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Totally possible but the admin and team lead isn't the most qualified to begin with. It took me weeks to convince him of the benefits tiered development and not writing all your code in the aspx page. :rolleyes:
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Whoever it is doesn't seem to be a team player. IMO it is better to be without such people.
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Totally possible but the admin and team lead isn't the most qualified to begin with. It took me weeks to convince him of the benefits tiered development and not writing all your code in the aspx page. :rolleyes:
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I checked them under my account and fully documented the changes and the reason for the change, and ran unit tests to confirm functionality. He is upset because I touched his code. Well, daaa you were out for two weeks, we couldn't wait for you get back. :rolleyes:
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Does Project management stand behind "Noone singly owns a certian piece of code, we all do"? if yes: get that guy educated if no: think if you can accept such a policy. If not, find something better. The market isn't bad enough to make you put up with this.
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Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((
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Mark Nischalke wrote:
Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them.
this is unacceptable in a professional work environment. you should resolve this with the help of your boss or your team leader; have him arrange a meeting with both of you, and discuss this. If that behaviour continues, the boss and/or team leader should fire that programmer.
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Mark Nischalke wrote:
Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them.
this is unacceptable in a professional work environment. you should resolve this with the help of your boss or your team leader; have him arrange a meeting with both of you, and discuss this. If that behaviour continues, the boss and/or team leader should fire that programmer.
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Maximilien wrote:
ou should resolve this with the help of your boss or your team leader
You may want to warn him first, give him a chance to come around alone.
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Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((
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I take it that he is not a CPian or he does not check the lounge.
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I take it that he is not a CPian or he does not check the lounge.
Mustn't be, why is no-one suggesting violence as an answer ... and/or alcohol or course ... :-D
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Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((
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Demote him to making coffee.
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Demote him to a mission critical role?!?!? Are you mad!
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Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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Sorry bit of a rant. While one of the developers on the team was out for two weeks I had to modify his code, make some improvements I had talked to him about earlier and he never understood or thought it was necessry. Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them. :sigh: :((
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Demote him to a mission critical role?!?!? Are you mad!
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
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I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
As if I would trust the recipe for the Sacred Swill™ to any of my coworkers :rolleyes:.
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As if I would trust the recipe for the Sacred Swill™ to any of my coworkers :rolleyes:.
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delete this;"It's all in the grind, all in the grind."
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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Demote him to a mission critical role?!?!? Are you mad!
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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concur. Sounds like someone is forgetting who actually owns the code. Now, if you busted it, then that's another matter :). But sounds like to me a tantrum. If *I* were the project manager, we would have a "we don't seem to be communicating" meeting...
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Mark Nischalke wrote:
Now that he is back to work he is upset because I did it and now refuses to check the files in to VSS so no one can modify them.
this is unacceptable in a professional work environment. you should resolve this with the help of your boss or your team leader; have him arrange a meeting with both of you, and discuss this. If that behaviour continues, the boss and/or team leader should fire that programmer.
Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad
See above, the team lead isn't really up on modern development practices himself. Myself and the PM have tried to educate them but there is resistance, especially with things they don't understand. Even after showing the samples and articles. I'm sure it has something to do with job security and feeling threaten by newer techniques (and people) But the good news is I'm just a consultant, I don't have to stay after the project is finished.
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concur. Sounds like someone is forgetting who actually owns the code. Now, if you busted it, then that's another matter :). But sounds like to me a tantrum. If *I* were the project manager, we would have a "we don't seem to be communicating" meeting...
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As a PM, I don't deal with these issues lightheartly. It is the one thing that can drive a steak through the heart of a team. That person will usually be given some of the worst assignments for a while to make sure he/she appreciates the peaceful/pleasurable environment I like to keep.
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See above, the team lead isn't really up on modern development practices himself. Myself and the PM have tried to educate them but there is resistance, especially with things they don't understand. Even after showing the samples and articles. I'm sure it has something to do with job security and feeling threaten by newer techniques (and people) But the good news is I'm just a consultant, I don't have to stay after the project is finished.
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Mark Nischalke wrote:
See above, the team lead isn't really up on modern development practices himself.
It's not modern practices !!! That developer is sabotaging your environment by preventing other developers to work on some source files.
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As a PM, I don't deal with these issues lightheartly. It is the one thing that can drive a steak through the heart of a team. That person will usually be given some of the worst assignments for a while to make sure he/she appreciates the peaceful/pleasurable environment I like to keep.
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As a PM, I don't deal with these issues lightheartly. It is the one thing that can drive a steak through the heart of a team. That person will usually be given some of the worst assignments for a while to make sure he/she appreciates the peaceful/pleasurable environment I like to keep.
ednrgc wrote:
given some of the worst assignments
But VB coding would be considered cruel and unusual punishment in some places ;P
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
I know I'm tackling the symptom rather than the cause, but isn't it possible for the admin to release his lock on the file?
Talking of source control, I've been waiting 40 minutes for VSS to complete whatever the heck it is doing. It is doing stuff, but it is just taking a long time. Talking about admin releases on locks. At the last place I worked I once went on holiday with a couple of files checked out by accident. On my retutn I was told that they had to have the admin release them and my changes were lost. I was also told that I had to pay a penalty. So, I had to buy donuts for everyone.
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1. Get Vault or another source control tool. Almost anything is better than VSS. 2. Use your better source control tool in edit/merge/commit mode (if you have a choice of modes). No exclusive locks = faster working, no danger of losing changes. Note that even if you took an exclusive lock and it was released by an administrator, Vault remembers which version you were basing your changes on and tells you you need to perform a merge. It doesn't overwrite your changes unless you tell it to, and even if it does it makes a backup copy of the files. You can't check in until you resolve the merge status.
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