I might say) generous offers been simply ignored by everyone but the original poster, there would have been no "whining" and "shoving" or lengthy threads re-hashing the issues. There would have been two and only posts, easily ignored (my title is displayed at the right of each post). Which brings us to...

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                                    I have always wanted to know (not that you will respond), but if your vaporware is so great why don’t you have a public message board on your site? If you really wanted a testament to how great it is create a site powered by your stuff.

                                    First of all, it's not vaporware, and you shouldn't say that it is. That's nothing but libel. Secondly, we don't have a public forum on our site simply because we want to avoid the very things that happen here - we don't believe that "all men are created equal" and we therefore don't think that everyone should have an equal say on each and every topic. The discussions we have with our customers and others who are interested in our ideas are therefore conducted in an orderly fashion by direct email only. If you'd like to have such a conversation, wr

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                                    The Grand Negus wrote:

                                    My name is Gerry Rzeppa. I live at 1206 Hatter Road in Franklin, Kentucky, 42134. My phone number is 270-586-9864. I'm the founder of and Director of Research and Development for Relational Systems Corporation (www.era-sql.com) and have been for the past 26 years. I'm also, as you now know, the Grand Negus of the Osmosian Order of Plain English Programmers (www.osmosian.com).

                                    I gave you a 5, just for the arrogance :-) You are not such a bad type after all, are you?

                                    Regards, Nish


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                                      Actually Gerry, I have seen PE in action and will with hold my opinion of it as I won’t get into pissing matches with people on the internet its just not worth my time. It's been said before many times but seriously, you would serve your cause much better by not shoving it down peoples throats every time you post.


                                      I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                      S Douglas wrote:

                                      It's been said before many times but seriously, you would serve your cause much better by not shoving it down peoples throats every time you post.

                                      He doesn't really shove it down anyone's throat (not recently anyway). But a lot of people don't like him here and so blindly vote him down. I'd say I am surprised that people are so obsessed with him that they go out of their way to track down his posts just so they can vote it down.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. (*Sample chapter available online*)

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                                        You should rather teach people your skills of persistence! I would have given up a long time ago :p

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                                        leppie wrote:

                                        You should rather teach people your skills of persistence! I would have given up a long time ago :p xacc.ide-0.2.0.57 - now with C# 2.0 parser and seamless VS2005 solution support!

                                        Thanks. But why are you - out of context - bringing up your xacc.ide product in a post addressed to me? :) I'm not jumping on you, really, though the signature does clutter the post and I have to read a bit of it (to make sure it's not part of your response to me) and then choose to either ignore or investigate it... Which sounds a great deal like "advertising" to me; that's exactly the effect advertisements have on people. If you've read these threads you know that others have suggested that I do the same kind of thing in a signature - but I just can't see how that isn't the very kind of "free advertising" and "spamming" that they object to. :confused:

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                                          Actually Gerry, I have seen PE in action and will with hold my opinion of it as I won’t get into pissing matches with people on the internet its just not worth my time. It's been said before many times but seriously, you would serve your cause much better by not shoving it down peoples throats every time you post.


                                          I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                                          S Douglas wrote:

                                          Actually Gerry, I have seen PE in action

                                          I guess I missed the part where you apologize for calling a product that you know exists "vaporware". And the part where you say, "Gee, I guess I was wrong about you not being willing to share your name." And the part where you say, "And I'm sorry for being wrong, a third time, for suggesting that you wouldn't explain why your website doesn't have a forum." Nevertheless, I am really curious about what kind of emotion makes a person go out of his way to attack the character of another whom he has never met face-to-face.

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