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    Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((


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    Vikram A Punathambekar
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    I know I'm tackling the symptom rather than the cause, but isn't it possible for the admin to release his lock on the file? PVCS has that feature. On a more related note... :wtf:

    Cheers, Vikram.


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      Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them.

      So, did you check them out using his login? If so, maybe that's what made him annoyed. If you are changing code owned by someone else, it'd have been more prudent to check them out as yourself so it's all logged correctly.

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      I checked them under my account and fully documented the changes and the reason for the change, and ran unit tests to confirm functionality. He is upset because I touched his code. Well, daaa you were out for two weeks, we couldn't wait for you get back. :rolleyes:


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        I know I'm tackling the symptom rather than the cause, but isn't it possible for the admin to release his lock on the file? PVCS has that feature. On a more related note... :wtf:

        Cheers, Vikram.


        "Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.

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        Colin Angus Mackay
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        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

        I know I'm tackling the symptom rather than the cause, but isn't it possible for the admin to release his lock on the file?

        Talking of source control, I've been waiting 40 minutes for VSS to complete whatever the heck it is doing. It is doing stuff, but it is just taking a long time. Talking about admin releases on locks. At the last place I worked I once went on holiday with a couple of files checked out by accident. On my retutn I was told that they had to have the admin release them and my changes were lost. I was also told that I had to pay a penalty. So, I had to buy donuts for everyone.


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          I know I'm tackling the symptom rather than the cause, but isn't it possible for the admin to release his lock on the file? PVCS has that feature. On a more related note... :wtf:

          Cheers, Vikram.


          "Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.

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          Totally possible but the admin and team lead isn't the most qualified to begin with. It took me weeks to convince him of the benefits tiered development and not writing all your code in the aspx page. :rolleyes:


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            Totally possible but the admin and team lead isn't the most qualified to begin with. It took me weeks to convince him of the benefits tiered development and not writing all your code in the aspx page. :rolleyes:


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            Vikram A Punathambekar
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            In that case, you have my condolences. :rose:

            Cheers, Vikram.


            "Life isn't fair, and the world is full of unscrupulous characters. There are things worth fighting for, killing for and dying for, but it's a really small list. Chalk it up to experience, let it go, and move on to the next positive experience in your life." - Christopher Duncan.

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            • N Not Active

              Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((


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              Ray Kinsella
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              Talk to him about Collective Code Ownership[^], it is one of the principles of Extreme Programming. Explain that the whole team owns the code and the improvements may not have been immediately obvious to anyone, but you discovered you needed them because of XYZ. Make sure he knows your changes weren't a poor reflection on him.

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                Totally possible but the admin and team lead isn't the most qualified to begin with. It took me weeks to convince him of the benefits tiered development and not writing all your code in the aspx page. :rolleyes:


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                Antony M Kancidrowski
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                Whoever it is doesn't seem to be a team player. IMO it is better to be without such people.

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                I'm coloured, yet clear.
                I'm fruity and sweet.
                I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
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                • N Not Active

                  Totally possible but the admin and team lead isn't the most qualified to begin with. It took me weeks to convince him of the benefits tiered development and not writing all your code in the aspx page. :rolleyes:


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                  Sorry about your luck. Perhaps a small bottle of single malt 10 year old in the bottom drawer would make the days pass better. :-D

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                    I checked them under my account and fully documented the changes and the reason for the change, and ran unit tests to confirm functionality. He is upset because I touched his code. Well, daaa you were out for two weeks, we couldn't wait for you get back. :rolleyes:


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                    Does Project management stand behind "Noone singly owns a certian piece of code, we all do"? if yes: get that guy educated if no: think if you can accept such a policy. If not, find something better. The market isn't bad enough to make you put up with this.


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                    • N Not Active

                      Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((


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                      Mark Nischalke wrote:

                      Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them.

                      this is unacceptable in a professional work environment. you should resolve this with the help of your boss or your team leader; have him arrange a meeting with both of you, and discuss this. If that behaviour continues, the boss and/or team leader should fire that programmer.


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                        Mark Nischalke wrote:

                        Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them.

                        this is unacceptable in a professional work environment. you should resolve this with the help of your boss or your team leader; have him arrange a meeting with both of you, and discuss this. If that behaviour continues, the boss and/or team leader should fire that programmer.


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                        Ray Kinsella
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                        Maximilien wrote:

                        ou should resolve this with the help of your boss or your team leader

                        You may want to warn him first, give him a chance to come around alone.

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                          Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((


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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          I take it that he is not a CPian or he does not check the lounge.

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            I take it that he is not a CPian or he does not check the lounge.

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                            Ray Kinsella
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                            Mustn't be, why is no-one suggesting violence as an answer ... and/or alcohol or course ... :-D

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                              Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((


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                              Demote him to making coffee.

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                                Demote him to making coffee.

                                Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                                Demote him to a mission critical role?!?!? Are you mad!

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                  Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((


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                                  ednrgc
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                                  Have him fired. No "team" needs clowns like that.

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                                    Demote him to a mission critical role?!?!? Are you mad!

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    As if I would trust the recipe for the Sacred Swill™ to any of my coworkers :rolleyes:.


                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      As if I would trust the recipe for the Sacred Swill™ to any of my coworkers :rolleyes:.


                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      "It's all in the grind, all in the grind."

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                        Demote him to a mission critical role?!?!? Are you mad!

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                        WillemM
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                                        Too much coffee I see ;P

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                                          Have him fired. No "team" needs clowns like that.

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                                          charlieg
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                                          concur. Sounds like someone is forgetting who actually owns the code. Now, if you busted it, then that's another matter :). But sounds like to me a tantrum. If *I* were the project manager, we would have a "we don't seem to be communicating" meeting...

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